JStein0222
Member
Maybe the number of characters is being revealed because the 3DS game comes out the same day as the E3 Direct 
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
- Start date
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
It's a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff edit. It's suppose to be nonsensical, poorly drawn and slightly disturbing.
- Took 3 pics, but none straight. Clearly doesn't want us to see the big picture.
- Suddenly 2 new characters are unlocked in the third shot for no reason whatsoever.
- Ridley being in, yet he doesn't show the picture itself but only the Y, because he has no freakin' original render to put there. It'd be spotted immediately as a fake if he showed a custom model or an old one.
I feel like the 3's pictures would be a shot of the entire screen if they were real. A leaker would want to show off as much as he could, not 3 weird angled shots. The specific cropping and all that just feels like how you'd crop it if it was a hoax. It doesn't really look like its cell photos off a tv like it's leading you to believe. I also don't think Sakurai would design such a boring character select menu that's just all metallic gray.
The shot from the super side view doesn't look like how flat screens look at an angle. It looks like photoshop skewing and re-aliasing pixels.
The shot from the super side view doesn't look like how flat screens look at an angle. It looks like photoshop skewing and re-aliasing pixels.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
They should be wrapping up development on the 3DS version right around now, no? In that case, they would probably know the final character count.
Of course, that doesn't mean they're ready to announce the character count.
Here we go again.
Team FakeButIWantToBelieve
ShockingAlberto
Member
I think the reason they take awkward angles is because they don't want to reveal too much of the context and make it obvious it's fake
Like, if it's a macbook monitor and not a TV screen, the immediate thought is probably a photoshop.
Like, if it's a macbook monitor and not a TV screen, the immediate thought is probably a photoshop.
I think it obscures any blemishes that would deem it fake.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
#Team
Red Arremer
Member
I attempted to assign characters to the empty fields (including the ones from the third shot except taking that Y-dude into account, though I did consider it).
No cuts from Brawl's roster except for 1 Pokémon (Squirtle or Ivysaur, though Mewtwo might also be a candidate to return). I also added very likely newcomers to this. If we consider 1 spot for Random (probably the bottom right), there would be 3 more characters to be added to this roster.
EDIT: I forgot adding Falcon. Apologies. Would put him next to the Space Animals. So 2 more characters.
This roster would be 50 characters, 51 if there's no Random window.
No cuts from Brawl's roster except for 1 Pokémon (Squirtle or Ivysaur, though Mewtwo might also be a candidate to return). I also added very likely newcomers to this. If we consider 1 spot for Random (probably the bottom right), there would be 3 more characters to be added to this roster.
EDIT: I forgot adding Falcon. Apologies. Would put him next to the Space Animals. So 2 more characters.
This roster would be 50 characters, 51 if there's no Random window.
Hyperactivity
Banned
HOLY SHIT THAT COMEBACK
Wow
EDIT: Hope to god actual UI doesn't show locks, that would be horrid
Wow
EDIT: Hope to god actual UI doesn't show locks, that would be horrid
Well, the good thing is, unlike most fake leaks, we'll actually learn the truth within a couple weeks
That's not soon enough.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Well, the good thing is, unlike most fake leaks, we'll actually learn the truth within a couple weeks
Yussssssssssssss.
The thing I've really been waiting for is the 3DS version's box art. That's how I'll know that the wait is almost over.
He was feelin himself so hard lol
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Also, can I just state right now that I hate seeing rosters with the franchises grouped horizontally? It just looks so messy, confusing and disorganized. For all the shit Brawl fucked up, it at least got one thing right by grouping everyone vertically.
From left to right:
1. Mario
2. Mario Spinoffs
3. Zelda
4. Misc. NES-era characters
5. Kirby (plus Olimar, because we can't fit him anywhere else)
6. Star Fox (plus Capt. Falcon, because Star Fox and F-Zero are linked in some interesting ways.)
7. Pokeymans
8. Fire Emblem and Mother (linked by the fact that both franchises have had a hell of a time trying to get out of Japan)
9. 3rd Party characters (plus Mr. G&W and the random button because we can't fit them anywhere else.
From left to right:
1. Mario
2. Mario Spinoffs
3. Zelda
4. Misc. NES-era characters
5. Kirby (plus Olimar, because we can't fit him anywhere else)
6. Star Fox (plus Capt. Falcon, because Star Fox and F-Zero are linked in some interesting ways.)
7. Pokeymans
8. Fire Emblem and Mother (linked by the fact that both franchises have had a hell of a time trying to get out of Japan)
9. 3rd Party characters (plus Mr. G&W and the random button because we can't fit them anywhere else.
Red Arremer
Member
I agree, I feel vertical series ordering is superior.
Immaculate
Banned
I agree. I have no clue why everyone wants a horizontal character select screen.
BassForever
Member
Cause Brawl is the only game that did that and we hate Brawl obviously
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
'Cause no one wants to put the effort in trying to group everyone into neat 5-block columns, so horizontal grouping allows for more room to say "fuck it, put him/her/it wherever."
Personally, I'm pretty confident that both Mewtwo and Jigglypuff will return, which gives us six Pokemon characters. There's not really any way to elegantly place characters in columns of six, so it's either horizontal or the Pokemon are broken up. Horizontal looks a lot better on that condition.
I agree that vertical looks better, but the characters preclude the shape of the select screen.
I agree that vertical looks better, but the characters preclude the shape of the select screen.
Subtervotion
Member
You're forgetting a FE:A character. Move Olimar between ICs? and Little Mac.
solomon
Member
Well, the good thing is, unlike most fake leaks, we'll actually learn the truth within a couple weeks
Yep, I'm gunna skip classes and spend the whole day on gaf and watching nintendo/Bum1six3's (fgc streamer/old school smash player) streams.
JStein0222
Member
I already miss the PotD
Red Arremer
Member
DisconnectD
Member
Not sure about that after Ike's return. Doesn't really matter, either.
There is literally no valid reason that F.E. can't or shouldn't have 3 reps at this juncture.
solomon
Member
I have a feeling they will get three and wolf will be cut.
theprodigy
Member
Not sure about that after Ike's return. Doesn't really matter, either.
You're crazy if you think there won't be a 3rd Fire Emblem rep.
I don't think it would copy Brawl's layout exactly, but it would have to be one of two ways. It's not like there are many options, unless they decide to throw out any order to it at all, lol. It'll either have franchises grouped primarily horizontally like Melee, or primarily vertically like Brawl. The original Super Smash Bros. didn't really have enough franchises with multiple characters to even have a specific layout like either of those, but the Mario series and Pokémon series are grouped horizontally there, too.
why would wolf be cut?
Amen! I prefer the vertical grouping Brawl did and I'm really hoping Smash 4 does vertical grouping. All the rosters I've made feature vertical grouping~
Kor of Memory
Member
I agree, though I like a little flavor as well. That's why my roster mock up was placed as it was.
I tried to put main characters on the topmost and bottommost rows and work from there.
DisconnectD
Member
I have a feeling that wolf and ike will both be cut.
solomon
Member
Wolf,lucas and Ike were on my out list, after the ike reveal i'm not sure anymore but I still have a feeling wolf and lucas might get the boot.
Well duh, because of relevancy.
I mean it's not like we're getting total nobodies like Shiek and especially not clones like Ike in this version of Smash.
DisconnectD
Member
Nah, I don't think Wolf is going anywhere. He is the most unique star fox rep and it seems like they put a lot of work into differentiating him from the others with his feral A moves.
Also staying points added by virtue of being a villain, which smash is in short supply of.
Subtervotion
Member
Not sure about that after Ike's return. Doesn't really matter, either.
Yeah but before Ike was announced, virtually everyone was saying 'Chrom is taking Ike's spot'. I fully expect a FE:A character. It's popular and recent without being too new.
DisconnectD
Member
Plus: the pair up mechanics seem ripe for the picking as part of a moveset or final smash.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
50 characters still sounds too high to me, but I guess if there are going to be minimal cuts plus a decent amount of newcomers it is going to have to be around 48-50.
Solid Samus
Banned
I'm still thinking Chrom/Lucina (Climbers) is gonna happen with the Fire Emblem down special Counter also spoofing the pair mechanic and switching which character you control
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I have a feeling that many people in this thread would be surprised.
Olimar goes with kirby because they're both only a few inches tall. It's the "really tiny people" column.
Star Fox/Falcon are both known for outer-space (and like you mentioned, james mccloud)
Also, I came to this thread today about to ask if anyone had spotted some fake leaks lately. Not disappointed, thank you guys!
That said, ahahahahahha they're not real. He won't reveal roster SIZE at E3. It'll be like the brawl demo, as many pointed out.
MrSaturn99
Member
I have a feeling Lucas will be back.
Can't see why not. I think Veterans are easier for them to bring back, and Lucas is just a few tweaks away from Ness. Shouldn't be that hard to bring him back.