If he was just a hazard why spend all this time teasing him and not showing him off? He also never explicitly said Ridley, even though the location would seem to hint it. If anything it just fans the flames for inclusion.
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Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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If he was just a hazard why spend all this time teasing him and not showing him off? He also never explicitly said Ridley, even though the location would seem to hint it. If anything it just fans the flames for inclusion.
There's a lot of things he's teased without actually showing off. This is Sakurai.
At face value that quote absolutely implied that Ridley is a stage hazard. An enemy from Samus' past, appearing in the Pyrosphere? There is literally no other character that could refer to except Ridley. But again, this is Sakurai, so that itself could easily be a troll.
What do you think the safest bet unannounced characters are?
User 73706
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I could live with Diddy getting cut.
My pipe dream characters are a Metroid Prime: Hunters rep and Skyward Sword-styled Impa.
EDIT: I doubt Ridley will get character treatment considering the Prime canon alone has at least 9 potential reps with more humanoid silhouettes that would be better suited for a fighter. Kanden, Weavel, Noxus, Spire, Trace, Sylux, Ghor, Gandrayda, and Rundas.
My pipe dream characters are a Metroid Prime: Hunters rep and Skyward Sword-styled Impa.
EDIT: I doubt Ridley will get character treatment considering the Prime canon alone has at least 9 potential reps with more humanoid silhouettes that would be better suited for a fighter. Kanden, Weavel, Noxus, Spire, Trace, Sylux, Ghor, Gandrayda, and Rundas.
At face value it just teases Ridley's presences somewhere, it doesn't say anything about when or where. He might not show up at all.
He used the term "Samus' trauma" on the original Japanese Miiverse post, which is Ridley's official nickname in Japan.
theprodigy
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shh, let them hold their delusion for just a little longer....
Red Arremer
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It might've not directly meant a stage hazard. If Ridley is playable, he too can show up on that stage at any moment.
Or perhaps he used that term specifically because it also is used for Ridley, but can also mean something else.
I'm very sure that Sakurai is aware of Ridley's popularity and importance to the series he belongs to.
About the same as having Goku be a playable character in Smash.
A little of both. Everyone's pretty much felt good about Kid Icarus getting a newbie, Fire Emblem Awakening making a good case for a new character/Sakurai trying to bring everyone from Brawl (at least) back/Fire Emblem riding an even bigger popularity wave now than before thanks to Awakening, and Takamaru because of Sakurai's comments from as far back as Melee/the new and sudden introduction of Mysterious Murasame Castle elements in recent games/a potential Virtual Console reintroduction if that Australian patent means anything.
To not get Palutena would suck since she's the other half of the best duo Nintendo's "created" in a long time. To not have Takamaru would suck because of what he'd bring to the roster as a character and bit of under utilized Nintendo history. Anna's really the weakest of my current main trio
when I stop believing in Mike anyway
Which is about as subtle as "an enemy from Samus's past" in the Pyrosphere anyway. If he's playable, he could show up at any moment. If he's not playable, the arena looks like he's been having some fun in it regardless of if he's a hazard or not. If he's a boss, you'd probably be fighting him there.
Nothing he's said has dismissed or really even bolstered the possibility of Ridley appearing.
I don't think its THAT low, I mean Nintendo does own the IP after all.
I'd also like to point out that Toon Link (who also has multiple incarnations) is also a stage element.
We all know how static and consistent Ridley's design and physique are. It would be horrendously confusing.
If you have 20/200 vision.
I mean each person would have their own 3ds and screens. Still would probably be easier to have all the icons laid out though.
Red Arremer
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You know, that is probably the most compelling argument against the Pyrosphere argument there is.
Perhaps the stage hazard Ridley is Meta or Mecha Ridley, or Other M Ridley, and we'll get regular Ridley as playable (if we do get him).
Other M Ridley is explicitly a clone of Super Metroid Ridley, so it's possible.
If he weren't too big, that is. lol.
Thinking about it, Dixie would be really cool in terms of how her moves can potentially animate. I came up with something that has almost all moves using her hair.
Dixie Movset
Neutral Special - Bubblegum Gun
Up-Special - Hair Helicopter
Down-Special - Use her hair to pound the ground kinda like DK
Side-Special - Something like Pit's Brawl Side-Special (hyahyahyahyah thing) with her hair
Grab - Use hair to grab someone; can grab ledges
Up-Smash - Whip hair in a semi-circular motion upwards
Side-Smash - Whip hair side ways
Down-Smash - Hair sweeps the ground on both sides as she spins (pretty much like any other character's Down-Smash)
Neutral-Air - Something like Sonic's Neutral-Air where he spins in the air
Side-Air - Whip hair forward
Back-Air - Whip hair backward
Up-Air - Whip hair upward
Down-Air - Whip hair downward for a meteor smash
Dixie Movset
Neutral Special - Bubblegum Gun
Up-Special - Hair Helicopter
Down-Special - Use her hair to pound the ground kinda like DK
Side-Special - Something like Pit's Brawl Side-Special (hyahyahyahyah thing) with her hair
Grab - Use hair to grab someone; can grab ledges
Up-Smash - Whip hair in a semi-circular motion upwards
Side-Smash - Whip hair side ways
Down-Smash - Hair sweeps the ground on both sides as she spins (pretty much like any other character's Down-Smash)
Neutral-Air - Something like Sonic's Neutral-Air where he spins in the air
Side-Air - Whip hair forward
Back-Air - Whip hair backward
Up-Air - Whip hair upward
Down-Air - Whip hair downward for a meteor smash
I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few of them change, but we know Samus has the same one from Smash Bros. Brawl, so others will likely keep the old ones they had too.
User 73706
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Zero Mission Ridley has to be my favorite, I just wish he was purple.
Masked Man
I said wow
The characters in KI: Uprising are so vibrant and wonderful that I would gladly welcome two or three new characters from that universe because they're just that fun. I was really hoping for Viridi, but it sounds like she's been relegated to background noise in the KI stage, so I'm happy to settle with Palutena. 
Yeah, he said that "Samus' trauma [Ridley] may appear as well...", but he phrased it such that it was unclear whether he would appear as part of the stage or as a character. (The possibility also exists that Ridley might not show up at all.) Nevertheless, Sakurai knows how to get the fans going.
Yeah, he said that "Samus' trauma [Ridley] may appear as well...", but he phrased it such that it was unclear whether he would appear as part of the stage or as a character. (The possibility also exists that Ridley might not show up at all.) Nevertheless, Sakurai knows how to get the fans going.
Red Arremer
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I actually used that sprite as a base for my (very basic and badly done) re-color mock-up:
Green Mamba
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I really feel blatantly hinting at a newcomer like that is so unlike Sakurai that I really, really doubt he's playable.
I usually think of ZM Ridley when imagining him as a fighter.
The Prime 3 versions are my favorite ones, but part of the appeal is how (realistically) massive the wingspan is, and they couldn't keep them the same length if he was playable.
The characters in KI: Uprising are so vibrant and wonderful that I would gladly welcome two or three new characters from that universe because they're just that fun. I was really hoping for Viridi, but it sounds like she's been relegated to background noise in the KI stage, so I'm happy to settle with Palutena.
The only real criticism I can leverage against Uprising's cast is really in how much they diminished Medusa's character for the sake of building up Hades. I'm not a big fan of it even if Hades is hilarious. It's also another reason why whenever people talked about KI getting 2 more reps I wanted Medusa in over everyone else after Palutena. You get the original trio and Medusa has a "second chance" to get Uprising tier characterization.
Imagine if she was a spiteful actress and would constantly have "codecs" where she'd just rag of other Kid Icarus characters because she was bitter about how she didn't get any good lines/scenes in Uprising?
User 73706
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What would Ridley's newcomer splash description even be? Y'know, like how WFT's is "Weighs in."
"RIDLEY joins the big leagues!"
"RIDLEY joins the big leagues!"
I'm pretty much banking on this anyway.
though ridley's got a much better chance than anyone from KI:U
I think some of them need a change like Mario and Fox.
Red Arremer
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"Ridley swoops into battle", or perhaps "Ridley is ready to get some of that space booty".
That is if it's not just Wii Fit Trainer and Wario getting alt.
MrSaturn99
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ridley won't be in
peaceee
peaceee
Red Arremer
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Honestly, at this rate, I really have no idea what to think about Sakurai. On one hand, I kind of agree with what you say, but on the other hand, I'm sure he is well aware of the popularity of the character, so an ambiguous statement like that can be taken either way, really.
He loves to throw curveballs - when the Wii Fit Trainer footage was first shown after the E3 Direct, the first comment was "You didn't see that coming, huh?".
theprodigy
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you are joking right
Lord_Byron28
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Palutena has been in 3 games not just Uprising and much like Legend of Zelda, Palutena is in the name of the series in Japan. I'm not sure why people are so skeptical I'd say she's one of the sure fire bets.
Ridley sizes up the battle!
Dead serious, but you're not going to see any of them playable anyway~
Palutena wasn't much of a character before Uprising (just like everyone else from KI). She's not really much of a character after, either.
ArchedThunder
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The skepticism only comes from super paranoia or people that feel that Sakurai would reign in nepotism for the sake of some moral code he has. Yet even after saying this, I hesitate from ever making absolute calls about a Smash roster unless you're one of the four big Mario characters (with Rosalina potentially being a permanent fixture too) or a Smash 64 veteran.
Edit: Furthermore, I think people kinda forget the EXTENSIVE amount of shit Nintendo/Sora got out there to promote Palutena (as well as Pit/the Kid Icarus franchise).
I'd say in that one game she's shown more character then the cast of the Legend of Zelda over the entire Zelda game series. And I'm a huge Zelda fan boy.
theprodigy
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welp, Zelda/Marth/Ganondorf not safe for SSB5
You missed the smash 64 veteran part.
So Zelda and Ganondorf still aren't safe of course.
How could you forget the best one?
Dat inter-department communication.
Hyperactivity
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cute ridley is only acceptable possibility. Any others shouldn't even be considered. /s
Red Arremer
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Look like somerhing out of SMTHow could you forget the best one?