FloppyDelux said:So they seized his stuff ...why?
Because they can. They don't need reason anymore since the Patriot Act was put into law.
FloppyDelux said:So they seized his stuff ...why?
Fraeon said:He did say he wasn't going to do that.
But yeah, the whole "no reasons or ways to contact" really is bullshit.
It's all those bags of milk! I knew nothing good could come from those!Quadratic said:If you went to T12 in person like I did, Vince (TTT_RXS) put up a chipin donate page. I put some money on there. http://spookyrecoveryfund.chipin.com/team-spooky-recovery-fund
I didn't get to talk to Spooky over the weekend because he was busting his ass all day and night. I do appreciate that he came up to Canada. I really hope this experience won't make it his last time
Quadratic said:If you went to T12 in person like I did, Vince (TTT_RXS) put up a chipin donate page. I put some money on there. http://spookyrecoveryfund.chipin.com/team-spooky-recovery-fund
I didn't get to talk to Spooky over the weekend because he was busting his ass all day and night. I do appreciate that he came up to Canada. I really hope this experience won't make it his last time
Professor Beef said:It's all those bags of milk! I knew nothing good could come from those!
Xater said:I don't even get how this is possible. For shit like this shouldn't there be at least reasonable suspicion or something? This just looks like they acted randomly and/or out on whim. Poor guy. I am feeling for Sp00ky, dude does great work for the fighting game community.
Araxen said:Because they can. They don't need reason anymore since the Patriot Act was put into law.
Why are you quoting me?ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:I don't agree with happened and I think this practise has much further reaching implications for US citizens than impacting a handful of FG streams but damn....It was only a joke. lighten up.
Could you elaborate? What happened?Spirit of Jazz said:I have a hard time believing Devastation was ever going to happen after Sp00ky blew up Level Up for making the announcement before he agreed on anything.
h3ro said:From the article:
I know I definitely do my fair share of bagging on Kotaku, but this is fantastic. I hope this gets out there further. Thanks Crecente.
http://kotaku.com/5844439/homeland-security-detains-pro+gaming-commentator-seizes-hardware said:Kotaku has filed an Freedom of Information Act request with the department seeking more details about the seizure and the timing of the equipment's release.
Mr Jared said:We'll be discussing this tonight with Spooky on FrameTrap: 7PM Pacific at http://twitch.tv/frametrap. For more info..
http://facebook.com/frametrap/ and there's also an official thread by USD floating around here but I can't search at the moment
I want to believe he'll get all his equipment back safely. It's going to suck for the next few weeks and whatnot but he'll keep pushing on, regardless of the outcome.
It's nothing to do with the Patriot Act.Araxen said:Because they can. They don't need reason anymore since the Patriot Act was put into law.
Wow for the first time I actually like KotakuBuzzati said:
Neuromancer said:It's nothing to do with the Patriot Act.
It's called border search authority and it's been in effect as far as I know for about 200 years. Any customs officer can search anything coming into, or out of, the border, with out a warrant or even reasonable suspicion.
Just as they can search a cargo container or a suitcase, they can search electronic media too.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this incident but it's completely within DHS's authority to detain something until they can search it. I'm not sure exactly what 'stream gear' refers to but if it's a computer they'll hold on to the hard drive for at least as long as they can make an image of it.
That just doesn't jive with what I know about the border search authority, which is that electronic media coming in from any country can be held and searched for a reasonable amount of time. I'm familiar with the whole process and I've never heard of The Patriot Act being used for such a purpose.Buzzati said:The Patriot Act revises US-Canada border searches in that they can collect data, and the equipment that allegedly contains that data insofar as it relates the person crossing that border. Before the revision - you're right, they could still search a cargo container or suitcase - but electronics with a data source now are seized for long periods of time or indefinitely - (I've read it can take over a year. A friend of mine's equipment took 13 months.) No statement of intention or any kind of warranted search needs to be documented, which might be why the inspection officer didn't bother putting a reason down on the filing papers - it's inconsequential. Unfortunately.
Aruarian Reflection said:Why are people impressed by Kotaku posting this? Kotaku is the gutter drain of the gaming internet. They'll post all the sludge and run-off they get.
Kotaku has filed an Freedom of Information Act request with the department seeking more details about the seizure and the timing of the equipment's release.
Nah man he's just making this up to get out of going to Devastation.Donthizz# said:has anyone been able to verify his side of the story?
DoHS: "He's a terrorist"Donthizz# said:has anyone been able to verify his side of the story?
Lazy vs Crazy said:Nah man he's just making this up to get out of going to Devastation.
Seriously? What motive does he have to make this up?
Billychu said:lets figure out how this is capcoms fault
lmaoConceited said:It was the SRK illuminati.
Chipping in $100 right now anyway.shuri said:I'm pretty sure sp00ky was getting paid to do this for big events, and I bet he had insurances.. I would not suggest going crazy with the donation stuff.
You must be new to American government.The DHS doesn't just take your shit for no reason.
ExactlyInfinite Justice said:People are impressed because of this
Neuromancer said:That just doesn't jive with what I know about the border search authority, which is that electronic media coming in from any country can be held and searched for a reasonable amount of time. I'm familiar with the whole process and I've never heard of The Patriot Act being used for such a purpose.
I'd bet money the stuff was detained pursuant to border search authority.
Maybe because this isn't sludge or run-off?Aruarian Reflection said:Why are people impressed by Kotaku posting this? Kotaku is the gutter drain of the gaming internet. They'll post all the sludge and run-off they get.
From the way he was talking in this video it doesn't seem like it. Although he does himself ask people that they're not asking for any donations at the moment and not to go crazy about it.shuri said:I'm pretty sure sp00ky was getting paid to do this for big events, and I bet he had insurances.. I would not suggest going crazy with the donation stuff.
biosnake20 said:Can someone give me a real fucking answer to who bishop is?
biosnake20 said:Can someone give me a real fucking answer to who bishop is?
An enigma.biosnake20 said:Can someone give me a real fucking answer to who bishop is?
biosnake20 said:Can someone give me a real fucking answer to who bishop is?
Eh you may be right, who knows.Buzzati said:I'm no expert on border security, and I'm willing to bet you know more than me about this sorta thing. It was my understanding that revisions to the search and seizures statutes (http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/PatriotAct.htm) that were put into play post Patriot Act had a big influence on what specifically was seized, for how long, and the process surrounding it all.
But, I really don't doubt you if this has been the same old song and dance for years. Ah, well.
It's all good man. Stay strong and don't let it get you down.Sp00ky said:Thanks for the love guys. Well keep you updated as we find out more. keep in mind that while this is a setback its not insurmountable, though it does affect our ability to stream in the short term time.
Most likely we will just buy a near identical set of stuff, because we cant really depend on getting the old gear back. We're still not asking for donations towards that end - you guys donated a lot already for t12 and in the past, so between that and ad revenue we're going to just make due. Thank you for everyone who donated anyway though.
Sorry that there isn't a lot of info but even I don't really know why they stopped me. Some google searches on this have shown pretty much it is an almost common practice now.
Best of luck to ya Sp00ky life ain't complete without you setting us free.Sp00ky said:Thanks for the love guys. Well keep you updated as we find out more. keep in mind that while this is a setback its not insurmountable, though it does affect our ability to stream in the short term time.
Most likely we will just buy a near identical set of stuff, because we cant really depend on getting the old gear back. We're still not asking for donations towards that end - you guys donated a lot already for t12 and in the past, so between that and ad revenue we're going to just make due. Thank you for everyone who donated anyway though.
Sorry that there isn't a lot of info but even I don't really know why they stopped me. Some google searches on this have shown pretty much it is an almost common practice now.