Arcades, dummy.
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TEKKEN 7 releases June 2nd (PC/XB1/PS4, Season Pass, Eliza, more details)
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Arcades, dummy.
The Artisan
Member
hey dummy...what were those arcade machines made out of?
hey dummy...what were those arcade machines made out of?
Not actual PlayStations. They were arcade boards based on the hardware.
I will concede that Tekken 6 did actually boot PS3 software briefly on launch, but it's not something the player would ever have a reason to see and there's no UI or anything.
The Artisan
Member
even if they weren't actual playstations, the fact that it was playstation hardware adds to its identity with the brand. and regardless of arcades, pre-tekken 6 if you ever wanted to play the full retail major installment of the game in the comfort of your home, you needed a playstation. and even as an exclusive franchise before going multiplatform, it still ended up being one of the best selling game franchises and the best selling fighting game franchise which is definitely an impressive feat.
sixteen-bit
Member
I feel like June 2 was the delay, considering they initially said "early 2017"
They were? Aren't all the boards significantly better performing than the original home ports? (Tekken 7 excluded at the moment)
No it doesn't add identity with the brand at fucking all. Nobody except a few hardware nerds know they share hardware. Thousands of people aren't playing at the arcade going "oh I'm here playing on PlayStation hardware, wow I love the PlayStation brand and will forever link the PlayStation brand with the Tekken brand in my head!". Nobody who plays in the arcade gives a fuck about Tekken 7 being based on PC hardware and UE4. You're the only person who kept bringing it up after it was revealed and cared. What do sales have to do with it? Nothing.
Quit with the fanboy shtick. Exclusive content isn't good, it doesn't make the game better, and you shouldn't want to deprive others of content.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Exclusive content aside, you are understating the fact that most Tekken fans back in the day knew about the arcade versions being basically PlayStation hardware. It was all over the magazine articles when a new Tekken was announced.
How old are you? You're acting silly.
Edit: and it WAS synonymous with PlayStation.
The Artisan
Member
alright i'm not gonna respond to this. as far as i'm concerned, calling me a fanboy groups into the same category as people like crapgamer and if that's the way you're going to talk to me then it's not worth having this discussion
Been playing arcade since T3. Nobody cared back then.
Are you seriously trying to say because the arcade hardware was based off PS hardware that arcade players grew deep connections between the PlayStation brand and Tekken brand? No.
I agree that Tekken and PlayStation are pretty synonymous for console players. But I don't think arcade has anything to do with it. And obviously I don't think it justifies exclusive content (I also don't think the exclusive content is that big of a deal).
You are a fanboy. You think PlayStation exclusive content is a good thing. That's exactly what a fanboy would say. Your justification is "I have deep connections between the PlayStation brand and Tekken". You even said you're biased!
Arcade units back in the day had beefed up Playstation hardware, so almost all the home ports were a few notches below in quality.
Tekken Tag Tournament was the exception (which looked fantastic on the PS2) because the arcade version was still based on PSOne tech.
The Artisan
Member
and you're grouping me with crapgamer, so I have nothing more to say to you
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
That's not even what the person you're arguing with is saying. Tekken was a PlayStation brand to a lot of people and even though it was in arcades first, everyone knew where it was going come home release. Simple as that.
lucebuce12
Member
So exactly how many characters will be in the game at launch, not counting Eliza?
I don't even know who you're talking about.
Tekken was a PlayStation brand to console players. Arcade players, less so.
And yes, he was saying because there the arcade hardware was based of PS hardware it led to more PS/Tekken brand connection. He's talked about this before.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
"Perhaps I'm biased" was ignored by Zero
The Artisan
Member
doesn't matter. if there can't a mutual respect, this conversation is over
indeed it was, and I already admitted several pages back that my perspective on things is different; if Mass Effect 4 had exclusive content on xbone, hell if the game itself was exclusive to xbone, I would not take issue with it. This is coming from someone who loved Me2, and who's never owned an xbox.
No, it wasn't.
Cool. You're definitely a fanboy. Exclusive content is not good.
If you have a problem with the term fanboy, let me say: "you're biased toward a platform/brand and that leads you to take irrational, emotionally driven stances."
(Which is a fanboy)
The Artisan
Member
You know what, you're right. I know your posting history, I know the general level of quality of your posts, I'm aware of how much knowledge you have, I know your preferences and biases and I shouldn't have misled you into believing there was any respect there. I won't talk to you again.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Currently 34, counting Kuma/Panda and Lee/Violet together, and not counting Eliza.
However, all the marketing stuff says 'more than thirty characters' instead of nailing a number and the Tekken twitter has hinted there will be more character reveals before release.
lucebuce12
Member
I thought Kuma and Panda were separate characters this time around, or are they still just a palette swap?
Also it'd be fantastic if there are even more characters showing up for the console release.
SquirrelSoup
Member
They have at least different rage arts, and they -are- listed separately by Namco. So 35 if you buy into that.
I'm just kinda not convinced until i see some evidence of actually different movelists, aha. =D
(Also one bear + palette swap is kinda enough for me. Too much perhaps. Don't like bears. Two whole characters, really?)
So 35 in total , maybe 2 more announced and 2 dlc , 39 - I'm fine with it, hope thats it for now. If they release another view like a year from release like sf5 is doing id be down for it.
The Artisan
Member
you've got quite the ego then, don't you
lucebuce12
Member
Fair enough lol, not a fan of bears either but there seems to be a fanbase for them.
Really excited cause this is my first Tekken since Tekken 3 and I plan on putting a lot of time into it. The furthest I ever got in Tekken 3 in terms of skill was being able to do one of King's tougher combos (which I still remember to this day.)
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
For such an arcade snob, he sure is concerned about the X one version of this game.
There's been other people in the thread concerned about content on PC (which gets nothing exclusive). I also said I don't think the exclusive content is that big of a deal, just that it shouldn't be labeled a good thing.
Interesting that you tried to say I was ignoring things, when it seems you're doing a better job at reading into posts rather than actually just reading them.
speedwagon_
Banned
I highly doubt the exclusive content will be permanent on one console, I suspect it will be timed.
The Artisan
Member
if i understand the OP correctly the xbone version comes with a free copy of tekken 6, that's something that the Ps4 version doesn't have
lucebuce12
Member
The PC version does also get a reduced price at 50$ for the game instead of 60$.
That is something to keep in mind I think.
That is something to keep in mind I think.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
They'll be released across all platforms eventually.
atomic moth
Member
Why don't you guys just do what Namco did to Lei and hit that ignore button?
I agree that's likely the case (PS VR content I'm iffy about, but if XB1 doesn't get VR support that's fine, PC should get it). But that's besides the point. Exclusive content is not good. I don't think it's a big deal, but I'm also not going to say it's a good thing because PS and Tekken and brand loyalty or whatever.
Oh believe me I did
Yep actually brought that up when people weren't happy about the PC version lacking content.
XB1 giving away T6 is fine, because realistically they couldn't do that on other platforms. It's also old content related to a game that was released on PS3 as well, not new content for the new game.
When was this stated?
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
Or by people who were so interested in it that they bought it and and then found out it was an unfinished product that was rushed to market with missing features and garbage online that wouldn't be fixed for months.
The Artisan
Member
it wasn't but it's the most likely scenario. batman arkham night's dlc was timed exclusive and so was destiny's.
The hate it received for the state it launched in was very much deserved.
It also seems to be acting as a lesson for other devs on how not to launch their games, which is a nice plus.
That's the cut Sony and MS get that isn't needed for PC. That's all.
I am not discrediting the actual criticism to the game here. It's just that I think that Namco is not going to sell the game to a significant part of the SFV detractors by addressing one of the most criticized aspect of that game.
I already tried to defend the defendable at the launch of the game. I'm through with that.
Good to know!
The Artisan
Member
i don't believe in the ignore button tbh
yeah i wouldn't be surprised if it comes to xbone and PC eventually. give it a year, tops.
AlexFlame116
Member
Why don't we all just play the game please? I'm sorry if you don't agree on PlayStation exclusives or which person played which game first. But it's happening. It also doesn't really matter if you played the first Tekken game on arcade in Japan eons ago when we were all young and innocent, we've progressed to where we are now. Just agree to disagree and move on. It's taking the majority of the page.
Anyways, I'm sure the season pass DLC hasn't begun yet but I'm still sad that the NA CE won't get it included. Was there ever a reason explained for this?
Anyways, I'm sure the season pass DLC hasn't begun yet but I'm still sad that the NA CE won't get it included. Was there ever a reason explained for this?
grap3fruitman
Banned
Is that supposed to make anyone feel better? Tekken 7, in some form, has been out elsewhere for two years. The bar for entry in fighting games is high enough already without giving other people a two year head-start. Not to mention the game feels dated at this point... I guess I can wait even longer for a decent Steam sale.
The Artisan
Member
i'm willing to put disagreements aside to continue the general discussion in this thread, but i didn't initiate the conflict. as for the season pass dlc, I asked about it earlier in this thread and MoonsaultSlayer suggested:
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Unless Sony paid Namco and came up with this idea (I doubt it), this initiative was probably one of a few options they gave Sony to choose from as an exclusive for a period of time that acts as a sort of advertisement of what else may be in store.
I didn't take Art as saying this exclusivity was good. More like saying he doesn't care and it makes sense in the same way a MS deal with Mass Effect to release legacy skins because of a past partnership. No biggie.
The Artisan
Member
lemme put it this way: if I had an xbone instead of a Ps4, I wouldn't complain about tekken 7 getting exclusive content on Ps4 because it makes sense, all things considered. Likewise how I said earlier if the same thing happened with Me4, I wouldn't think there's anything wrong with it, I would think it is justified. It depends on the franchise and it depends on the reasons. That's my perspective on exclusivity
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Don't forget that Namco led the trend on minimal content backlash with Soulcalibur V. That game plays great but it got torn apart in reviews due to the minimal single player content.
sixteen-bit
Member
Did that game kill the mainline SC franchise?
It sold really well.
SC4 sold 2 million + and we barely got SC5. The only thing killing SC is Namco.