Why not ? It certainly works that way for/because of the story.
The Blade are a subspecies born with a weapon from a crystal touched by a Driver.
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Tetsuya Takahashi's message on Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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The Blade are a subspecies born with a weapon from a crystal touched by a Driver.
Mister Wolf
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Where did you get that info Waji?
What The Forest Taught Me
Member
Well this is a bad move because, incidentally, the majority of the world's game-purchasing population isn't Japanese.
I know, I would have just prefered if it was one or the other. It usually makes a better relationship and a better story.
I think the main character looks dumb as hell too, but I'm willing to give the game the benefit of the doubt. I think it looks fun and I'd love to be able to play a big ass RPG like this on a handheld.
Sometimes games have a younger lead character because of a plot twist, Shadow Hearts 3, for example. Although, I doubt that is the case here.
Sometimes games have a younger lead character because of a plot twist, Shadow Hearts 3, for example. Although, I doubt that is the case here.
SporeCrawler
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who cares. xenoblade 1 and x had horrible character design too. at the end of the day the games were loved becauße of the open world gameplay
Mister Wolf
Member
The Tales of games sell pretty well some even passing 1.5 million, much better than the Xenoblade series.
What The Forest Taught Me
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Exactly. And therein lies one of the biggest problems. It's shameful and disgusting.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
She looks nothing like a 12 year old no matter how many times you say it, she towers over the main character
The only thing shameful and disgusting here is your hyperbole...
Tanaka has such a distinct, perfect anime style. It makes me sad it hasn't translated as well to 3D the way it deserves to be.
ThomasAnderson
Member
Can I start here with zero Xenoblade experience?
Mister Wolf
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Maybe they should have cell shaded it. It probably would have looked better.
Mister Wolf
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Yes. The games aren't connected by story.
Yes, this is similar to a Final Fantasy kind of "sequel".
This is true. What I find annoying is people who assume the high ground by expressing their "superior" values over another.
Cultural boundaries set aside, I do believe the sexualization of males/females is hurtful for future generations. But I'm not one to tell other cultures which of their values are wrong or right. I think this is the point many here are missing. Or maybe not. I don't really know. Maybe some people are missing the fact that this game is created in Japan for a Japanese audience first.
Indeed. New story, characters, and world with this one.
What The Forest Taught Me
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Yeah....same here.....same here. What happened to Takahashi (and many other Japanese creators)? It seems as though we'll never get a Xenogears-caliber game from him again.
Silent_Ocarina
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As far as we know, the game will likely make a couple Easter Egg style nods to the first game, but I don't consider it a direct follow-up to the first game based on released information, so you should be fine.
Anyway, I don't know how people are determining her age with authority like that.
TwilightPrincess
Member
It's sad that some guys judge and dismiss the game because of the cup size of one character. Overexaggerating because of nothing. There was always anime style in Xeno games, there was always boobs (and more naked skin or Dekolleté than now, did you really play Xenoblade and X?). The game will be great and isn't about boobs. Get over it.
I think this is the opposite extreme of the gamergate crap..
I think this is the opposite extreme of the gamergate crap..
I could also post Fi here too if you like (even though it is her turning into a sword rather than her using a sword).
What The Forest Taught Me
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Hey, you're free to defend the reprehensible practice of creating hypersexualized pre-teens all you want. Perhaps I've hit a soft spot with you?
TheGreatLugia
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He probably got burnt out after being unable to finish either Xenogears or Xenosaga like he wanted. From what I can recall, Xenoblade was the first time he was able to tell a complete story in a fully fleshed out game.
TwilightPrincess
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Yeah, it doesn't look good in the game so i'm happy they go with an artstyle they can transfer to ingame graphics. It works better for monolithsoft.
There comes a time when you can't ignore this glaring issue any longer.
Mister Wolf
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For someone so bothered by the design are you still gonna buy the game?
I agree completely. If it's such a huge issue , just don't play the game. Problem solved.
To think about it, Pyra's upper legs and lower back sides are the only exposed parts on her outfit.
If someone made something out of prejudicial motivations, culture becomes irrelevant. Sex is a personal thing. The body is all we have. You're technically right but when it comes to matters like the depection of said bodies, due to the nature of human want and how we express that want, it's something to always extensively gauge on. Saying something like that can be dangerous.
https://clips.twitch.tv/SuaveAmorphousWeaselKappaClaus
Putting both together in a paragraph can potentially be offensive to those pole dancers.
Mister Wolf
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But that would require missing out on playing the game instead of making a financial statement to the publisher and director that they will actually notice.
What The Forest Taught Me
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This is certainly a possibility; I hope he's got one more Xenogears in him.
What The Forest Taught Me
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Absolutely not. Why would I support such practices? More pointedly, why would you? Nice try though.
What The Forest Taught Me
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If taken out of context, it certainly could be, until they realized the character in discussion looks 12 to 13 years old.
Mister Wolf
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Because fan service doesn't bother me. I don't have guilt while I read One Piece or Naruto or any other manga/anime/game. That's good you wont be buying it though I respect that. Had somebody in here complaining before and yet they bought and owned Final Fantasy XV can you imagine the hypocrisy.
This discussion leads nowhere. The character designs are out of our control, and whether we find them clashing with our principles or not is a matter of personal opinion. On the one hand the game is much more than it's character designs, so if you're willing to let it go or like the designs in the first place you'll probably find plenty more things to love in the game. If, on the other hand you can't possibly bear the thought of playing the game with those characters, complaining and belittling the opinions of others accomplishes nothing and stifles conversation about those other aspects of the game.
I believe most people in this thread already established whether they like the design or not, and for those that do plan on buying the game, it would probably be nice to be able to move past this discussion and talk about other elements of the game instead of continuing to see hostile posts from both sides that simply won't budge.
I believe most people in this thread already established whether they like the design or not, and for those that do plan on buying the game, it would probably be nice to be able to move past this discussion and talk about other elements of the game instead of continuing to see hostile posts from both sides that simply won't budge.
Most gamers don't really want a convoluted story , they want a good game.
I'm a fan of Xenogears and Xenosaga , but as games they were mediocre. Only Xenosaga III actually had good gameplay imo.
And Xenoblade , while nowhere near as good as gears and saga in terms of story , was a great game.
So I think his approach is actually the best one. Balance between gameplay and story and don't focus on one to the detriment of another. He doesn't sound burnt out at all , but someone who is sure of his craft and found a good formula in Xenoblade.
If only the character design was more unique.
Mister Wolf
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Xenosaga 2 absolutely derailed Xenosaga series for me. Wasn't even the story but the atrocious battle system and character building.
Silent_Ocarina
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Haven't you heard? It's super easy to determine an anime character's age based on face alone. There's no ambiguity at all.
Ugh don't remind me. That game was a disaster. Worst entry in the series by far.
Lots of people seem to think any anime girl who isn't clearly 30 years old is automatically a 12 year old, regardless of whether of how developed their body is. I hope nobody bothered by designs like this ever goes to a porn site, because there are lots of real women who look younger than 18 on there.
Twilight Princess
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Ill play x2 for sure but i will probably end up hating it for the same reasons i hate nair2
TheGreatLugia
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That might be a better way to put it than what I wrote. I got the impression that after Xenogears and Xenosaga, Takahashi might have come to the conclusion that those types of sprawling narratives might not be feasible in large scale RPGs without significant compromise like making drastic cuts or focusing so much on the narrative that the core gameplay suffers.
That being said, I do wonder if part of him wants to give that sort of thing one more go. This is from the Xenoblade X Iwata Asks (source):
Takeda's comment made me wonder if only a portion of the story content Takahashi wrote was used for Xenoblade X. In addition to that and the way Xenoblade X ended, there were also teases in the game's art book about how the continents explored in Xenoblade X were only a fraction of Mira, with at least one other ark ship crashing on another part of the planet.
MegaManTrigger
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Exactly, that's why I said "looks younger." You can't always tell someone's age by their face. Whether in real life or anime/videogames.
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I'm not even exaggerating when I say the character design alone is destroying all interest I could have in this game. I know it's supposed to be good, from a gameplay perspective, and the world screenshots look amazing, but I can't deal with these incredibly one-note, generic and fanservicy anime kid characters. And I actually do like a lot of anime.
It's just way, way too much.
It's just way, way too much.