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The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth+ |OT| 200 More Hours of Bad Keeper Runs
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balladofwindfishes
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Booster is done, coming in the next few days
Considering that today is Thursday, I guess that means either tonight or tomorrow.
Considering that today is Thursday, I guess that means either tonight or tomorrow.
Debated picking this game up for the Switch. Never played it before. I got The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth on PS4 back when it was free. I am having a hard time understanding what the difference is between the Isaac titles. What does this version include? Gameplay looks like fun though.
I know the odds don't show it, but I've never had an angel room spawn on a floor I've taken red heart damage too. Have had the % up at high as 80% on Angel with like 0% on Devil, and just no room will spawn instead.
Now I just go for sacrifice rooms, less aggravation.
It includes Rebirth, the Afterbirth and the Afterbirth+ expansions.
Afterbirth added a new game mode called Greed mode, new items, characters, floor variants, enemies and bosses. Afterbirth+ added more new stuff such a harder version of Greed mode.
Okay thanks! I thought so, but wasn't sure.
Will definitely look at picking this up soon then.
The Angel Room logic goes like this
Check if Devil Room spawns > after it is determined that a Devil Room spawns, determine if an Angel Room spawns instead of the Devil Room
If you prevent a Devil Room from spawning, you're preventing an Angel Room from spawning.
So you always have to get a Devil room once and pass it up to have a shot at Angel? That explains why i got zilch once from a sac room. I missed out on the floor above
Edit: Either that or I took damage from something else
Dangerblade
Member
Bet you a sticky nickel it'll be next week
If you got a faith item and you've already done one devil deal you can use sacrifice rooms to bump that up to 100% without worry of taking damage iirc.
It's bullshit trying to do it otherwise. I've been at 75% and got no angel rooms for an entire run or I find 5 angel rooms and one of the angels never spawns.
Triforce141
Member
I thought victory laps prevented getting any completion mark
An exploit yet to be fixed. I hope it does.
Did the Backasswards challenge last night. Took a while to get a good combination to start.
Ended up with Mom's Knife and Pyromaniac as the biggest starting items with decent damage. Joker card spawned with me so I used that right away and picked up Brimstone.
Using Pyro I was able to beat both Mega Satan and Satan will full health thanks to the regen. Lost Mom's knife moving up to Womb II but after killing It Lives the devil deal gave me Maw of the Void which combined with Pyro meant health was never an issue.
Such a fun challenge but took a while to get a good set of items to start off with, felt like more often than not I would start with 3.5 damage, bad tear rate, shot speed and range and a bunch of garbage items.
Ended up with Mom's Knife and Pyromaniac as the biggest starting items with decent damage. Joker card spawned with me so I used that right away and picked up Brimstone.
Using Pyro I was able to beat both Mega Satan and Satan will full health thanks to the regen. Lost Mom's knife moving up to Womb II but after killing It Lives the devil deal gave me Maw of the Void which combined with Pyro meant health was never an issue.
Such a fun challenge but took a while to get a good set of items to start off with, felt like more often than not I would start with 3.5 damage, bad tear rate, shot speed and range and a bunch of garbage items.
holygeesus
Banned
Any tips for beating Ultra Greed with Azazel? I get to him every run pretty much but always get my arse kicked no matter how specced out I am.
balladofwindfishes
Member
So last night passed with no booster. If it isn't tonight, I guess "next week" last week actually meant 2 weeks, and 2 weeks ago "last week" meant almost a month.
I managed to get Ludo, and from there it was pretty easy
I managed to get Ludo, and from there it was pretty easy
Was it ever stated why they opted for the drip feed booster pack approach instead of saving it all for bigger release / expansion that's served them well enough so far?
LordRaptor
Member
balladofwindfishes
Member
I think they actually thought the had the resources to do it monthly. Evidently, that's not the case.
I don't mind "month and a halfish" boosters as long as they do at least 12 of them as was originally planned. If they stop after a year, even if they only did 7 or 8, that'd be pretty awful.
A lot of people were tolerant of AB+'s lighter content for its price because it came with a year of monthly new content (12 updates)
backflip10019
Member
So I'm still a noob, I beat mom and mom's heart. Are there new bosses that keep cycling in?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Yes, you still have a long way to go. Just keep beating the Heart over and over again.
holygeesus
Banned
After 40 (forty!) beats in a row I'm giving up for a few days. This is the first time in years I've ever raged at a single-player game, and as a middle-aged man, it's not good for my health
balladofwindfishes
Member
Greedier mode is a pretty large blemish of poor game design on an otherwise really well made game. I've beaten it with Azazel and Lilith, and both attempts were just 100% luck of the draw good builds (Ludo for Az, Gnawed Leaf + Daddy for Lilith)After 40 (forty!) beats in a row I'm giving up for a few days. This is the first time in years I've ever raged at a single-player game, and as a middle-aged man, it's not good for my health
He posted on twitter yesterday
"final edits to booster 2 are in! should go live in the next few days, ill do a detailed blog post when its live"
balladofwindfishes
Member
That's what I was talking about.
Last week he said "next week" even though two weeks ago he said "next week" and now "next few days" are either tonight, or his "next week" from last week was a week late.
Anyone else do yesterday's Daily Run? Man that was crazy.
Starting with a powerful Azazel was nice, and then I got one of the items which randomizes everything every time you use it.
I was dumb and decided to randomize everything 5-10 times, which luckily eventually resulted in a pretty awesome roll.
I couldn't tell exactly what I ended up with, but:
-I was suddenly shooting flames occasionally in addition to my Azazel laser
-I seemed to have a lot of friendlies absorbing damage for me
-Every single pill I swallowed resulted in every enemy taking significant damage
-I kept dropping hearts at a fairly rapid rate
I managed to complete the entire boss rush with this run, which is a first for me on Switch! Everything seemed easy peasy.
But then for some reason Mom's Heart absolutely destroyed me...
...I think it's because I had picked up something else which disconnected my head from my body, and it was tough to tell where my body was (which took all the damage) since I was focused on where the head was shooting.
Starting with a powerful Azazel was nice, and then I got one of the items which randomizes everything every time you use it.
I was dumb and decided to randomize everything 5-10 times, which luckily eventually resulted in a pretty awesome roll.
I couldn't tell exactly what I ended up with, but:
-I was suddenly shooting flames occasionally in addition to my Azazel laser
-I seemed to have a lot of friendlies absorbing damage for me
-Every single pill I swallowed resulted in every enemy taking significant damage
-I kept dropping hearts at a fairly rapid rate
I managed to complete the entire boss rush with this run, which is a first for me on Switch! Everything seemed easy peasy.
But then for some reason Mom's Heart absolutely destroyed me...
...I think it's because I had picked up something else which disconnected my head from my body, and it was tough to tell where my body was (which took all the damage) since I was focused on where the head was shooting.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Well to be fair he only said expect "something" not necessarily a release
meh it'll come when it comes
It's coming tonight.
Well that answers that, I guess.
I would agree, it would only punish new players since older ones exploited the heck out of it.
To be fair though, there is definitely a few characters I wouldn't of ran hard mode on, so it made me switch it up more often. Also to get true completion you still have to beat Greed Mode on hard.
Sweet!
balladofwindfishes
Member
Funny enough, I only used the Victory Lap exploit for Lost's Delirium kill, and I didn't even do the run as Lost, it was 99% an Eden run until literally the room before Delirium. Everything else for Lost I did legit.
I hope they don't fix it before I get a good Keeper run, though. I thought I had it last night, nice damage, Tech tears, it was a good build. And then I hit that caves room with the thin path in the middle and bomb flies everywhere and that was the end. Was all set to take the run to the Dark Room.
I abused the heck out of it for Lilith, Maggie and Samson, though!
I hope they don't fix it before I get a good Keeper run, though. I thought I had it last night, nice damage, Tech tears, it was a good build. And then I hit that caves room with the thin path in the middle and bomb flies everywhere and that was the end. Was all set to take the run to the Dark Room.
I abused the heck out of it for Lilith, Maggie and Samson, though!
GroundCombo
Member
Ultra Hard DONE. NEVER AGAIN.
Recipe for success: First floor Satanic Bible and Synthoil, Judas' Shadow and some tears up from Caves, Brimstone from Depths, Cricket's Head from Sheol. Fuck this challenge.
until maybe the next save slot
Recipe for success: First floor Satanic Bible and Synthoil, Judas' Shadow and some tears up from Caves, Brimstone from Depths, Cricket's Head from Sheol. Fuck this challenge.
I think you overestimate the number of people who even know about the exploit. And regardless, that's not a reason not to fix it.
Tainted
Member
Yes, I believe the exploit is you exit after victory lap begins which enables completion marks to register during the victory lap..
Which isn't supposed to happen.
I believe victory lap is supposed to be treated like a seeded run. Thats how I understand it anyway
balladofwindfishes
Member
6 new items (last booster had 9)
But those are just items that show up in the stats, there could be trinkets, cards, pills, etc, that wouldn't show up
If there are new bosses or enemies, they forgot to add them to the Bestiary. There are no new challenges.
New shop item: Coupon, makes one random item free in the shop on a 6 room charge This also confirms there's no time limit on items, since this was an early January item.
Tech 0 is in
Some item called "Jumper Cables"
New mirror thing
Mods don't seem to disable achievements anymore (console is still active though muahahahahahaha KEEPER RUNS HERE I COME)
But those are just items that show up in the stats, there could be trinkets, cards, pills, etc, that wouldn't show up
If there are new bosses or enemies, they forgot to add them to the Bestiary. There are no new challenges.
New shop item: Coupon, makes one random item free in the shop on a 6 room charge This also confirms there's no time limit on items, since this was an early January item.
Tech 0 is in
Some item called "Jumper Cables"
New mirror thing
Mods don't seem to disable achievements anymore (console is still active though muahahahahahaha KEEPER RUNS HERE I COME)
I mean, the mechanic wasn't implemented to make getting unlocks easier. It was implemented solely to lengthen the time of a run.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The console is enabled 100% of the time, so if you're a dirty cheater, you can just use it to give yourself a solid build and just warp around to where you need to go
Not that anyone here would EVER do that.
Not that anyone here would EVER do that.
