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[Echoes]

StarDunk is among my favorite iOS games, alongside Carcassonne. I love everything about it, and the GC support is the icing on the cake. I only wish for a 1-vs-1 matches using GC (in addition to the usual online mass-matches). Would be neat.

 

[japtor]

if you play iphone games with retina display on the iPad, does it benefit from it?

Nope. I'm hoping 4.2 addresses this but it wasn't mentioned so who knows. As long as an app doesn't need 512MB RAM like the iPhone 4 it should be able to work fine on the iPad.

 

[Minsc]

Nope. I'm hoping 4.2 addresses this but it wasn't mentioned so who knows. As long as an app doesn't need 512MB RAM like the iPhone 4 it should be able to work fine on the iPad.

I think the new Touch will ensure nothing needs 512MB of RAM for another 2-3 years. Still, having the extra RAM will help with iOS 4's multi-tasking, it's nice to be able to switch between carcassonne and another app instantly.

Stuff like Epic Citadel's higher quality textures on the iPhone 4's retina display may be culprit of the 512MB RAM, but I think since the Epic Citadel was updated to support the new retina display Touch, it probably uses the higher quality textures w/ just 256MB of ram, so not even that probably needs the ram.

 

[Blackhead]

I think the new Touch will ensure nothing needs 512MB of RAM for another 2-3 years. Still, having the extra RAM will help with iOS 4's multi-tasking, it's nice to be able to switch between carcassonne and another app instantly.

Stuff like Epic Citadel's higher quality textures on the iPhone 4's retina display may be culprit of the 512MB RAM, but I think since the Epic Citadel was updated to support the new retina display Touch, it probably uses the higher quality textures w/ just 256MB of ram, so not even that probably needs the ram.

Unlikely:

If you’re wondering why I didn’t run Epic’s amazing Citadel demo, it’s because of the next major difference between the iPhone 4 and the iPod Touch: memory size.

The A4 in the iPod Touch appears to be a lower clocked version of what you get in the iPad, it only has 256MB of memory compared to the 4’s 512MB. Currently Epic’s Citadel demo treats the iPod Touch as an iPhone 4 and crashes before getting into the demo as a result. Epic should have an update out soon that fixes the problem by lowering texture quality to fit within the memory limits of the iPod Touch.

 

[Minsc]

Unlikely:

Like I said above (right before you bolded ), they just put out a new update:

Added support for 4th generation iPod touch devices.

So I'd figure that plays in to the troubles the reviewer was having (not having a version compatible w/ the touch). I'd be pretty shock if the app could load lower-res textures in the retina mode based on the device id or something, but wouldn't mind hearing from someone definitively.

 

[soldat7]

Picked up Project Sanctuary for $0.99 yesterday, and it's a surprisingly good game. Top-down, dual-stick third person post-apocalyptic shooter with leveling, skill trees, weapon upgrades, multiple game modes, and 4 playable characters. 24 unique stages, 1 unlockable character, 3 difficulty levels, unofficial achievements, good graphics and controls. Good value.

Retina support? People in the comments keep saying how good the graphics look after the recent update, but no mention of Retina specifically...

 

[Gamecocks625]

Any thought on real golf 2011? I'm debating whether to get it or hold out for tiger woods 11

 

[Nemo]

Can I have the full experience of gaming if I buy just the cheapest ipod touch? I'm talking internal hardware and multitouch input. Would love to play some games myself and test out how the platform is despite my dislike for touch screens.

 

[Mejilan]

Retina support? People in the comments keep saying how good the graphics look after the recent update, but no mention of Retina specifically...

Not really sure, to be honest.
The IP4 is my first iDevice that isn't an iPod Classic.
I'll say that I haven't noticed that slight blurriness or fuzziness I've come to recognize from my pre-IP4 apps, I can't say whether or not it natively supports retina.
I'd tend to think that it doesn't if the product page doesn't specifically mention it. Seem to be a major bullet point feature for those apps that do support retina displays.

 

[Shanks]

Can I have the full experience of gaming if I buy just the cheapest ipod touch? I'm talking internal hardware and multitouch input. Would love to play some games myself and test out how the platform is despite my dislike for touch screens.

For the most part, yes. The new iPod touch has the newest hardware inside. It does not have the IPS screen however it does have the new resolution, or retina display if you want to call it that. It has worse viewing angles basically. Overall though, this is one of the best improvements for the touch. Generally they make the cheapest model last years and introduce the new ones at 299+ but they didn't do that this year which is nice.

 

[Gamecocks625]

I'm totally loving StarDunk. More people need to buy this game. Super slick controls, you get better every time, and online play is addictive as fuck. Supports Game Center, too.

EDIT:


Read your tweet and went ahead and picked it up. Still haven't tried it yet, though.

I'll have to check it out. Never heard of it before.

Anyone feel free to send me a friend request for GC

 

[Nemo]

For the most part, yes. The new iPod touch has the newest hardware inside. It does not have the IPS screen however it does have the new resolution, or retina display if you want to call it that. It has worse viewing angles basically. Overall though, this is one of the best improvements for the touch. Generally they make the cheapest model last years and introduce the new ones at 299+ but they didn't do that this year which is nice.

Thanks man

Do you happen to know how big of an improvement the IPS screen is regarding colors? I've been working with an IPS panel for some months now and the difference is noticable to me now almost to the point that I don't want to go back. I didn't even know the ipod had an IPS panel so I won't mind getting that model!

edit, might as well put this in too. I have a new itouch 8g sitting with me now as a test model. It was 160 euros in price, any way to check what gen it is without connecting to itunes? No cameras too

 

[Echoes]

Thanks man

Do you happen to know how big of an improvement the IPS screen is regarding colors? I've been working with an IPS panel for some months now and the difference is noticable to me now almost to the point that I don't want to go back. I didn't even know the ipod had an IPS panel so I won't mind getting that model!

I did a side-by-side comparison between my old 3GS and new iPhone 4. There is a huge difference in colors, most noticeably: when side-by-side, browsing a site with a white background shows as "sepia" in 3GS. Seriously, it looks "yellowish" while the i4 displays it as pure white. Everything looks unbelieveably amazing in general.

 

[Nemo]

I did a side-by-side comparison between my old 3GS and new iPhone 4. There is a huge difference in colors, most noticeably: when side-by-side, browsing a site with a white background shows as "sepia" in 3GS. Seriously, it looks "yellowish" while the i4 displays it as pure white. Everything looks unbelieveably amazing in general.

Thanks man, that's all I needed to hear. What would be the cheapest model I need for the IPS panel? All these different SKUs and models are confusing the hell outta me

 

[Shanks]

Thanks man, that's all I needed to hear. What would be the cheapest model I need for the IPS panel? All these different SKUs and models are confusing the hell outta me

Should have clarified, I'm pretty sure none of the iPod touches have an IPS panel. I think it is just an iPhone 4 and iPad thing.

 

[MDJCM]

Yeah i've tried Epic Citadel on iPhone 4, new Touch and iPad. The iPhone 4 is definitely superior. Textures and frame rate take a hit on the other 2, must be a side effect of the lower RAM

 

[mjc]

Has any media for FFT shown up yet or are they keeping it quiet till launch?

 

[Ledsen]

Thanks man, that's all I needed to hear. What would be the cheapest model I need for the IPS panel? All these different SKUs and models are confusing the hell outta me

I'm pretty sure all iPod Touches have the exact same spec, only difference is amount of memory. If you want the awesome screen you'll have to buy an iPhone 4.

 

[Minsc]

Has any media for FFT shown up yet or are they keeping it quiet till launch?

Seems to be nothing, just this lame trailer showing nothing.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Like I said above (right before you bolded ), they just put out a new update:



So I'd figure that plays in to the troubles the reviewer was having (not having a version compatible w/ the touch). I'd be pretty shock if the app could load lower-res textures in the retina mode based on the device id or something, but wouldn't mind hearing from someone definitively.

So new iPod Touch owners can look forward to gimped games going forward.

Awesome.

 

[Nemo]

Should have clarified, I'm pretty sure none of the iPod touches have an IPS panel. I think it is just an iPhone 4 and iPad thing.

Ah yeah. I just saw it. Too bad, don't want the iPhone so guess I'll do without the screen.

I'm thinking between v3 and v4 of the touch, they're both the same right? I can play all the games including the epic demo on both these units?

I'm pretty sure all iPod Touches have the exact same spec, only difference is amount of memory. If you want the awesome screen you'll have to buy an iPhone 4.

Some people reported they can't play the epic demo on the ipod touch 2g and 3g :/. Ugh, now I'm even more confused

So new iPod Touch owners can look forward to gimped games going forward.

Awesome.

Yeah, this is what I'm trying to research now, I'm buying the thing specifically for games and don't want to find out later I have bought a dud

 

[LCfiner]

So new iPod Touch owners can look forward to gimped games going forward.

Awesome.

considering the smallish number of iPhone 4s vs. the huge number of iPhone 3gs and iPod touch 3rd and 4th gens, what’s going to happen is 99% of games will be optimized for those slightly weaker devices and there’ll be one rare game that will push the iPhone 4.

 

[Minsc]

Yeah i've tried Epic Citadel on iPhone 4, new Touch and iPad. The iPhone 4 is definitely superior. Textures and frame rate take a hit on the other 2, must be a side effect of the lower RAM

Well that's that then! Epic Citadel's officially the first game to actually use more than 256MBs of RAM, and it's probably going to be the last one for quite a while! Any chance of getting a comparison screenshot from each device (iPhone 4, 4th Gen Touch, iPad)?

Developing for the iOS is becoming more and more like Windows gaming with the wide variety of hardware to support (though I guess it's not as bad as Android's various hardware & resolution models), especially if the new 2nd gen iPad has 512MB of RAM and comes out Q1 2011 like rumored.

Well if the iPhone 4 goes to Verizon and T-Mobile next year, and the new iPad also has 512MB of RAM, that might push the odds of seeing games using all that RAM to a small bit higher.

I think realistically you won't see any games that don't work on 256MB devices, just games that scale back textures or whatever like Epic Citadel does.

 

[Psy-Phi]

I did a side-by-side comparison between my old 3GS and new iPhone 4. There is a huge difference in colors, most noticeably: when side-by-side, browsing a site with a white background shows as "sepia" in 3GS. Seriously, it looks "yellowish" while the i4 displays it as pure white. Everything looks unbelieveably amazing in general.

Something's wrong with your 3GS screen.

 

[Kodiak]

Has any media for FFT shown up yet or are they keeping it quiet till launch?

Just watch those old FFT PSP trailers. same deal.

 

[Minsc]

Just watch those old FFT PSP trailers. same deal.

Well trailers showing off the interface is what I'd be most interested in (and official confirmation that they didn't re-do all the artwork for the 960x640 retina display). But at least they confirmed they are making it like Song Summoner, and not some awkward overlay with 8 buttons taking up half the screen.

 

[Kodiak]

Well trailers showing off the interface is what I'd be most interested in (and official confirmation that they didn't re-do all the artwork for the 960x640 retina display). But at least they confirmed they are making it like Song Summoner, and not some awkward overlay with 8 buttons taking up half the screen.

I hadn't heard that. that's good news. will buy.

 

[Minsc]

I hadn't heard that. that's good news. will buy.

Yea, I picked that info from here:

The new "War of the Lions" edition will include some extra features for those who have slashed through it before somewhere else. Iwano even went as far as to say that he thinks this new version will be the best so far (big surprise).

"We customized the playability for iPhone," Iwano explaioned. "Even though I always thought that the touch screen was a better fit for Simulation RPGs over a controller, I was concerned by the screen size of iPhone since it looks too small to play the game comfortably. However, we learned so much about utilizing the small screen size of iPhone developing Song Summoner, and I can confidently present 'Final Fantasy Tactics' for iPhone as the ''Final Fantasy Tactics' with the most comfortable playability.'"

Hopefully he's not lying about it :lol

Edit: Says it will have some new features for those who've been though the game before too! Just noticed that. Since I haven't played since the original FF:T, this version should actually have a decent amount of extra content, if the PSP version has some extra content, on top of this version also having extra content.

 

[Tobor]

Unlikely:

The app's been updated since that review was written. It works now. Anand needs to update his review.

 

[japtor]

Thanks man

Do you happen to know how big of an improvement the IPS screen is regarding colors? I've been working with an IPS panel for some months now and the difference is noticable to me now almost to the point that I don't want to go back. I didn't even know the ipod had an IPS panel so I won't mind getting that model!

edit, might as well put this in too. I have a new itouch 8g sitting with me now as a test model. It was 160 euros in price, any way to check what gen it is without connecting to itunes? No cameras too

From what I've read the new screens appear to be better than any of the previous screens (color wise) outside of the iPhone 4. So unless you're willing to sign up for a phone contract or pay 800 or whatever euros for an unlocked one you won't get IPS, but it'll basically be the next best thing in the (small side of the) iDevice line.

If it's 8GB with no cameras it's a 2nd gen at best, 3rd gen only came in 32 and 64GB. If it has a chrome bezel on the front it's a 2nd gen, if it's a black bezel it's 1st gen (the worst iDevice of all in every single way).

 

[Seagoon]

Is it possible to gift people apps (like you can with Steam)?

I've ordered an iPod Touch and was really looking forward to playing Civilization Revolution only to find out that it is not available in my region (much like Steam :lol )

 

[Remy]

Is it possible to gift people apps (like you can with Steam)?

I've ordered an iPod Touch and was really looking forward to playing Civilization Revolution only to find out that it is not available in my region (much like Steam :lol )

It's absolutely possible to gift apps (click the little triangle menu and find the Gift option), but I don't believe you can cross-region. You'd have to make a freebie account in the region that you wanted to be gifted in.

 

[Lan_97]

Not sure if they have been mentioned before but I've been playing these games a fair amount this weekend.

http://appshopper.com/games/solomons-boneyard

http://appshopper.com/games/tappi-bear-all-in-1

And by a fair amount I mean hours on Solomon's Boneyard. The Tappi Bear games can be found online as free flash games, but the games work really well on iPhone, and it has GC support.

 

[asdad123]

Are there any free apps (or without a monthly fee) that let you watch live tv? Mostly CBS, Fox, ABC. Trying to watch some football when I'm not home lol.

Running a jailbroken Iphone 4.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

So has anyone been able to confirm that Cave games will run on a 4th Gen iPod Touch?

There's an article on Pocketgamer claiming that DoDonPachi won't. And the response I got when I emailed Cave was "we don't know yet."

 

[Ledsen]

Some people reported they can't play the epic demo on the ipod touch 2g and 3g :/. Ugh, now I'm even more confused

I was talking about the new iPod Touches, obviously the old ones have very different specs.

Well that's that then! Epic Citadel's officially the first game to actually use more than 256MBs of RAM, and it's probably going to be the last one for quite a while! Any chance of getting a comparison screenshot from each device (iPhone 4, 4th Gen Touch, iPad)?

Developing for the iOS is becoming more and more like Windows gaming with the wide variety of hardware to support (though I guess it's not as bad as Android's various hardware & resolution models), especially if the new 2nd gen iPad has 512MB of RAM and comes out Q1 2011 like rumored.

Well if the iPhone 4 goes to Verizon and T-Mobile next year, and the new iPad also has 512MB of RAM, that might push the odds of seeing games using all that RAM to a small bit higher.

I think realistically you won't see any games that don't work on 256MB devices, just games that scale back textures or whatever like Epic Citadel does.

It's so weird that one provider has monopoly on the iPhone in the US. How did that happen? Here in Sweden, all the 5 biggest providers sell it, and the fierce competition is forcing them to have pretty awesome deals on subscriptions.

 

[Macho Madness]

I was talking about the new iPod Touches, obviously the old ones have very different specs.



It's so weird that one provider has monopoly on the iPhone in the US. How did that happen? Here in Sweden, all the 5 biggest providers sell it, and the fierce competition is forcing them to have pretty awesome deals on subscriptions.

AT&T made Apple a very generous offer to keep it exclusive most likely. Fortunately however, it seems that it is ending.

 

[LaneDS]

Yea, I picked that info from here:



Hopefully he's not lying about it :lol

Edit: Says it will have some new features for those who've been though the game before too! Just noticed that. Since I haven't played since the original FF:T, this version should actually have a decent amount of extra content, if the PSP version has some extra content, on top of this version also having extra content.

Really hoping all of that pans out. I'd like FFT to be the first game on the platform that I invest a serious amount of time in (y'know, besides Angry Birds).

Anyone have any updates on Sword and Sorcery? Seems like it's been a long time since I've heard anything on that one.

 

[YagizY]

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

 

[Shaneus]

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

No. Do some research. If we recommend some games and they turn out to be shit or not your type or whatever, you'll hate GAF.

GAF does not want this. Seriously. Do some legwork.

 

[rocksolidaudio]

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

drop 7
tilt to live
doodlejump
spider
eliss

 

[Salacious Crumb]

Yeah i've tried Epic Citadel on iPhone 4, new Touch and iPad. The iPhone 4 is definitely superior. Textures and frame rate take a hit on the other 2, must be a side effect of the lower RAM

I couldn't perceive any difference in texture quality, the only thing I noticed was that the touch would drop a couple of frames every now and then, maybe it has to stream textures more aggressively or something, maybe? I have no clue about the tech behind the game.

All I can tell you is the textures looked exactly the same to me and my friends, and the screen on the touch is actually surprisingly good, the only thing really noticeably worse than the iphone 4 are the viewing angles and the black levels.

 

[YagizY]

No. Do some research. If we recommend some games and they turn out to be shit or not your type or whatever, you'll hate GAF.

GAF does not want this. Seriously. Do some legwork.

I've filtered through the high scoring stuff on ign but I was wondering if their was lesser known stuff that is considered to be a must have. I've pretty much ignored that fact that games exist on ipods at this point so I really know nothing.

 

[japtor]

It's so weird that one provider has monopoly on the iPhone in the US. How did that happen? Here in Sweden, all the 5 biggest providers sell it, and the fierce competition is forcing them to have pretty awesome deals on subscriptions.

Part of it is kinda this:

AT&T made Apple a very generous offer to keep it exclusive most likely. Fortunately however, it seems that it is ending.

Supposedly Apple actually went to Verizon first but got turned down (for various reasons), then AT&T (Cingular back then) took them up on the deal.

The other part is the cellular spectrum stuff kinda sucks here. Verizon and Sprint (and a few smaller networks that I think lease from them) are CDMA so Apple would have to make a separate phone to work on their networks. AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM, but T-Mo has some weird 3G frequency use that isn't used much in the world, while AT&T uses the same stuff most of the world uses, hence one model working everywhere.

Next year is a kind of possible perfect storm, the AT&T exclusivity deal is supposedly up and LTE (GSM's 4G basically) is rolling out, particularly Verizon. If LTE (and/or GSM/LTE+CDMA) hardware is available it gives the possibility to stick with making a single phone for everyone.

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

Dodonpachi Resurrection and Espgaluda II. The hell with any three other games.

No. Do some research. If we recommend some games and they turn out to be shit or not your type or whatever, you'll hate GAF.

GAF does not want this. Seriously. Do some legwork.

But this too, like if you hate vertical shooters my suggestions are meaningless!

 

[Echoes]

I've filtered through the high scoring stuff on ign but I was wondering if their was lesser known stuff that is considered to be a must have. I've pretty much ignored that fact that games exist on ipods at this point so I really know nothing.

There you go buddy, a nice variety of genres;

MonsterDash: pretty awesome run-and-gun Canabalt-style. 1$
Quell: a very relaxing puzzler with great original piano tracks. 2$
Carcassonne: probably the best boards game I ever played & my favorite iPhone game. 5$
StarDunk: arcade gaming never felt as good. 2$
Tabbi Bear All in 1: It's five games for the price of one, for a limited time. So awesome and the value is great. 1$

 

[IceMarker]

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

Sword of Fargoal, Real Racing, PvZ, Canabalt, and Robocalypse

 

[McBacon]

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

Space Miner
Dodonpachi Resurrection
I Dig It
Sword & Poker 2
Phoenix Wright

 

[Jonnyram]

Dodonpachi Resurrection
Eliss
Carcassonne
Flight Control
Zen Bound 2

 

[Ledsen]

Part of it is kinda this:

Supposedly Apple actually went to Verizon first but got turned down (for various reasons), then AT&T (Cingular back then) took them up on the deal.

The other part is the cellular spectrum stuff kinda sucks here. Verizon and Sprint (and a few smaller networks that I think lease from them) are CDMA so Apple would have to make a separate phone to work on their networks. AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM, but T-Mo has some weird 3G frequency use that isn't used much in the world, while AT&T uses the same stuff most of the world uses, hence one model working everywhere.

Next year is a kind of possible perfect storm, the AT&T exclusivity deal is supposedly up and LTE (GSM's 4G basically) is rolling out, particularly Verizon. If LTE (and/or GSM/LTE+CDMA) hardware is available it gives the possibility to stick with making a single phone for everyone.

Sounds good for you guys, hope it happens

 

[Minsc]

So has anyone been able to confirm that Cave games will run on a 4th Gen iPod Touch?

There's an article on Pocketgamer claiming that DoDonPachi won't. And the response I got when I emailed Cave was "we don't know yet."

Well, they run on a 3rd gen iPod Touch don't they? So it's just a matter of time.

So I finally joined the Ipod Touch crowd. I got the newest 32gb one. Can you guys list 5 must have games? I already plan on getting Plants vs. Zombies and Canabalt. What else?

Carcassonne (this is amazing if you like strategy board games, great even if you don't)
Sword & Poker 2 (poker with an awesome RPG twist)
Drop 7 (turn-based tetris-level addicting puzzler)
Espgaluda 2 / DonDonPachi (though in some ways I prefer the challenge and price of R-Type)
Final Fantasy Tactics (due out this week)
and Defender Chronicles (if your TD enjoyment goes beyond just PvZ)