For those who have Samsung: does HDR work in game mode?
Yes.
For those who have Samsung: does HDR work in game mode?
You're welcome
Let me know what you think, didn't seem to make much difference to me, although I was only running round the camp on the 20 years later part.
The P-Series works with HDR on the PS4 Pro and has since the latest firmware to be released (2.2.7.4).I'm scared seeing how my Vizio P-Series still has issues regarding the HDR with the Xbox One S, gonna see if my TV will work with the PS4.
Nothing's stopping you from enjoying HDR on the PS4.Vizio needs to get their shit together so I can play this, Gears, and Forza in HDR.
Am I going insane here?!Washed out image on my Vizio P55-C1. Apparently Vizio does not support HDR for gaming (Xbox One S or PS4). Next update should fix that.
I must be!It's been a mess on the Vizio P-series... and it can't even display HDR games for some reason, which seems utterly ridiculous to me. Supposedly an update coming out soon will allow it
Yep, I'm clearly mental.Guys , you have to go to your PS4 settings and turn on Full RGB for HDR to work properlly. Otherwise if its to Automatic, it will stay in limited color range on PS4.
Also Make sure your TV HDMI outputs Full HDR color output.
how is it even possible for the PS4 to do HDR without HDMI 2.0 ? It's kinda HDR or what ?
how is it even possible for the PS4 to do HDR without HDMI 2.0 ? It's kinda HDR or what ?
Sony confirmed that it's Hdr10, I guess they upgraded to 2.0a through a firmware update.
http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2016/09/07/playstation-4-update-will-make-every-console-hdr-compatible
They still need the hardware to display HDR thoughok so TV manufacturer are lying to us to sell new TVs when they could upgrade past TVs with firmware update...
The P-Series works with HDR on the PS4 Pro and has since the latest firmware to be released (2.2.7.4).
Nothing's stopping you from enjoying HDR on the PS4.
Am I going insane here?!
I must be!
Yep, I'm clearly mental.
RGB settings needn't be changed from "Automatic" to get HDR on the PS4. Automatic works fine, so I'm not entirely sure why you're peddling this inaccuracy.
I had the same issue with DX
Also Make sure your TV HDMI outputs Full HDR color output.
I'm fairly certain that comparison shots won't work to communicate the difference.
Without resorting to off-screen photos this is the best way I've come up with for showing the difference on an SDR screen, simulated via using photography mode and turning down the exposure until only highlights were left. (...sorry about the twitter compression)
The automatic switch to 20 backlight on the ks8000 doesn't work in game mode. It's an oversight or bug in the current firmware, so you'll have to do that manually. It should do that in movie mode though.
Wait the screenshots currently can't take HDR screenshots too?We need an update to JPEG and PNG with HDR support.
Here are a bunch of HDR on and off screen captures using the share function. Usual disclaimer applies, non-hdr screens etc
Anyway, I much prefer the colors of the hdr mode as opposed to non-hdr which look way too saturated in my opinion. And I never had a problem with them before.
HDR off:
HDR on:
HDR off:
HDR on:
I also feel ripped off by Sony. They could just update my PS4 OG to Pro level capabilities with a firmware update. Liarsok so TV manufacturer are lying to us to sell new TVs when they could upgrade past TVs with firmware update...
Nah, additional metadata for HDR needs to be supplied. I don't think any still image format supports this (yet). But I might be wrong, I have never edited/graded any HDR content at this point in time.Wait the screenshots currently can't take HDR screenshots too?
We need an update to JPEG and PNG with HDR support.
Wait the screenshots currently can't take HDR screenshots too?
Ok a few more, this time with RGB Full
Non HDR
HDR
Non HDR
HDR
I think the Rtings info is outdated. They fixed this in a later firmware; Auto should pretty much always be used. In the testing that I did, Native DRASTICALLY over-saturates color on SDR content, while on HDR content it dulls colors a bit.
AVS member King Richard is really knowledgable about this and has written several FAQs, so I trust his opinion on the matter:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...00-ks8500-owners-thread-181.html#post47369793
Wait the screenshots currently can't take HDR screenshots too?
That doesn't sound right. Taking a picture with a smartphone even with HDR+ on would just be doing the same job as the game engine was originally before HDR TVs, mapping the wide dynamic range to a narrower one. The smartphone just uses a different, more subtle algorithm. What the HDR TVs are doing is giving us something closer to the scene before a game engine or smartphone does the tonemap, and the missing contrast is vital to that.Not without running a tone mapping pass which will shrink the HDR data into the usual LDR storage. This is quite similar to what photography HDR is doing, and I'm still puzzled why people keep saying that you can't get a pretty accurate representation of HDR image on an LDR display - you can, when you make a photo of HDR TV with a "HDR+" mode of your smartphone for example, you get a pretty accurate representation. What's missing is the contrast ratio and some color detail but it's not critical to actually seeing the benefits. Actually, this thread proves it.
Problem is that if you want to make a screenshot of a HDR game to view it later on a HDR TV/monitor exactly like it was taken - you're out of luck as JPG/PNG can't store the deep color information. Basically a JPG/PNG capture of a HDR game is an LDR capture.
Another problem is that in an ideal world such picture should be viewable on both HDR and LDR displays and that means that either the format or the viewer must perform a runtime tone mapping pass when showing the image on an LDR screen. And by "viewer" here I mostly mean Web browser.
We're still in the very early days of HDR, a lot of stuff is either missing or not working properly.
I just played a few sections at my friends house on his lg c6. Damn it looks good. Any scene with fire, or a window with light shining through looks crazy.
This is ridiculous. Sony must be laughing all the way to the bank with this crap. There's virtually no difference. And, what little difference there is is neither better or worse. Has it really come to this?
It's was a great looking game on PS3 and is still a great looking game on PS4, regardless.
woah woah woah ....u check your eyes? there is a difference, shit even watching movies with HDR 4k looks good ....
This is ridiculous. Sony must be laughing all the way to the bank with this crap. There's virtually no difference. And, what little difference there is is neither better or worse. Has it really come to this?
It's was a great looking game on PS3 and is still a great looking game on PS4, regardless.
are serious right now?
Ahh I was trying to find differences last night after work but I couldn't personally see them myself. Then again, I just got out of the Bill's trap and in the bar so there isn't too much lighting going on outside the windows. Was too tired to progress through the game. Also, only have an 8bit panel so it isn't true HDR.
From what I did notice, game does look more natural. I prefer it over the HDR off option.
also is there a way to get rid of this stupid film grain crap or is it just my tv.
Ahh I was trying to find differences last night after work but I couldn't personally see them myself. Then again, I just got out of the Bill's trap and in the bar so there isn't too much lighting going on outside the windows. Was too tired to progress through the game. Also, only have an 8bit panel so it isn't true HDR.
From what I did notice, game does look more natural. I prefer it over the HDR off option.
also is there a way to get rid of this stupid film grain crap or is it just my tv.
I noticed the film grain shows up on mine when I change the device source type to anything other than PC.
On my Samsung i can hit Tools on the Input when I bring up the source menu and change it to PC. that disables all post processing done by the display
Ahh I was trying to find differences last night after work but I couldn't personally see them myself. Then again, I just got out of the Bill's trap and in the bar so there isn't too much lighting going on outside the windows. Was too tired to progress through the game. Also, only have an 8bit panel so it isn't true HDR.
From what I did notice, game does look more natural. I prefer it over the HDR off option.
also is there a way to get rid of this stupid film grain crap or is it just my tv.
How did you 2 get film grain effect?
No idea, never seen it on my TV before. It only shows up when I enable HDR in TLOU, but even when I go back to the ps4 menu/XMB the grain is still there and doesn't leave until I turn HDR off
No idea, never seen it on my TV before. It only shows up when I enable HDR in TLOU, but even when I go back to the ps4 menu/XMB the grain is still there and doesn't leave until I turn HDR off
This is ridiculous. Sony must be laughing all the way to the bank with this crap. There's virtually no difference. And, what little difference there is is neither better or worse.