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The Metal Gear Solid Master Collection isn’t a native 1080p on PS5/XSX. It’s just 720p upconverted to 1080p.
Absolutely.
In emulation, MGS2 and 3 look the absolute best at 1.5 x resolution, 8x AA and all the post processing effects (dof, bloom, particles) intact.
TGO
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keepthemeyesopen
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To each his own. I don't think your giving the graphics credit that they still hold up even at higher resolutions. To say it doesn't do anything to the presentation other than break certain things is beside the point. Those things can be fixed if the dev wanted to. What it does do to the presentation is significantly eliminate aliasing making objects and characters look much smoother. Which helps a lot considering it takes place in the jungle.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Uuuuggghhhh. Wtf
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The only difference is anti aliasing, you only getting them due to the lower resolution and looks worse on a HD screen
But you prefer jagged edges?
you must be the guy who prefers the PS2 version of Max Payne 2
Killer8
Member
It's 720p on Series X because it's just emulating the X360 code.
I played through the HD Collection last year on Series X and thought they still looked excellent on a 4K TV, despite the resolution. I think while it's somewhat disappointing they couldn't get these running at 4K, for whatever reason, the games still look very good in plain HD.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
The bottom one way better. It has dithering and lower res helps to hide it's original flaws. All these pixelated and blurry techniques were made to make the game look better.
You were never supposed to look at the game as if it was pixelated. It never was. It was filtered through rudimentary aa, dithering and viewed on crt tv.
The fact that we are getting all these boomer shooter and pixel art games nowadays is just plain wrong. Most of the games back then tried not to be pixelated. And these flaws became visible on lcd monitors.
Running MGS1 at lower res like 720p or internal 480p and then bilinear stretching it to 4k is IMO the correct choice.
If You integer "pixel-perfect" scaled 480p to 4k, yes, the pixels would be sharp and correct but also the pixels would be huge. 16x more so... or something like that.
If You run... lets say Max Payne 2 at 720p and integer scale it to 4k, it will be pixelated. Because every pixel is repeated in 2 directions 8 times(maybe, no math here lol). But you can check it yourself.
But if YOu run Max Payne 2 at 720p and let it stretch, it will look fine. I personally would replay MP2 just at 4k.
MP2 is a pc/ps2 game. The fidelity is high enough that 4k is not hurting it like older ps1 games.
The last time I played MP2 was about in 2020 like this. After which I replaced my 4k ips with oled and it's finally a good enough screen to replace crt for me.
Lucifers Beard
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You spelt 'top' wrong. It looks way better without the warped looking textures and aliasing.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Therein lies the problem, we ain't playing them on a CRT
And I agree I hate Pixel Art games
TGO
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They haven't deleted his Name, he shows up for every game credits that he did before.
He just isn't in the separate Master Collection Credits because he wasn't involved.
Drizzlehell
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If this was a Konami joint it would've been a complete fucking disaster and you know it.
The Pleasure
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Esppiral
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Check your eyesight asap.
Esppiral
Member
I mean, that appart from playing the BC hd collection I can Emulate them on Xbox at 4k using Duckstation and PCSX2....
Games of Today
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These companies are fucking pathetic. I could hire a 13 year old to give me on of these games in a higher resolution.
Neff
Member
Exactly. The aspect ratio is borked on the top image for one thing and the lack of dithering does it no favours.
MAX PAYMENT
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16:9 patch for some PS1 games, does it animorphic style.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Ah. Well we'd need to see that image displayed correctly to make a proper comparison
Krappadizzle
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That's what bugs me so much about this. In of itself, it's a great package. But it should be a celebration and have the care and love the series deserves, especially for these 3 specific titles. And Konami had to taint the whole thing by half-assing the most basic prerequisite of todays standards.
StreetsofBeige
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Surrag
Neo Member
PS1 games need filters to make them look good on Emulators, you should never just upscale the resolution on these games, they will not look good like PS2 or PS3 games.
This is a good example of correct settings for a PS1 game on high resolution, using filters and 16:9 aspect ratio.
You don't need a CRT TV.
This is a good example of correct settings for a PS1 game on high resolution, using filters and 16:9 aspect ratio.
You don't need a CRT TV.
Pipoqueiro
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playting now, 1080p not 720
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Sojiro
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Snake turned into Slenderman.
Silver Wattle
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I think people saying "resolution won't make the game better" are missing the point; a PS5 is so much more powerful than the PS3 which runs these basically identically that they could be running these games at 8k 120FPS if they wanted to, but a 4k60fps start should be super easy to achieve on the PS5.
Offering filters/mods/enhancements would be incredible, but the minimum should be 4k@60fps.
Offering filters/mods/enhancements would be incredible, but the minimum should be 4k@60fps.
kruis
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Nope. It runs at 720p and is upscaled to 1080p. It can be modded to run at higher resolutions, but it can break post processing.
It took a modder just hours to add 4K support to the Metal Gear Solid collection
MGS1 and MGS2 are locked at 720p on PC, but getting them to run at higher resolutions has turned out to be trivial with a mod.
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daninthemix
Member
I mean, I dropped in the modded executable and now I'm playing MGS3 at 4k60 without issue.
The lack of options is dumb (also - why bother creating a launcher when you're not actually offering any options??) but this is a lot easier to run than the HD Collection emulated in Xenia or RPCS3, and I'm not really encountering any issues at all. It's literally just MGS3 at 4k60.
Bry0
Member
Yeah, I think it just shows how silly the port job is more than anything. Glad the mods are working well!
They do break some effects like dof and ui so they aren’t perfect though.
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StereoVsn
Member
Oh, wait that’s already there? What about any enhancements for the first two games through mods?
daninthemix
Member
No idea, I'm only interested in MGS3 as MGS1 and 2 already had decent PC-native ports that are fixed via mods.
Shifty1897
Member
So they squeezed out a turd port of MGS1-3 with Kojima's name removed (the disrespect!).
Why is anyone buying this?
Why is anyone buying this?
dotnotbot
Member
His name wasn't removed
Shifty1897
Member
Thanks for the correction, I read it on here and didn't fact check when I should have.
Bojji
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Nope. It runs at 720p and is upscaled to 1080p. It can be modded to run at higher resolutions, but it can break post processing.
It took a modder just hours to add 4K support to the Metal Gear Solid collection
MGS1 and MGS2 are locked at 720p on PC, but getting them to run at higher resolutions has turned out to be trivial with a mod.www.pcgamer.com
With this fix this collection has the best PC versions of MGS2 and 3, it's much lighter to run than trough emulator and much better than that terrible MGS2 port from 2003. Of course people need to fix games for themselves, something that multi milion dollar Konami can't do...
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