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The Swindle |OT| Spelunky meets cyber-steampunk Thief
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More_Badass
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For real this time, as well as GOG and GMG
Sir_Crocodile
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Hyped for this, the dev's "ben and dan" point & click games are for me hands down the funniest point & click games since the lucasarts golden age, and amongst the best technically as well.
Very interested to see what they do with the platform/puzzle genre.
Very interested to see what they do with the platform/puzzle genre.
More_Badass
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coredecepts
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Yesss, downloading now.
I wonder if theres a plus discount coming
More_Badass
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Had a mod change the title
bennywhatever
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That was a very well made launch trailer.
More_Badass
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Only got a chance to play two heists, but solid impressions so far.
I especially like how it gives a short quick (but cool) framework and just thrusts you into the action. The art style is lovely
I especially like how it gives a short quick (but cool) framework and just thrusts you into the action. The art style is lovely
Hey, it is a pretty nice trailer! I bet some NeoGAF member "swindled" the developer into letting them make that trailer.
More_Badass
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Sadly I am finding the PS4 suffers the same unresponsive controls. It just feels imprecise. Especially trying to initiate a jump around a spike pit. It's like you slip into it instead of jumping and die immediately.
I hope it gets fixed. Everything about the game is wonderful it just needs better controls.
I hope it gets fixed. Everything about the game is wonderful it just needs better controls.
More_Badass
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Added the links for PS3 & PS4
Yeah, I've noticed jumping being a bit dodgy around spike pits, and slipping in while standing on the edge too. I've taken to starting a jump from a bit further away and using the double/triple jump to make it over, but it does feel imprecise.
I find it a bit odd that a wall jump is higher than a normal jump too- if you can't make it to a ledge, it's like you can slide down the ledge below you to end up jumping higher!
Yeah I tweeted @danthat about it. Maybe if others do too, he will look into?
I tweeted this to him, too: http://bit.ly/1HZR0k3 (basically every time I fall down I'm jumping before I leave the ledge.
Also earlier I had a side of a map I couldn't get back home from. And I just now had a procedurally generated map I couldn't even get into. (I need a hack door I guess, but there's a wasted day....)
Incendiary
Banned
This looks pretty awesome - any game that gets comparisons to Spelunky is a must-look for me. The heist aspect also seems like t would be right up my alley. Subscribing to the thread as a reminder to myself to check this out when I get home.
TheSonofBM
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does the vita version use the analog stick or d-pad? My stick went bad recently so I need to be careful what I buy now. Geometry wars 3 was a real bummer 
coredecepts
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You can use either the left stick or the d-pad. It supports both.
More_Badass
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I'm surprised there aren't many more reviews
But it's nice to see that the game is on Steam's Top Sellers list
But it's nice to see that the game is on Steam's Top Sellers list
TheSonofBM
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Thank you. Downloading now. Hopefully can quell this Binding of Isaac addiction.
More_Badass
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I've passed on a lot of interesting looking games so far this generation due to the lack of trials or demos. That stuff was wonderful for hooking me in on XBLA games on the 360.
Shame. It's a loss for both the dev/publisher and for me, but I just don't like hopping in blind. Reviews and impressions are great, but nothing compares to trying something yourself. Even a short demo can help to discern some harder-to-describe elements of how a game "feels" to control. That is essential in a platformer, and I'm very hesitant to throw down non-refundable money only to be disappointed.
More_Badass
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Steam has refunds now if you're into PC games
apieceofstrange
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Are these input issues exclusive to the PS version? I was planning on buying this on PSN for cross play, but if it has inferior controls I'll just buy on Steam I guess.
Same on PC. Nearly every major review I read also mentions the controls not being so great.
Turnstyle
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Quite a few niggles that will hopefully be patched. On top of the ones mentioned, I noticed it's impossible to defuse a mine placed at the bottom of some steps, as you slowly slide down towards it.
Has anyone worked out the wall burrowing thing? Sometimes you can scrabble through the wall up to a higher section, but I can't see any reasoning or method behind it. On a couple of occasions I got trapped in the wall and had to terminate the thief. Maybe it's a bug? Try jumping into some corners and you'll see what I mean.
Has anyone worked out the wall burrowing thing? Sometimes you can scrabble through the wall up to a higher section, but I can't see any reasoning or method behind it. On a couple of occasions I got trapped in the wall and had to terminate the thief. Maybe it's a bug? Try jumping into some corners and you'll see what I mean.
Yeah, I hope that a standardized refund process for digital games makes its way to consoles sooner than later. My PC bit the dust last week, unfortunately.
mediapulp_wes
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Love this game, but man is it brutal sometimes. Scratch that...man is it brutal a lot!
Looks really interesting, tempted for vita - the negative reviews on the steam page mention sluggish controls though and that is a bit offputting. It's got a mostly positive rating at the moment though, but that seemed to be the most common talking point amongst the negative ones.
Seeing the posts here mention the same thing...I'll grab this on vita if they improve the controls enough that they're enjoyable.
Seeing the posts here mention the same thing...I'll grab this on vita if they improve the controls enough that they're enjoyable.
GroundCombo
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The controls are definitely a bit clunky and not nearly as precise as, for example, Mark of the Ninja. I got somewhat used to it after a few dozen heists (attempts, rather - the game is HARD), but I still get the occasional wtf-death that can be attributed to the control scheme. It's been fun so far, though. It's going to take some time to figure out which upgrades to take early on and when to move to the next area.
Dog Problems
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Rock, Paper, Shotgun posted a Wot I Think review.
coredecepts
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My complaints so far are a few bugs that really fuck with my ability to enjoy the game (random teleporting and getting caught out of nowhere) and level layouts that make it impossible to collect all the money or are just plain hateful.
The controls take some getting used to, and they could be improved.
Games like this should have perfect controls and be tough but fair. Some of the toughness in The Swindle is not at all fair.
The controls take some getting used to, and they could be improved.
Games like this should have perfect controls and be tough but fair. Some of the toughness in The Swindle is not at all fair.
Spelunky, you say? Thief, you say?
I load the game up at 6pm and begin playing.
At 9.40pm I decide to call it a night. Whole thing felt like 20 minutes.
The control gripes are minor imo (I think controlling with D-pad is far easier than joystick) and you don't need to 100% every level, so exercising discretion or playing it safe is sometimes a valid choice. I even had a few moments where I simply checked all of a building's entrances, went 'nope', and left with £0. But that was fine. If i had better gear - and had done better on previous attempts - I'd be casing the joint easily.
The skill tree is fucking great and abilities/gadgets are locked behind huge financial gains. The risk/reward levels are phenomenal and sense of progression is brilliant because there are such large steps between the abilities.
I have 16 days/attempts left before game over, but I couldn't care less about having to restart (if that is what happens at day 0). The thought of going back to day 100 with all my knowledge and abilities actually sounds appealing.
I love this game. It's a 19/20 from me.
I load the game up at 6pm and begin playing.
At 9.40pm I decide to call it a night. Whole thing felt like 20 minutes.
The control gripes are minor imo (I think controlling with D-pad is far easier than joystick) and you don't need to 100% every level, so exercising discretion or playing it safe is sometimes a valid choice. I even had a few moments where I simply checked all of a building's entrances, went 'nope', and left with £0. But that was fine. If i had better gear - and had done better on previous attempts - I'd be casing the joint easily.
The skill tree is fucking great and abilities/gadgets are locked behind huge financial gains. The risk/reward levels are phenomenal and sense of progression is brilliant because there are such large steps between the abilities.
I have 16 days/attempts left before game over, but I couldn't care less about having to restart (if that is what happens at day 0). The thought of going back to day 100 with all my knowledge and abilities actually sounds appealing.
I love this game. It's a 19/20 from me.
Savantcore
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Played for about an hour or two. It's fun, but different to what I was expecting. I didn't realise it was randomly generated, for instance, and I'm finding the lack of initial instructions pretty frustrating. I'm not even going to say how long it took me to realise how to open doors. As others have mentioned, the controls feel pretty awkward on PS4. Wall-jump especially is a major pain to carry out accurately.
The randomly generated levels are a real killer though. I hate going into a level and finding things that I'm totally unprepared for and can't deal with. I wouldn't mind normally, but considering that the whole point of the game is that you have a deadline and need to make the most out of each run, it's very annoying. So far, I think I prefer Counterspy for my randomly generated, sneaky-heist action.
The randomly generated levels are a real killer though. I hate going into a level and finding things that I'm totally unprepared for and can't deal with. I wouldn't mind normally, but considering that the whole point of the game is that you have a deadline and need to make the most out of each run, it's very annoying. So far, I think I prefer Counterspy for my randomly generated, sneaky-heist action.
phantomspiker
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Turnstyle
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When you reach the end of the 100 days and start again,
you lose all your abilities and have to start from scratch.
Nose Master
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Sure would be nice if the PS4 PS Store would let me buy something without it being laggy and shitty.
I know that, and i'm fine with it.
The game's very like Spelunky in that your own development and skill set matters almost as much as your gear. I'm on world 4 now and if i had to start from scratch i'd catch up in no time because i know the systems and my move set really well. I find the idea appealing.
I love this aspect. It means you have to learn the game by playing and observing rather than reading tutorials or learning levels. They just throw you in there. It's brilliant imo. Did you play Spelunky? Very similar games. Spelunky is also phenomenal but personally i'm preferring the long-form development and strategy of Swindle. It's got a far nicer risk/reward balance to its system and i like the long-term permadeath over Spelunky's 'one mistake and your whole run's fucked' style.
Also i think the game dynamically alters difficulty for you. As far as i can tell it adds new elements to each stage/world until you start dying/failing, then it strips them back to make it easier.
Edit: i tried Counterspy but it seemed so simple and weirdly paced, i couldnt get behind it.
Nose Master
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Bought this blind on the gaf recommendation (and Spelunky comparison) after watching a trailer or two.
This is not even close to Spelunky. Being a random generated pseudo-platformer doesn't make it like Spelunky. Spelunky had perfect controls, this very much does not.
Hoping the agility upgrades make it playable, but ugh. Never again.
This is not even close to Spelunky. Being a random generated pseudo-platformer doesn't make it like Spelunky. Spelunky had perfect controls, this very much does not.
Hoping the agility upgrades make it playable, but ugh. Never again.
Icyflamez96
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TheSonofBM
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How is a heist sucessful? I go in, steal some money, and leave. Trying to unlock that hacking tool.
More_Badass
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The Eurogamer review touched on the Spelunky comparisions: procedurally generated platforming, the addicting risk vs reward nature of the gameplay, how success comes not from learning levels but adapting on the fly and your own skills, and the way all the different elements of the game interlock and link together in interesting and unique ways