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[Dictator93]

Yeah i do see animations transitioning, maybe because i have a trained eye for it.

Do you animate or model characters for a living? You mentioned it in your post.

I mean, I can see what you mean as I mentioned, I am justn ot sure (since it is but one .gif), if that is just the actress being amateur (which would not surprise me) or if the transitions between set states is more fixed.

You are wrong about the standard then.

Yeah, the standard is probably like Dying Light / Far Cry / Call of Duty kind of stuff. Things like RotR, the Order, and UC4 among others represent a higher standard that is not the norm.

 

[Vital Tundra]

Damn that subtlety is on another level!

 

[foxbeldin]

Do you animate or model characters for a living? You mentioned it in your post.

Yes. I'm mostly about cg cartoons but i do have an experience working on a big AAA french motion captured videogame last gen that half of gaf hates and the other half loves. (can't give more clues than that).

 

[Daffy Duck]

It's going to be glorious playing this isn't it?

 

[LostDonkey]

I think the lighting is fantastic.

Hyperbole to the max about the animation though, I don't think it's setting any new standards. I agree with the points about Tomb Raider and the Order- It's not knocking either of them back. They all look comparable in those stakes. Seems like every time something from ND pops up everyone comes out of the woodwork with the best ever, untouchable, on another level etc etc.

Very strange.

 

[TBiddy]

... also found it unsurprising the amount of people down playing and having to compare to other exclusive, things don't ever seem to change or mature.

For every post where you have someone screaming in joy, you'll have someone screaming in pain. It's just the way of the internet. Everything is binary and the only way to counter someone else being happy, is to be angry yourself, and vice versa.

That said, this gif is stunning. Then again, many things look stunning, if you compress an 1080p image to 360p. Let's wait for the final game, before judging.

I think the lighting is fantastic.

Hyperbole to the max about the animation though, I don't think it's setting any new standards. I agree with the points about Tomb Raider and the Order- It's not knocking either of them back. They all look comparable in those stakes. Seems like every time something from ND pops up everyone comes out of the woodwork with the best ever, untouchable, on another level etc etc.

Very strange.

I agree. It looks fantastic, but the hype is sometimes equal to the Beliebers hyping the next album from Bieber.

 

[funkystudent]

Cant wait to see what Doughnut Drake 4 looks like.

So that's not at least as good as that?

I really like the over all look the lack of any wrinkles and blemishes kind of weird me out.


Is that just because its a compressed GIF or does Lara make sure to put a bunch of concealer on before going Raiding?

 

[Dictator93]

Yes. I'm mostly about cg cartoons but i do have an experience working on a big AAA french motion captured videogame last gen that half of gaf hates and the other half loves. (can't give more clues than that).

haha. I think I have a pretty good idea of one of two games that could mean.

Would you say the experience was a wet one or was it more ethereal?

Is that just because its a compressed GIF or does Lara make sure to put a bunch of concealer on before going Raiding?

It is because lara is a minx.

 

[Asd202]

What strike me in that Uncharted 4 gif is how you can see the emotion of Drake it's just amazingly authentic something I can't see in that RoTR or QB gifs.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

What strike me in that Uncharted 4 gif is how you can see the emotion of Drake it's just amazingly authentic something I can't see in that RoTR or QB gifs.

It's all those micro movements that make it feel authentic. They did it brilliantly in TLOU and they're going to be doing it better here.

 

[SilentRob]

That Uncharted gif lookes amazing.

Quantum Break and Rise of the Tomb Raider also look amazing. The Order looks Amazing. Ryse looks amazing.

Games look amazing, you guys. Are you seriously debating right now which wrinkle looks more realistic and why the blinks of one person are better and more natural than the other's? Come on.

 

[Drackhorn]

I don't think there are at this moment other studio's that could do this and at the same time that thought is a bit depressing.

 

[JumpCancel]

My goodness... New standard for animations?

Looks like he had a lapse back into reality.

"Jesus. If I stop adventuring I have to go back to my boring desk job, and paying tax.

Ah shit. Tax..."

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Looks like he had a lapse back into reality.

"Jesus. If I stop adventuring I have to go back to my boring desk job, and paying tax.

Ah shit. Tax..."

It looks like something terrible has happened and he's trying to come to terms with it.

 

[JumpCancel]

It looks like something terrible has happened and he's trying to come to terms with it.

Nah. NaughtyDog were definitely trying to convey Nate's disdain for taxation. Solid work ND, keep it up.

 

[Salty Hippo]

That Uncharted gif lookes amazing.

Quantum Break and Rise of the Tomb Raider also look amazing. The Order looks Amazing. Ryse looks amazing.

Games look amazing, you guys. Are you seriously debating right now which wrinkle looks more realistic and why the blinks of one person are better and more natural than the other's? Come on.

This. To see people in this thread saying one gif is "not even close" to the other is simply mindblowing.

 

[lukeskymac]

Some people are trying too hard... Of course Quantum Break looks impressive, guys.

That Lara, though... I've posted that exact gif before as an example of how unnatural it looked. But, it's Genio, so I'm not surprised.

Are you seriously debating right now which wrinkle looks more realistic and why the blinks of one person are better and more natural than the other's? Come on.

...okay, but this goes too far the other way. Of course we are. Why wouldn't we?

Is that just because its a compressed GIF or does Lara make sure to put a bunch of concealer on before going Raiding?

I've objected to her porcelain doll look since the first teaser. Dunno why some people let it get away with that when they say it's the prettiest game this gen (another thing they're wrong on).

 

[Squozen]

Definitely could use another pass on that left hand. Maybe put some bones in the fingers.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Damn...

Only a month and a bit

 

[Dragon1893]

Honestly I'm not surprised with what ND is achieving. After seeing what they managed on the PS3 with less than half a gig of ram (split into 2 pools to boot), and considering that lack of memory was always their main complaint, this massive increase in ram could only result in great things from them.
Their artists and animators in particular must be having a field day after having such tight constraints removed.

 

[JumpCancel]

I played ROTTR on PC and I was gobsmacked by the detail in character animations. The London cutscene had be stop and recognize how well done facial animations were.

"Oh there is more going on in that UC4 gif"

Is there? They all look fantastic. It ain't leaps and bounds above pal, not objectively.

 

[Insane Metal]

So that's not at least as good as that?

It looks like a very nicely animated doll. Pretty, but unnatural.

 

[aravuus]

It looks like something terrible has happened and he's trying to come to terms with it.

Maybe he realised he's a video game character and that this is the last game of the series

 

[foxbeldin]

Would you say the experience was a wet one or was it more ethereal?

I don't remember because of all the blackouts. If only Jason was around to answer that.

 

[Vaga]

 

[NeoRaider]

I knew that this will turn into another U4 vs. other games thread. lol
It looks amazing, but it's not anything spectacular, new or unseen till now. Let's not exaggerate pls, that happens a lot here.

Edit:

Uncharted 4 animations already beaten before coming out

http://i.imgur.com/kXQ6L4i.gifv

This GIF doesn't even show the best of ROTTR and what it can do.

 

[Sjefen]

 

[OléGunner]

I played ROTTR on PC and I was gobsmacked by the detail in character animations. The London cutscene had be stop and recognize how well done facial animations were.

"Oh there is more going on in that UC4 gif"

Is there? They all look fantastic. It ain't leaps and bounds above pal, not objectively.

At the same time it's just a gif.

We'll be able to choose a more definitive graphics king between all these games when we play the entirety of UC4 because ND are being very cautious with revealing the more crazy environments and set pieces.

You also have to be impressed by what ND are doing on the PS4 in comparison to similar PC games, seeing as we usually hear the PS4 is just a crummy low range PC.

 

[Goose_Se7en]

I knew that this will turn into another U4 vs. other games thread. lol

It looks amazing, but it's not anything spectacular, new or unseen till now. Let's not exaggerate pls, that happens a lot here.

If this is in-game -which I don't doubt- it does look impressive for a console game. I think Uncharted 4 will have the same Gears of War/Uncharted 2 effect where gamers were blown away by the visuals.

 

[eso76]

Yea, those animations are crazy impressive to me and simply the best I've seen.

Here are a couple of other GIFs:

Everything looks bonkers except for Sam's shirt.
Devs should avoid having characters with loose open shirts / jackets etc. because the tech is not there yet to have the loose ends flap the way they should.
Not even ND can do much about this it seems.
When Sam bends or turns, the shirt looks like it's glued to the t shirt beneath, not like it's an independent piece of clothing.
Kinda breaks the illusion.

Aside from that, the gif in the OP is ridiculous.

Problem with ROTTR is Lara's hair looking like a wig especially since she might be covered in dirt, blood and semen but her hair will always looks clean and fluffy.

 

[Ricky_R]

I think it's fair to say that ND are at the forefront of animations, by a good margin. It's not only how well they animate, but how much effort the put into every little detail.

And it's not just cut-scenes. They put the same effort on all gameplay animations. They just excell in that department.

 

[NeoRaider]

If this is in-game -which I don't doubt- it does look impressive for a console game. I think Uncharted 4 will have the same Gears of War/Uncharted 2 effect where gamers were blown away by the visuals.

Sure it looks great and i will always say that it does. Every Uncharted game looked great for the time when it was released.

I just can't stand comments like: "Gods, This is another league, Nothing comes close..."

 

[Bitch Pudding]

So that's not at least as good as that?

No, change your pair of glasses and you'll see for yourself.

 

[Primethius]

I think it's fair to say that ND are at the forefront of animations, by a good margin. It's not only how well they animate, but how much effort the put into every little detail.

And it's not just cut-scenes. They put the same effort on all gameplay animations. They just excell in that department.

Yep. UC4 beta animated better then most games I've played and the only other one that comes to mind that impressed me with gameplay animations recently was MGSV for certain stuff.

 

[Ricky_R]

So that's not at least as good as that?

Haha, you get A for effort.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Ill post a better res one soon, in the meantime

The lighting on faces in the first one really is not as impressive as the second. The skin tones look pretty flat.

 

[Javin98]

The lighting on faces in the first one really is not as impressive as the second. The skin tones look pretty flat.

Perhaps it could be because of completely different lighting conditions? It's literally a night and day difference.

Haha, you get A for effort.

Damn it, man, now that you encourage him, he'll be aiming for an A+ next time.

 

[lukeskymac]

I knew that this will turn into another U4 vs. other games thread. lol
It looks amazing, but it's not anything spectacular, new or unseen till now. Let's not exaggerate pls, that happens a lot here.

Now the party's complete.

This GIF doesn't even show the best of ROTTR and what it can do.

Give us a better example, then.

Everything looks bonkers except for Sam's shirt.
Devs should avoid having characters with loose open shirts / jackets etc. because the tech is not there yet to have the loose ends flap the way they should.
Not even ND can do much about this it seems.
When Sam bends or turns, the shirt looks like it's glued to the t shirt beneath, not like it's an independent piece of clothing.
Kinda breaks the illusion.

Might be because it's a denim jacket. Drake's shirt does flap, for example, and I don't think it's just a protagonist thing because AFAIK it works just like Ellie's ponytail in TLoU, and that was on PS3.

You also have to be impressed by what ND are doing on the PS4 in comparison to similar PC games, seeing as we usually hear the PS4 is just a crummy low range PC.

Well... it is just a crummy low range PC.

The lighting on faces in the first one really is not as impressive as the second. The skin tones look pretty flat.

Lower lighting scenarios always look better. Compare pretty much any Driveclub track between sunny and overcast settings.

 

[piccio_ssl]

I think it's fair to say that ND are at the forefront of animations, by a good margin. It's not only how well they animate, but how much effort the put into every little detail.

And it's not just cut-scenes. They put the same effort on all gameplay animations. They just excell in that department.

ND are the Fumito Ueda of human being characters

 

[NeoRaider]

Give us a better example, then.

I would but it's pretty pointless and not worthy.

 

[eso76]

Might be because it's a denim jacket. Drake's shirt does flap, for example, and I don't think it's just a protagonist thing because AFAIK it works just like Ellie's ponytail in TLoU, and that was on PS3.

haven't seen Drake's shirt, but even then it's generally only the very ends that flap while basically everything that's not resting on his chest should be loose.
Tech s not here yet

 

[Primethius]

Now the party's complete.



Give us a better example, then.



Might be because it's a denim jacket. Drake's shirt does flap, for example, and I don't think it's just a protagonist thing because AFAIK it works just like Ellie's ponytail in TLoU, and that was on PS3.



Well... it is just a crummy low range PC.



Lower lighting scenarios always look better. Compare pretty much any Driveclub track between sunny and overcast settings.

I just had a flashback to the Driveclub "where's the shadow" discussion.

Fun times...

 

[OléGunner]

Well... it is just a crummy low range PC.

Yes I agree with you.

Which makes ND talents and insane work ethic all the more evident.

 

[Nev]

My goodness... New standard for animations?

Holy fuck. That's 100% CGI looking.

 

[Kureransu]

This is realtime....Amazing! Yes it cuts straight to gameplay

This is impressive. Most people don't know what the small details are because they don't really pay attention to proper deformities and the like when people actually move.

What got me with this gif is the fact that he actually gets a small double chin when he tilts his head down. I don't think i've ever seen the skin deform proper like that in a game before. I know it deforms in the gif in the OP when his hands come across it, but for the skin to properly deform in the face doing natural movement is pretty awesome.

Not to mention the subtle parting of the lips when he notices something in the distance. It's something people often unconsciously do.

 

[Ricky_R]

I gotta be honest. I didn't think Drake would be a chin fat kinda guy.

 

[Kureransu]

I gotta be honest. I didn't think Drake would be a chin fat kinda guy.

It's not so much fat as there there is nowhere for the skin to go when you pull your head back or look down, so it starts to bunch up and fold.

 

[OléGunner]

I gotta be honest. I didn't think Drake would be a chin fat kinda guy.

Retired treasure hunter to becoming a paper pusher by the docks-doughnut Drake was inevitable

 

[PR_rambo]

This is realtime....Amazing! Yes it cuts straight to gameplay

That's insane

 

[#1 defender]

I just had a flashback to the Driveclub "where's the shadow" discussion.

Fun times...