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TITANFALL 2 |OT| Don't Misgender Tone.
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Alx
Member
It's the map where you expect your Titan to fall at your feet, but he'll drop at the other end of the map instead.
(it took me time to understand that the areas that looked open actually had a ceiling... and even then I occasionally forget).
It's now a boost, like amped weapons or turrets. One of the last you'll unlock, unless you buy it.
It's that one that makes you want to turn the game off.
Chronospherics
Member
It's a boost. Some guy killed me with one like 6 times in one game yesterday.
It's not a good gun generally but I was using the Mastif shotgun, trying to use agility to get close to get the one-shot kills, the smart pistol puts an end to that very quickly, as it doesn't matter what you're doing, since he does not need to aim.
Annoying in my opinion, but not very powerful against most normal weapons.
Is it the one you can go up on the roof with titans etc?
Discotheque
Banned
what weapons y'all recommend aside from the R-201 and alternator. looking to branch out to something else (preferably automatic or burst)
It has a corridor, a dome, an outside area, an interior complex, and everything is separated by miles of corridors.
Oh ok, I wonder why they made that change. It was a really nice gun for casual players like me.
Alx
Member
That's probably because of all the people complaining about being killed by casual players.
The gun never bothered me too much in TF1 anyway, sure I've been to both ends of cheap kills with it, but everything considered it wasn't that bad, and it was fun to use.
I haven't used it in Titanfall2 yet, since grunt farming seems less prevalent, and less efficient without the grunt detector. I got killed by it only once, as far as I remember.
because mlg pro 1000 gamerscore players like me thinks the smart pistol is so casual it makes me physically sick
Honestly, it's one of the many decisions they made to cater to people that don't even like Titanfall...
got me once
that's when i stopped using him
it explains all the random titan kills I've been getting
Pegasus Actual
Member
I finally started using some Phase Shift today, whereas before I've only ever used it in Coliseum. It's pretty good. With tactikill it pretty much gives you a charge for every kill, which is fantastic. For stim it's like 2 kills will get you mostly there but not quite and yeah....
http://i.imgur.com/GLa3VnC.gifv
Also tried out the Devotion for the first time a bit along with it... I'm not convinced I'm going to call the Devotion good... but can't deny that it's fun as all hell:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Pegasus Actual/video/23225996
And some random goose who was trying to make things hard on me with some arc grenades
http://i.imgur.com/BhDd1TZ.gifv
http://i.imgur.com/GLa3VnC.gifv
Also tried out the Devotion for the first time a bit along with it... I'm not convinced I'm going to call the Devotion good... but can't deny that it's fun as all hell:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Pegasus Actual/video/23225996
And some random goose who was trying to make things hard on me with some arc grenades
http://i.imgur.com/BhDd1TZ.gifv
Hey, so I followed the posts about joining T(itan)GAF but in all these screens I see people rolling with just "GAF" as a tag and I'm wondering if our playerbase is split?
I'd like to play with some GAFfers, either from east Asia or west coast USA, so please point a fellow pilot in the right direction? (My PSN ID is the same as on here.)
I was an Alternator devotee until I unlocked Volt. Feels much more comfortable at various ranges. Still go back to Alty when I'm feeling gangsta.
Also ^^^ those gifs... *phew.jpg*
I'd like to play with some GAFfers, either from east Asia or west coast USA, so please point a fellow pilot in the right direction? (My PSN ID is the same as on here.)
I was an Alternator devotee until I unlocked Volt. Feels much more comfortable at various ranges. Still go back to Alty when I'm feeling gangsta.
Also ^^^ those gifs... *phew.jpg*
I still forget myself. it'd of been nice if they let a little sun come through, create some shadow or somethign indicating an open roof.
thanks for reminding me. i have yet to give that boost a go.
If you like the alternator try out the Volt, it's better. burst? without question the hemlock.
people decided to make things complicated and create all types of "gaf" networks with invites. i recommended just keeping it all the same shit, whatever was used in the beta which was open but noooooo
excaliburps
Press - MP1st.com
Yep, same. I gather, this will get a big boost come Black Friday and Christmas sales. Add in Game of the Year nominations (maybe wins in the shooter category), and that will surely get more mindshare, which most likely equates to sales.
I get what you're saying, but TF2 is the IP's first multi-platform launch. I honestly think expecting it to match CoD/BF1/LOL in terms of Twitch viewers is a little too much.
That said, that is a little low, but it's not indicative of how much a game sells or how active the player population is.From what I've read here, Xbox One has the best player population now, but PS4 is healthy enough as well.
Yep, agreed. Reading through here and even noticing in game, lots of people use a lot of different stuff. Cloak, hook, stim, phase, etc. Just a lot of gun, tactical, etc. mixes. I haven't seen one "god loadout" that everyone must use or just uses every time.
Respawn confirmed it's gone up as well.
Surprised, too. I thought it'd see a significant drop but glad to see it's not the case.Yep, agreed. It's crap close range and if you whiff the initial burst, you're dead. The sign of a well balanced game is when everyone says "X weapon is OP" and that X stands for a LOT of weapons. I've read here that G2, R201, Hemlock, etc. are ALL OP. xD
Are those little fishes?
That's probably because of all the people complaining about being killed by casual players.
The gun never bothered me too much in TF1 anyway, sure I've been to both ends of cheap kills with it, but everything considered it wasn't that bad, and it was fun to use.
I haven't used it in Titanfall2 yet, since grunt farming seems less prevalent, and less efficient without the grunt detector. I got killed by it only once, as far as I remember.
It was never overpowered. It was only good if you saw someone before they saw you. In which case any weapon is good if you have decent aim. The smart pistol just helped those that can't aim for shit (like me).
If you spot the other player at the same time, the smart pistol doesn't lock on fast enough.
Like do Ogres really need to be able to easily instakill Ronin when it's already so easy for them to do it as is? Give me something here, Respawn.
Chronospherics
Member
I think people just get a bit salty being killed by someone that did not need to aim.
I mean in most instances it's pretty fair because you can kill them faster with a regular rifle but still there are occasions where it reduces the value of mobility and movement, allowing players to ignore whatever you're doing.
When I was being killed by it, I was using the Mastiff, and no matter how mobile I was (using stim too) the guy would always hit me. The Mastiff is a bad gun but it still felt cheap, normally the Mastiff is okay if you can out manuever your opponents but the Smart Pistol negates that element of the gameplay.
It's also just less interesting to play with / against. If you're in a gunfight with someone you want them to have the potential to miss just as you do, otherwise there's no potential for clutch plays and whatnot. There's no chance you can use your mobility to get out of a sticky situation if a guy can just look in your general direction and hit you without effort. The time to kill isn't remarkable on the smart pistol, it's just the mechanism that's annoying.
Chronospherics
Member
If anything the low time to kill is the very reason all of the weapons appear balanced, because ultimately it doesn't matter what you're using, target acquisition determines the outcome of an encounter. If you acquire the target first, you are likely to be the one that survives the gunfight, and it doesn't matter if he's using the hemlock and you're using the CAR, both of them kill fast enough that being shot first means you're probably not getting out alive, unless you can cause them to miss with your mobility.
Not saying it should be reduced though. I like the time to kill. I think the time to kill is part of what makes the game so adrenaline fueled, because the higher the time to kill the less chances you have of coming out on top of 2 vs 1 encounters. More emphasis gets placed on team shooting and the impact of the individual is reduced. I think Titanfall 2 thrives on player agency and the notion that any one individual can run through the entire enemy team if they're skilled enough to do so, and that becomes less possible with a higher time to kill.
With that said, I don't think a slight increase would make all that much difference, but it would break the weapon balance. The reason the weapons appear balanced at the moment is because as I say, they all kill in a brief enough time that the target acquisition speed is the determinant of the encounter, not weapon DPS or sustained accuracy. If we had a higher TTK and DPS output became more meaningful then we would see certain weapons become more dominant. I would likely stop using the Volt for instance, as it's low DPS can't be compensated by it's accuracy in sustained gunfights like it can with the current low TTK.
Like I say there are plenty of reasons it's still an issue such as against users using shotguns. The smart pistol negates the mobility advantage they try to gain, and allows people to get essentially free kills on players who are trying to play the games mobility to get into their optimum range. Besides sneaking behind them, how am I supposed to outplay a smart pistol user when using the Mastiff? It just doesn't work, they kill me before I get into shotgun range, regardless of my best efforts to outmanuever their aim.
Against a non smart pistol player I at least have the potential to get into the range I want, and possibly kill them with the shotgun. I can play my mobility game and evade their gunfire. The smart pistol completely shuts that down. So while it doesn't seem so bad against fully automatics, it's bad for the games balance overall and like I said above, it's also bad for situations like 2 vs 1s, as one of the 2 using a smart pistol makes it almost impossible to make it out on top of those encounters.
Tone is a girl, but people automatically refer to the Titans as "he".
OK. Well... At least we will get a new title " soon"
sixpackrules
Member
It´s blowing my mind getting top spots in bounty hunter and amped hardpoint, but then i look and everybody is in double digits in eliminations and under 500 hundred in bounties, i won a game because i was the only one shooting to a titan. I was there taking shoots at the damn titan wondering where everybody was.
Can´t believe how much i´m enjoying the MP, i even won some "duels" jumping all over the place even though and not very good at this MP shooter thing
Can´t believe how much i´m enjoying the MP, i even won some "duels" jumping all over the place even though and not very good at this MP shooter thing
Volt is pretty fun.
Applesauce
Boom! Bitch-slapped!
I don't get the hate for Complex, I think it's alright. Kinda reminds me of Corporate from the first game.
we're doing well, aren't we mate?
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Man Archer Rockets are so strong with Amped Weapons...
Pretty well so far
Keihart
Member
Or you can, you know, use phase shift in an offensive way before an enemy start shooting you, i do it all the time. Phase shift before turning a corner if you see a ping, before entering a window or before climbing a building, iff you have any idea where they are you are basiically apearing behind or in front of them giving them very little time to react if they have their focus on the distance. Holo pilot can be used similarly helping even scout those places before you enter revealing enemies that attack it. Now if you do anything of this at considerable speed, you should have the advantage unless your map is hacked.
Edit: yes , i agree with your last paragraph but as you say, it is only better at long distances, you can close the gap pretty fast and secure using stim or phase shift (in my opinion that is) or even with holo pilot.
Corporate was more spaced out, there's more area for pilot and titan combat, not to mention verticality. Complex feels like 1/2 of corporate.
erotic grandpa
Member
Dunno how map rotation works, or if I need to just stay with a team instead of exiting matchmaking between rounds, but I've yet to see Boomtown more than once or Drydock at all in the week+ I've been playing this.
Warming up to Crash Site because it's damn near the only map I get to play on
Warming up to Crash Site because it's damn near the only map I get to play on
I threw out the grappling hook because I couldn't reliably attach to things and get where I wanted to go. This information however, makes me want to try again.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Holy shit I can't believe that work! Or well, it worked for Drydocks which have lots of sharp corners XD
I literally hide behind corner next to a friendly Legion, waited till one of them gets drawn in turned a corner and I emptied my Leadwall into them and started hacking like a madman.
Does anyone else feel like the green for a party member is so bold in comparison to the amber for yourself on the scoreboard, that it's very hard to see where you are? The amber is the same as the enemy team's. I dunno I just have trouble focusing quickly where I am on it.
Titan Balance
Legion got hit so hard, I don't see him really winning any 1v1s with basically anyone. I switch to him for a little bit on Crash Site and was met with 2 Tones and an Ion. Couldn't even do damage to any haha (and he can't run so). I think he was hit a bit too much. But you know what? Smart Core is a stupid design choice anyway so it's not like he can ever be fair and balanced anyway. Perhaps it's okay if he remains essentially useless in Titan fights.
Northstar flight really needs some work done. Not only is Northstar so easy to get hit out of it, the rockets are slow enough that you have to lead. It's the only Core Ability in the game that requires prediction and good aim to even make work.
Tone I don't understand why the 40mm was paired with a Particle Wall since I don't believe anyone specced for that in R1. I feel like Tone and Northstar should swap abilities and that'd make far more sense.
Complex is asssssss
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I don't know if matchmaking is smarter, or if casuals are literally not really playing this game. Very few players have no idea what to do. You would see R1 have players who want to crouch, not really killing anything etc. I guess those players are with BF1 or CoD or something. It's a shame because, at the moment, this game is basically up to whether or not 3 or more players are really good or not, otherwise they'll get rolled.
I don't know what this means, but during gameplay, I don't really feel if someone is a decent player or a scrub. I can see it in the scores, but what I mean is, in the original, you could watch players act like dummies. I never see that here. Perhaps it's because you can't completely fail with Auto-aim Core Abilities or something.
R1 seemed to have a completely different philosophy with Titans. Honestly, I'm not digging the fact that these Titans are so restricted in customization. I think it creates less depth and is why people are asking for every Titan to be good at everything similarly. Otherwise, what's the point? And if one Titan is the best, it means using a weapon you like isn't a great.
Scorch's primary is something I'd like to use on a Stryder class Titan. I don't believe it's easier to balance with restricted classes.
I'm Generation 3 and I can still can't find that element that makes me say "I love this game".
By the time I was Generation 3 in R1, I was completely blown away. I don't know if it's just nostalgia, but going back and playing a game of R1 makes me feel like these are two games are really trying to do different things. It boggles my mind how a single game of Attrition, on Airbase in R1, could have so much more life to it than anything in R2's MP.
Perhaps it's the maps, or the lack of AI banter etc. but every game does feel like a deathmatch. Nothing feels like it's part of a war. I suppose it's not supposed to be anymore, but it's just disappointing.
It was awesome to see large fauna in the background while dragons would occasionally land and pick up grunts as food. All while getting a Titan that felt like it could live a while.
For the lack of complexity, it's a shame we didn't get gameplay (and maps) that felt balanced.
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I know my opinions don't mean too much, but this isn't Titanfall anymore. I find myself trying to find it in this game, but all R2 is, is a game that's the closest to being Titanfall by a very large margin.
Titan Balance
Legion got hit so hard, I don't see him really winning any 1v1s with basically anyone. I switch to him for a little bit on Crash Site and was met with 2 Tones and an Ion. Couldn't even do damage to any haha (and he can't run so). I think he was hit a bit too much. But you know what? Smart Core is a stupid design choice anyway so it's not like he can ever be fair and balanced anyway. Perhaps it's okay if he remains essentially useless in Titan fights.
Northstar flight really needs some work done. Not only is Northstar so easy to get hit out of it, the rockets are slow enough that you have to lead. It's the only Core Ability in the game that requires prediction and good aim to even make work.
Tone I don't understand why the 40mm was paired with a Particle Wall since I don't believe anyone specced for that in R1. I feel like Tone and Northstar should swap abilities and that'd make far more sense.
Complex is asssssss
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I don't know if matchmaking is smarter, or if casuals are literally not really playing this game. Very few players have no idea what to do. You would see R1 have players who want to crouch, not really killing anything etc. I guess those players are with BF1 or CoD or something. It's a shame because, at the moment, this game is basically up to whether or not 3 or more players are really good or not, otherwise they'll get rolled.
I don't know what this means, but during gameplay, I don't really feel if someone is a decent player or a scrub. I can see it in the scores, but what I mean is, in the original, you could watch players act like dummies. I never see that here. Perhaps it's because you can't completely fail with Auto-aim Core Abilities or something.
R1 seemed to have a completely different philosophy with Titans. Honestly, I'm not digging the fact that these Titans are so restricted in customization. I think it creates less depth and is why people are asking for every Titan to be good at everything similarly. Otherwise, what's the point? And if one Titan is the best, it means using a weapon you like isn't a great.
Scorch's primary is something I'd like to use on a Stryder class Titan. I don't believe it's easier to balance with restricted classes.
I'm Generation 3 and I can still can't find that element that makes me say "I love this game".
By the time I was Generation 3 in R1, I was completely blown away. I don't know if it's just nostalgia, but going back and playing a game of R1 makes me feel like these are two games are really trying to do different things. It boggles my mind how a single game of Attrition, on Airbase in R1, could have so much more life to it than anything in R2's MP.
Perhaps it's the maps, or the lack of AI banter etc. but every game does feel like a deathmatch. Nothing feels like it's part of a war. I suppose it's not supposed to be anymore, but it's just disappointing.
It was awesome to see large fauna in the background while dragons would occasionally land and pick up grunts as food. All while getting a Titan that felt like it could live a while.
For the lack of complexity, it's a shame we didn't get gameplay (and maps) that felt balanced.
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I know my opinions don't mean too much, but this isn't Titanfall anymore. I find myself trying to find it in this game, but all R2 is, is a game that's the closest to being Titanfall by a very large margin.
phant0m
Member
I used my to unlock Tone early. You can also get some weapon mods
Snowy Christmas map...
hoyalawya
Member
I use the R97 in all maps that are not Homestead. The gun has limited range so stay out of the open areas. I equip mine with Run & Gun and Tacti-Kill. Rarely lose a hip firing battle.
TimbBerwolf
Neo Member
Hi all
First time posting long time lurker.
Must say I really liking this game. Never played the original. (not a xbox user) I have this game on my PC and PS 4.
I'm running with a GAF tag just don't know how to hook up with anybody. Probably lucky for you all as I'm always the 1st one killed. Also I really don't know what the heck I'm doing. 1st time in about 8 years that I have gone back to PC gaming (always hitting the wrong keys) also I'm an old man can't remember what keys do what,
Like to team up sometime. Mostly get time to game on the weekends. I do have a mic
First time posting long time lurker.
Must say I really liking this game. Never played the original. (not a xbox user) I have this game on my PC and PS 4.
I'm running with a GAF tag just don't know how to hook up with anybody. Probably lucky for you all as I'm always the 1st one killed. Also I really don't know what the heck I'm doing. 1st time in about 8 years that I have gone back to PC gaming (always hitting the wrong keys) also I'm an old man can't remember what keys do what,
Like to team up sometime. Mostly get time to game on the weekends. I do have a mic