Some thoughts on this most recent page of posts.
You know I watched the leaks "casually" (I mean just watched them once and didn't analyse the story in detail). I'm actually surprised that I don't think they make much difference to the storyline.
The 2 major bits of those leaks that I remember happen quite early in the game - the first 5 - 8 hours or so.
If anything those leaks make the game seem a bit more "basic" in terms of the story it's going to tell...
I had a feeling that this would be the case.
Good point about Persona 4 Golden on Steam. It's gotten an overwhelming positive rating from fans with over 12k reviews. Maybe we can take away something from this example. Maybe we can take away that games that aren't divisive, aren't pushing propaganda, aren't being prop up by the shill and dishonest game journalists don't have this review bomb problem.
Make all games like P4G in case people get upset and review bomb for not playing it safe? Okay, got it. Sounds like a great way to further the medium.
Why make a sequel if people who liled the first one won't like the second? What kind of stupid reasoning is that? Neil is a massive tool.
It sounds like it was a reference to Joel not being a good guy, so if you liked him you might not like what happens in this game. Sometimes you have to read between the lines.
No. The outrage started when the cutscenes were leaked along with information on context.
I know because it was when my excitement for the game died, because I realised that the game's story had been ruined by, or rather based around identity politics.
The cutscenes alone were enough to suggest that this was the case. And the leaked information confirmed it.
You clearly do not get it.
The writing is shit. This is the reason for the outrage.
This is the perfect sentiment for me to end this on. falcs: your post is an example, but I'm not directly replying to you.
This game is controversial because of its story first and foremost, and that's fine. People are not always going to like a product especially when it tries something like seen on popular TV shows. But despite the posts like this one say, the controversy, the hate, and the 25,000 negative reviews stem from the leaks.
If you think that many people would come to the same passionately hateful conclusion about the storytelling/writing had the game just released and people played it with thoughts given after, you're lying to yourself. The posts that use Cuckmann or the other common keywords betray the true intentions and/or bandwagoning for so much of it, and people are so often very quick to betray that intention even when they're trying to cover it by talking about what seems to be genuine points about flawed gameplay and story. It's just a shame the genuine critiques are drowning in a sea of childish whining.
My final takeaway from the outside looking in this whole load of nonsense is that the professional reviews are an industry hype train that doesn't point out flaws, and the negative user reviews present themselves like children crying most of the time and aren't honest enough to point out any positives. The truth, as is so often the case, lies somewhere in the middle. The 5-7 Metacritic user reviews seem to be the best chance at honest opinions right now.
I look forward to this all dying down and someone like Matthewmatosis on YouTube doing a good, honest deep dive into the game.