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[H From Steps]

I’m afraid this was MS plan all along, they will have monopoly in gaming with the ABK acquisition, the CMA guys have been fooled. They already did it with OS and office software, their software have been installed on millions if not billions of PCs even though MS have their own hardware lineup (Surface).

Bingo lol I’m sure the fanboys are mad but strictly business this move makes sense. I do hold a lot of Microsoft shares so I welcome this.

 

[DKPOWPOW]

As a counterpoint, they’re also responsible for two of the worst elements in the industry:

Paywall subscription for multiplayer access and timed exclusive DLC for multiplatform games. They pioneered the former with Xbox Live Gold and engineered the latter with COD timed exclusive DLC on the X360 to retain their edge against the PS3.

I honestly think if hadn't been for Xbox Live, Nintendo and Sony would not have been forced into creating their own habitats for online gaming. We could have gone possibly 2 generations without a decent online ecosystem for console gaming.

I mean look how backwards Nintendo was towards online in the beginning. Imagine if Xbox Live wasn't pushing them. We might not have played an online Nintendo game until 2018.

Sure it sucks paying $50 a year for it, but I'd take that over being 2 or 3 gens behind.

I'm not a fan of paid DLC in general, so I will give you that.
But I think PC paved the way for that with expansions in the first place. It's a double edged sword in my eyes.

 

[tmlDan]

Honestly if you haven’t already prob best time to buy some Microsoft Shares in the long run the amount of revenue they’ll be bringing it…

 

[RyanEvans21]

I’m saying if they put their exclusives on PlayStation. Why would I buy an xbox over PlayStation?

Same as Playstation! If all their exclusive games coming to PC.

 

[onQ123]

How is the weather?

 

[LordCBH]

Considering how badly Dial of Destiny flopped, I would go with No

To be as fair as possible, Dial of Destiny was also a shit movie and followed a long string of other shit movies disney had pumped out. It probably wouldn’t have set the world on fire if it was a great entry in the IJ franchise though, but we never got the chance to find out.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

in for a penny in for a pound, might as well go day one. They’re already day one on PC.

 

[bender]

How is the weather?

Spring is coming early this year.

 

[RickMasters]

Same as Playstation! If all their exclusive games coming to PC.

You will be able to play Xbox games on PlayStation…. You won’t be playing PS games on Xbox.

 

[skyfall]

Its still in first person though

 

[Bry0]

Zunebox

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Waking up to all these threads sure is something.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Pretty weird seeing such an amount of mediocre games create such a shitstorm. Lol

Edit:
Double-post, I need some more coffee.

 

[BatSu]

 

[PendekarRajawali]

Bingo lol I’m sure the fanboys are mad but strictly business this move makes sense. I do hold a lot of Microsoft shares so I welcome this.

Agreed, the fanboys will be crying but the money comes from software sales. Console makers tend to lose money on hardware. They’re not here to please the gamers as they always say.
The new empire has arisen.

 

[solidus12]

Spoiler

 

[Raonak]

Ironic isn't it. The ABK merger was the death of Xbox as we knew it.

For the first time, Xbox actually had the expectation of making money. A stable return from a 70 billion years purchase. It has to finally owe it's shareholders.

Activision, Bethesda, Mojang, etc. they all became valuable because they release on all platforms. They cannot actually afford to be exclusive.

The layoffs was only the first step.

 

[skit_data]

Waking up to all these threads sure is something.

True shit, I woke up one hour early and after opening twitter and seeing Xbox trending and people going "Wtf is going on?!" I knew this was gonna be an... interesting day.

 

[XXL]

Spring is coming early this year.

 

[Represent.]

They are going to buy up every publisher in the industry and just become 3rd party. No one off limits

 

[Raonak]

Man. When is MS gonna address this? I know it's only a rumour. But it feels like all but confirmed.

MS wants Xbox to become Netflix. It has been their play for the last 2 generations. They didn't care about hardware. But noone realized this is what it meant. The full 3rd party move was foreshadowed pretty heavily.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Man. When is MS gonna address this? I know it's only a rumour. But it feels like all but confirmed.

MS wants Xbox to become Netflix. It has been their play for the last 2 generations. They didn't care about hardware. But noone realized this is what it meant. The full 3rd party move was foreshadowed pretty heavily.

And those who have been saying this for years were labeled 'fanboys' and some were even banned for it.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Man. When is MS gonna address this? I know it's only a rumour. But it feels like all but confirmed.

MS wants Xbox to become Netflix. It has been their play for the last 2 generations. They didn't care about hardware. But noone realized this is what it meant. The full 3rd party move was foreshadowed pretty heavily.

tomorrow...well today in about 6-10hours ?

 

[XXL]

They didn't care about hardware. But noone realized this is what it meant. The full 3rd party move was foreshadowed pretty heavily.

They boiled the frog (or in this case, rats)

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Man. When is MS gonna address this? I know it's only a rumour. But it feels like all but confirmed.

MS wants Xbox to become Netflix. It has been their play for the last 2 generations. They didn't care about hardware. But noone realized this is what it meant. The full 3rd party move was foreshadowed pretty heavily.

Should really just come out with a blog post this week about it

 

[CamHostage]

Why? Sony had the Uncharted Remake on the way

Oh, I can't wait to play it in first-person perspective...

 

[Fishels]

Lol

 

[Negotiator101]

I do love that Gaf now think Xbox first party titles are actually good games bring it on I say as long as I still get Gamepass with all that value.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Ironic isn't it. The ABK merger was the death of Xbox as we knew it.

For the first time, Xbox actually had the expectation of making money. A stable return from a 70 billion years purchase. It has to finally owe it's shareholders.

Activision, Bethesda, Mojang, etc. they all became valuable because they release on all platforms. They cannot actually afford to be exclusive.

The layoffs was only the first step.

In reality, it was not Xbox that acquired Activision-Blizzard-King. Turned out that it was ABK that acquired Xbox.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Man. When is MS gonna address this? I know it's only a rumour. But it feels like all but confirmed.

MS wants Xbox to become Netflix. It has been their play for the last 2 generations. They didn't care about hardware. But noone realized this is what it meant. The full 3rd party move was foreshadowed pretty heavily.

They are intentionally just putting feelers out there, doing these controlled leaks, to create a cushion for themselves and craft their messaging as well.

There is also a strong possibility that they leak more than what they intend to do at this stage. For example, Microsoft leaks that Indiana Jones is also coming to PS5 this year. Then when Microsoft announces that Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves are coming to PlayStation, they refute the Indiana Jones rumor and say something like "Indiana Jones is not coming to PS5 this year. Those rumors are wrong."

That will give Xbox fans a (fake) sense of relief, and that'll make it easier for them to accept Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves going multiplatform, as in "phew, at least it is not Indiana Jones as well!"

Classic consumer psychology manipulation 101.

 

[M1chl]

So this goes down today? At least something mildly entertaining on monday

 

[The Pleasure]

Jim Ryan said that Phil Spender could make Playstation games if he does one thing

 

[Ic3man]

Makes business sense so why not.

 

[demigod]

I do love that Gaf now think Xbox first party titles are actually good games bring it on I say as long as I still get Gamepass with all that value.

Make sure you close your eyes and tap your heels together three times when you say this.

 

[GHG]

I do love that Gaf now think Xbox first party titles are actually good games bring it on I say as long as I still get Gamepass with all that value.

Well you better hope they sell well (which is no guarantee for a lot of the games given the level of quality), if not then there's a high probability you won't even be getting gamepass anymore.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Well you better hope they sell well (which is no guarantee for a lot of the games given the level of quality), if not then there's a high probability you won't even be getting gamepass anymore.

Xbox excels at mediocrity.

I'd be really surprised if Xbox titles on PS aren't going to be duds.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Xbox excels at mediocrity.

I'd be really surprised if Xbox titles on PS aren't going to be duds.

And if Xbox games don't sell well on PS and Nintendo either, it will be even funnier than this.

Xbox will be having lots and lots of layoffs, games cancelations, studio closures, and price hikes. They won't get lots of games on Game Pass either at that point.

 

[DenchDeckard]

They will make so much bank but I didn't see Microsoft accepting a 30 percent platform cut. I guess they finally reached fuck it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

And if Xbox games don't sell well on PS and Nintendo either, it will be even funnier than this.

Xbox will be having lots and lots of layoffs, games cancelations, studio closures, and price hikes. They won't get lots of games on Game Pass either at that point.

I was just talking about this with a co-worker who's a massive fan of Diablo.

He was saying it didn't really interest him, until I pointed out what you just said.

It's going to be a shitshow if we'll see that scenario play out.

Also, just imagine Sony and Nintendo rejecting GP.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

I guess a few ungodly expensive corporate mergers didn't really pan out the way some people expected huh?

 

[Heisenberg007]

I was just talking about this with a co-worker who's a massive fan of Diablo.

He was saying it didn't really interest him, until I pointed out what you just said.

It's going to be a shitshow if we'll see that scenario play out.

Also, just imagine Sony and Nintendo rejecting GP.

That is pretty much guaranteed. Sony is in a partnership with Ubisoft for Ubisoft+ Classics, and PS still doesn't have Ubisoft Premium. Game Pass is never coming to PlayStation, at least not in this form.

And I have very little hopes of XGS games selling well on PlayStation either. Most of them are just not good enough to compete with PlayStation's games on an even playing field.

Consumers have only so much money. Will they spend it on Wolverine, Death Stranding, Venom, Ghost of Tsushima 2, Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade or Halo Infinite, Gears of War, Forza, Redfall, Starfield, Hi-Fi Rush, or Sea of Thieves!

For the same reason, I also expect lots of these games to become available on PS Plus relatively soon.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

I was just talking about this with a co-worker who's a massive fan of Diablo.

He was saying it didn't really interest him, until I pointed out what you just said.

It's going to be a shitshow if we'll see that scenario play out.

Also, just imagine Sony and Nintendo rejecting GP.

I think some will be successful. I'll actually be surprised if Starfield is a huge hit on PS. I think launching later + word of mouth right now means it'll launch without huge numbers, unless expansions get excitement going again/ fix things

Hi Fi Rush deserves numbers, but not sure it'll get them.

Indiana Jones launching day and date has a chance though. I'll give it a buy.

 

[GHG]

Digital blood guys, digital blood.

This is serious.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I think some will be successful. I'll actually be surprised if Starfield is a huge hit on PS. I think launching later + word of mouth right now means it'll launch without huge numbers, unless expansions get excitement going again/ fix things

Hi Fi Rush deserves numbers, but not sure it'll get them.

On the contrary, I believe Starfield would have sold really well if it was a day one release.

Now that the hype is over and people have see how undercooked and last-gen that game actually is, I don't believe PS5 gamers will bite as much.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Digital blood guys, digital blood.

This is serious.

MS awkward third-wheelin' while Sony and Nintendo smooch.

 

[twilo99]

Fanboyz will be melting all over the place..

Not sure what they are doing with the single player games, but anything that’s GaaS/live service or whatever we are calling it, should be accessible from all available platforms..

 

[Heisenberg007]

Digital blood guys, digital blood.

This is serious.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

On the contrary, I believe Starfield would have sold really well if it was a day one release.

Now that the hype is over and people have undercooked and last-gen that game actually is, I don't believe PS5 gamers will bite as much.

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's launching when the word of mouth is poor, excitement is dead. If it had launched day and date, yeah, it would have sold well.

 

[amigastar]

It's funny, while MS and Sony are fighting over the first place in console war, Nintendo assured them a place with unique hardware and great games on the side.

 

[Astray]

the CMA guys have been fooled.

Actually no.

They had access to figures and they basically predicted that this outcome would happen on ABK games. That's why they said there's no incentive for foreclosure on ABK games (because then Microsoft loses its shirt).