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Top Gun 3 is happening!

M.W.

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Even though Tom Cruise inked a non-exclusive pact at Warner Bros earlier this week, it looks like he'll continue to be busy with Paramount for some time. Reports tonight are that Top Gun 3 is in development at Paramount with Top Gun:Maverick co-writer Ehren Kruger currently writing a draft.

The word is that the project would reunite Cruise with Maverick's Miles Teller and Glen Powell as well as producers Jerry Bruckheimer and David Ellison. Joe Kosinski, will reportedly either direct or produce.
 

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SJRB

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I'm clearly an outlier but I thought Maverick was super, super mid. The segment where they casually crash deep in enemy territory, casually find an airfield, casually steal an ancient jet, casually take off and casually defeat some enemy fighters was just too much goofiness for a movie that plays with such a straight face.

Or the bit where he crashes a supersonic fighter jet from the stratosphere while going mach 10 and just casually walks it off. For context: mach 10 is 7680 miles/hour, lmao. They went too far with the "Maverick's a superhuman badass", man.

Visually beautiful movie though. Some incredible cinematography and an amazing use of practical and special effects.
 
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kruis

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I wish Tom Cruise would do something else besides Top Gun and Mission Impossible sequels ... Hollywood has been creatively bankrupt for a very long time and it seems there's no end to that decline in sight.
 

clarky

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I wish Tom Cruise would do something else besides Top Gun and Mission Impossible sequels ... Hollywood has been creatively bankrupt for a very long time and it seems there's no end to that decline in sight.
The last MI was poor but the rest I enjoyed, along with the new Topgun. I think pre covid he did make other stuff more regularly , American Made was decent for example.

But yeah agreed he's not made anything but for quite a while now, the was the rumor of a sequel to Edge of tomorrow, but i'd rather they leave that classic alone tbh.
 

Atrus

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Wonder what kind of story it will have. You can't really play the old man schooling zoomers again.

They could always set up a story where Russia invades a neighbouring country and Top Gun graduates are helping to train that nation’s fighter pilots on how to fly older American jets.

The focus would be on establishing air dominance alongside the Patriot defense systems and turning the tide of the war or perhaps destroying a heavily guarded capital ship (say a missile cruiser) that’s blocking the trade of grains to poor countries.

Lots of potential for dogfighting against Soviet era fighters.
 
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Lord Panda

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I hope that the story is about Maverick and his squadron encountering a Tic Tac shaped UAP, during training exercises off San Diego.

The movie ends with Maverick being taken offworld and returned home.
 
I wish Tom Cruise would do something else besides Top Gun and Mission Impossible sequels ... Hollywood has been creatively bankrupt for a very long time and it seems there's no end to that decline in sight.
I mean...it's not like the man doesn't try and release good movies once in a while and no one cares. Edge of Tomorrow was kind of awesome and it flopped. The Mummy was bad but at least he was trying to go for something different. Jack Reacher wasn't terrible but too similar to other franchises he was already doing so it flopped. About him "doing something else besides Top Gun"...the man did one in the 80's and one a few years ago. This isn't the Saw franchise.

These are probably the last few years he's doing action oriented stuff so i'm sure we won't get a lot of Top Gun movies and Mission Impossible is about to have its last movie with him.

Hollywood having no ideas is right. But i really don't think Tom Cruise is a face for that tbh.
 

Billbofet

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I loved the shit out of Maverick, but I feel it's going to be difficult to capture that awesomeness again for a third movie.
The Mission Impossible movies have held and usually increased in quality since the fourth movie, so I'm optimistic.
Bring it!
 

jason10mm

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I'm clearly an outlier but I thought Maverick was super, super mid. The segment where they casually crash deep in enemy territory, casually find an airfield, casually steal an ancient jet, casually take off and casually defeat some enemy fighters was just too much goofiness for a movie that plays with such a straight face.

Or the bit where he crashes a supersonic fighter jet from the stratosphere while going mach 10 and just casually walks it off. For context: mach 10 is 7680 miles/hour, lmao. They went too far with the "Maverick's a superhuman badass", man.

Visually beautiful movie though. Some incredible cinematography and an amazing use of practical and special effects.
I agree with most of this, Maverick was a prime example of "right movie, right time". TG3 can't hit that high again unless they fold in Iron Eagle, Flight of the Navigator, Airwolf, and, fuck it, Macross why not? into the mix. They can't make a compelling bad guy unless they put China in it and they won't do that, though I suppose a Russia/Ukraine thing might work. But this nebulous "nameless country with fifth gen fighters" nonsense won't work again (though, now that I think about it, TG did basically the same thing over the Med, I think). They either need to just buy Red Storm Rising and adapt that basic storyline or it's gonna be a Fast and Furious thing with jet fighters from nefarious corporations or some shit. Though a Strike Commander plot with PMCs that somehow can afford advanced airframes going at it over African mines or whatever would be fine with me, it's the plane cinematography I'm coming for anyway.
 

Thaedolus

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It will bomb as Maverick was not that good and a lot of people went to see it out of nostalgia, like myself. Next time, I'm out.
Get the fuck outta here. It was the third 4K Blu-ray in my collection of three.

Anyway I actually had a dream there was a third one the other night and it sucked. Let’s hope I’m only half psychic
 

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NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Man i liked the remake despite the fluff. Basically only the very beginning and the ending. Oh and the training!
 

NickFire

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Oh boy this is good news. I'm not sure where they can go with it without it feeling like a let down. But I am more than happy to watch what they come up with. First two are two of the best movies of all time IMO.
 

Dural

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Loved Maverick, can't wait for this. Kind of hoping it's more Rooster and Hangman focused with Maverick in a supporting role.
 

AJUMP23

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Top Gun 2 is Star wars trench run the movie, and I enjoyed that. My biggest complaint was the US pretending the Iranians had more advanced fighters than the US does. Top Gun 3 I wonder what their plot will be.
 

EverydayBeast

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I support a top gun 3, it’s a legitimate franchise now we have to figure out which is better mission impossible or top gun.
 

Gp1

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I dare to say that I'm fan of the first one to the point of memorize almost every line of the script and can easily say that the first movie was, in part, responsible from one of my main life's passion.

But Top Gun Maverick is overall way better than the original. But by far.

I doesn't matter if his plane suffered a catastrophic failure, Mav ejected at Mach 10 and survived unscathed.

It doesn't matter that Maverick as a captain can't afford a P-51, a hangar right at the area 51 gate and his own personal ground crew that follows him everywhere.

It doesn't matter if the entire movie is just one big Star Wars trench run scene that a flight of F-35 would execute the without any of the hassles.

It doesn't matter that a single Su-57 would obliterate a F-14 in a dogfight. Without even considering the other 2 and the dominant position.

It doesn't matter that the air scenes are not 100% practical. (Even the more mundane flight scenes are doctored in one way or another.)

The movie simply works and delivers because it was just against everything that Hollywood was doing in the last 15 years.

If they going to give me another one. Who i am to disagree?

My only point of concern is how they can fit Tom Cruise in it and if Milles Teller and Glen Powell can carry the movie without Tom Cruise 100% at the center.

But the idea of Maverick and CO training another country's pilot to fly F/A-18 to fighting against a enemy superpower would be interesting.

Anyway, i would love to produce one of these nostalgia driven 1bi box office flop that was a huge success of critic and public. And eventually receive a compliment like "Your movie saved the entire industry" by non other than Steven Spielberg.
 

Mr Reasonable

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Wonder what kind of story it will have. You can't really play the old man schooling zoomers again.
Perhaps he'll be resentful at having been grounded by the US government and will be recruited by a foreign state to strike at the heart of America.

Now that, would not be expected.
 

jason10mm

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My only point of concern is how they can fit Tom Cruise in it and if Milles Teller and Glen Powell can carry the movie without Tom Cruise 100% at the center.
I think we know with CERTAINTY that Miles and Glen are not capable of anchoring a tentpole blockbuster on their own. None of their individual projects have been a commercial success despite any critical acclaim.

So Cruise MUST be in a major role, whether he sacrifices himself at the end or serves the "mentors death" in the middle, he has to be more than the opening act.
 

jason10mm

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98% pov/chase cam training and dogfights. 2% intro briefing
I want some 1/2 scale remote piloted planes with in cockpit VR cameras so the real pilots in motion sims can fly the planes and capture 8k video for use in the film. Fly around REAL landscapes, do REAL dogfighting with REAL maneuvers. Then mirror that with the actors in g force simulators or backseats for that visceral effect. Cruise's adherence to making folks experience real motion helps his stunts soooo much versus the "pretend to fall to the left" stuff.

I don't really need a lot of actual combat, just ample plane porn with sleek jets zipping around being filmed by chase planes or drones.
 

jason10mm

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I hope that the story is about Maverick and his squadron encountering a Tic Tac shaped UAP, during training exercises off San Diego.

The movie ends with Maverick being taken offworld and returned home.
Xenu: "Maverick, can you fly a DC-8?"

Maverick: "I can fly ANYTHING...."
 

22:22:22

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
I want some 1/2 scale remote piloted planes with in cockpit VR cameras so the real pilots in motion sims can fly the planes and capture 8k video for use in the film. Fly around REAL landscapes, do REAL dogfighting with REAL maneuvers. Then mirror that with the actors in g force simulators or backseats for that visceral effect. Cruise's adherence to making folks experience real motion helps his stunts soooo much versus the "pretend to fall to the left" stuff.

I don't really need a lot of actual combat, just ample plane porn with sleek jets zipping around being filmed by chase planes or drones.
Tom Cruise Cheer GIF by Top Gun
 

willothedog

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I dare to say that I'm fan of the first one to the point of memorize almost every line of the script and can easily say that the first movie was, in part, responsible from one of my main life's passion.

But Top Gun Maverick is overall way better than the original. But by far.

I doesn't matter if his plane suffered a catastrophic failure, Mav ejected at Mach 10 and survived unscathed.

It doesn't matter that Maverick as a captain can't afford a P-51, a hangar right at the area 51 gate and his own personal ground crew that follows him everywhere.

It doesn't matter if the entire movie is just one big Star Wars trench run scene that a flight of F-35 would execute the without any of the hassles.

It doesn't matter that a single Su-57 would obliterate a F-14 in a dogfight. Without even considering the other 2 and the dominant position.

It doesn't matter that the air scenes are not 100% practical. (Even the more mundane flight scenes are doctored in one way or another.)

The movie simply works and delivers because it was just against everything that Hollywood was doing in the last 15 years.

If they going to give me another one. Who i am to disagree?

My only point of concern is how they can fit Tom Cruise in it and if Milles Teller and Glen Powell can carry the movie without Tom Cruise 100% at the center.

But the idea of Maverick and CO training another country's pilot to fly F/A-18 to fighting against a enemy superpower would be interesting.

Anyway, i would love to produce one of these nostalgia driven 1bi box office flop that was a huge success of critic and public. And eventually receive a compliment like "Your movie saved the entire industry" by non other than Steven Spielberg.

Star wars, thought more 633 Squadron.
 

jason10mm

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Star wars, thought more 633 Squadron.
The fact that LucasArts could get a Rogue Squadron film off the ground, DESPITE the success of Maverick and having Patty Jenkins attached AND the wealth of lore already existing to mine for plots.....JFC the failure is immense. You have fricking WEDGE ANTILLES, Imperial defector so you can have some early academy stuff, then fights at Yavin, Hoth, AND Endor so you can fill the entire first act with a different POV retelling of those battles alone.

All I can think of is LucasArts said "This Wedge character, the linchpin of Rogue Squadron, does it HAVE to be a white guy?" Response: "well, kinda yeah, if you want it to blend with the beloved existing films, be accepted by the fanbase, and not alienate the entire audience." LucasArts: "Bin it then, let's double down on Rey."
 
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Gp1

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Star wars, thought more 633 Squadron.

Star Wars in general was heavily base on many WW2 air battles. Not only this one (the one that 633 is "based"), but raids like the Dambusters in Germany, etc.

Another point, in a eventual third movie they will have to introduce BVR somehow. I would mind seeing some F/A-18 "taking its shirts off" of and firing an Amraams wall to thin the herd like they did with the F-15 scene in Air Force One.
 
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jason10mm

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Star Wars in general was heavily base on many WW2 air battles. Not only this one (the one that 633 is "based"), but raids like the Dambusters in Germany, etc.

Another point, in a eventual third movie they will have to introduce BVR somehow. I would mind seeing some F/A-18 "taking its shirts off" of and firing an Amraams wall to thin the herd like they did with the F-15 scene in Air Force One.
That implies the TG series wants to show ACTUAL air combat tactics. I don't think they do.

But if they did, the Red Storm Rising plot with the Backfires popping naval ships BVR with swarms of cruise missiles would be a good "threat" for Mav to have to deal with.
 

Gp1

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That implies the TG series wants to show ACTUAL air combat tactics. I don't think they do.

But if they did, the Red Storm Rising plot with the Backfires popping naval ships BVR with swarms of cruise missiles would be a good "threat" for Mav to have to deal with.

True but my point is they can show this kind of scene with some impressive visual flare to entertain in a blockbuster movie. RSR and Air Force one are good examples.

Even Growling Sidewinder and Heatblur can build some real tension with BVR in their YT channels. I'm sure Tom Cruise and Paramount can do it too.
 
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Ownage

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If the GOP wins this year's presidential election, this film will do gangbusters.

If the Democrats win, the film's characters will all come out as gay and seek non-violent alternative dispute resolutions.
 

Woggleman

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I am sure it will be great but I wish Hollywood would create some new great movies instead of just mining the past. The 80s and 90s were great because they created their own thing and didn't just rehash the 50s and 60s.
 
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