SymbiantXenos
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Ukraine/Russia conflict NEWS thread - Updates on the Ukrainian crisis.
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I fell over outside and found out id voted 5000 times myself.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
This is the start of World War III isn't it guys?
Well fuck, been nice knowing you all.
Well fuck, been nice knowing you all.
SymbiantXenos
Member
Nope not at all. WW3 isn't happening over this.
benjipwns
Banned
Nah, they have to hold a glorious democratic referendum on that too.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
This is the kind democracy we can all be proud of.
Phantast2k
Member
I don't even know you though :|
The circumstances surrounding that person (civilian?) who was killed in Mariupol are tragic, but why the fuck would you provoke armed men like that? At the very least he didn't die at the scene even though the separatists already pulled tarp over him:
Warning: gore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlTk8ikz-io
Here's a better quality video of it all:
http://vk.com/video19928820_168491620?hash=d2df223ed5bebbcd
Apparently people in the video are also saying: "the are shooting into the ground", "he was hit by a ricochet", "stop provoking them" @ the guy shooting at the end.
Different perspective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGvR3BJ-Rs
Anyways: sad to lose your life like this. Hope that kid who got shot in the leg is fine.
That shit is exactly what Putin was betting on, just much more of it..
BMPs breaking through barricades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrpCYXkbyDY
BMP going nuts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwHBQ-tK8XA
People trying to provoke / trying to chase away the army:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP13Tbthzs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWCFuys8KiE
Some of them is apparently, audibly Caucasians (especially the guy filming), sounding foreign to Ukrainians from that region (mispronouncing cities).
Here's a huge video of 9th May in Mariupol (can't watch it atm.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WExEvZYR6yU
I feel sorry for the people who got caught in the middle of all this..
Also some of the Odessa blaze victims are rather easily identifiable:
Warning: gore
http://i.imgur.com/3wnWima.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/V1sWrRq.jpg
Crazy stuff.
And then you see them rebuilding the barricades... lamo
Partial Gamification
Banned
Looking at the barricade opposite the tank, it almost looks like a little launch ramp is setup for skateboards/bmx. I wonder what was on the other side. The tank driver was probably thinking aerial combo but botched the approach and just wanted to stick the landing.
As you've probably read in the news, the Ukrainian national guard opened fire on a crowd of civilians in the city of Krasnoarmiysk.
Here are two videos of the incident (the second one is graphic):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4joK6D_-Wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6RT6BEj08
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-guardsmen-open-fire-crowd-174522849.html
KRASNOARMEISK, Ukraine (AP) Ukrainian national guardsmen opened fire Sunday on a crowd outside a town hall in eastern Ukraine and an official for the region's insurgents said there were fatalities.
The bloodshed in the town of Krasnoarmeisk occurred hours after dozens of guardsmen shut down voting in a referendum on sovereignty for the region.
An Associated Press photographer who witnessed the shooting said two people were seen lying unmoving on the ground and insurgent leader Denis Pushilin was quoted by the ITAR-Tass news agency as saying there were an unspecified number of deaths.
Several hours earlier, guardsmen came to the town about 30 kilometers (20 miles) from the regional capital, Donetsk, and dispersed referendum voting that was taking place outside the town hall and they took control of the building. In the evening, more guardsmen arrived in a van and a scuffle broke out with people who were gathered around the building. Then the guardsmen fired shots.
Here are two videos of the incident (the second one is graphic):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4joK6D_-Wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6RT6BEj08
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-guardsmen-open-fire-crowd-174522849.html
KRASNOARMEISK, Ukraine (AP) Ukrainian national guardsmen opened fire Sunday on a crowd outside a town hall in eastern Ukraine and an official for the region's insurgents said there were fatalities.
The bloodshed in the town of Krasnoarmeisk occurred hours after dozens of guardsmen shut down voting in a referendum on sovereignty for the region.
An Associated Press photographer who witnessed the shooting said two people were seen lying unmoving on the ground and insurgent leader Denis Pushilin was quoted by the ITAR-Tass news agency as saying there were an unspecified number of deaths.
Several hours earlier, guardsmen came to the town about 30 kilometers (20 miles) from the regional capital, Donetsk, and dispersed referendum voting that was taking place outside the town hall and they took control of the building. In the evening, more guardsmen arrived in a van and a scuffle broke out with people who were gathered around the building. Then the guardsmen fired shots.
CHEEZMO™;111547318 said:
Same here. I've watched the first video frame by frame a dozen times, and I just don't understand what could've happened.
There appear to be three men shooting, and when white shirt and black shirt guy drop on the ground the bald soldier is shooting in the air, the masked man on the left is shooting at the asphalt, while the masked guy on the right has a finger on the trigger of the weapon BlackShirt is trying to pull away from him (not gonna comment on the brilliant idea behind that action
but I just did, didn't I?
Second video has been taken down, sadly, I was going to check the soldier that peeked above the building's entrance. Gonna look if anyone else rehosted that, will update if I find it.
Edit - there you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2-5Pkl_h4
Edit 2 - Damn, NewsMedia moves fast. First video down too, and two more rehosts of the same are also gone.
Phantast2k
Member
Same thing: firing into the ground -> ricochets -> injured (dead). Whoever taught them this kind of crowd control is an idiot..
What those videos show is how wound up people in the east have become over all of this. Russian television hammers into their heads that Western Ukrainian nazis will come and put them into concentration camps hence their reactions / confronting of military.
I don't doubt some of them are (foreign) separatists in plainclothes, like that one Caucasian I previously posted, but I'm also sure the bulk are legit concerned citizens.
Horrible and exactly what Putin wanted..
That tall tough guy now might need a prosthetic leg:
<gore>
http://i.imgur.com/uO45b4H.jpg
/that second video showed it pretty well. There are some more videos in the channel.
Oh, also:
//just search for the Cyrillic name of the city on yt:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Красноармейск
///video is also here:
http://vk.com/video-61259467_169145166?list=fdb377bcda6c045d25
What those videos show is how wound up people in the east have become over all of this. Russian television hammers into their heads that Western Ukrainian nazis will come and put them into concentration camps hence their reactions / confronting of military.
I don't doubt some of them are (foreign) separatists in plainclothes, like that one Caucasian I previously posted, but I'm also sure the bulk are legit concerned citizens.
Horrible and exactly what Putin wanted..
That tall tough guy now might need a prosthetic leg:
<gore>
http://i.imgur.com/uO45b4H.jpg
/that second video showed it pretty well. There are some more videos in the channel.
Oh, also:
Yes, I'm sure thousands died there.
//just search for the Cyrillic name of the city on yt:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Красноармейск
///video is also here:
http://vk.com/video-61259467_169145166?list=fdb377bcda6c045d25
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
I was thinking ricochet because it looks like you can see a tiny bit of muzzle flash directed downwards (although I cant tell direction for certain) for a frame or two in the first video, by either of the non-bald dudes, it's hard to say. Maybe the guy in the middle.
And that guy who got his leg fucked up is a total dumbass who basically shot himself.
And that guy who got his leg fucked up is a total dumbass who basically shot himself.
One gets shot in the leg when he attempts to wrestle with the soldier for his weapon.
Guy in white I really cant tell how he got hit because his injury seems to be from behind while soldiers were shooting in the air. Curious why the camera man suddenly takes the camera off the scene when the guy in white drops when no one around him seems to be making any movements.
Screwed up situation but I also think the AP is doing pretty shoddy reporting on it. Headlines like Ukraine Guardsmen open fire into crowd paints one hell of an image that is very different from what happened. Its near Kremlin level Propaganda
That headline I expect to see bodies dropping left and right and deliberate fire into the crowd. At no time is there ever clear firing into the crowd and the only confirmed shooting by a soldier is when he is fighting for control of his weapon.
Guy in white I really cant tell how he got hit because his injury seems to be from behind while soldiers were shooting in the air. Curious why the camera man suddenly takes the camera off the scene when the guy in white drops when no one around him seems to be making any movements.
Screwed up situation but I also think the AP is doing pretty shoddy reporting on it. Headlines like Ukraine Guardsmen open fire into crowd paints one hell of an image that is very different from what happened. Its near Kremlin level Propaganda
That headline I expect to see bodies dropping left and right and deliberate fire into the crowd. At no time is there ever clear firing into the crowd and the only confirmed shooting by a soldier is when he is fighting for control of his weapon.
empty vessel
Member
I do hope the Kiev authorities are held accountable for their crimes against Ukrainians.
iceatcs
Junior Member
A man with cap look like shot in close range too early before lift the air.
Yes, and other side too. They also killed some people too.
This... I did not expect. As usual, make sure to have that one 'grain of salt' nearby.
(Google Translate):
http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/1049130
(Google Translate):
http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/1049130
It is curious. Journalist got an image of the Soldiers in question
Certainly doesn't match the uniforms the Army is going around in. More unflagged camo. They aren't even all wearing the same uniform.
Crazy stuff.
I love this one. It should have FUCK THE POLICE on it (yeah, I know there are no police there, but come on)
SymbiantXenos
Member
Super fast hands
Crazy how it adds up to exactly how the call from Russia tells the Separatists to have the results end up at.
SymbiantXenos
Member
Won't be long before they try a repeat in Odessa.
Bullshit; bwa ha ha. But honestly I dont expect them to get any form of independence. I think they might be dealt with accordingly.
Phantast2k
Member
Hmm, interesting..
Empty Yamaguchi only pops up for victims of the fascist Kiev junta.
Here's a German article on Ukrainian refugees from Crimea. So far 7,200 officially - a number which is Ukr. authorities expect to rise Ukr. 150k. Banks closed with their accounts, can't sell their houses in Crimea..
Their accommodation / state welfare is badly managed, they basically survive on private donations.
Imagine that number in case the South-Eastern conflict keeps heating up? The separatists already catch people who they think speak or look Ukrainian which automatically makes them right sector (see for instance the vice dispatches).
Refugee in your own country - Syria redux.
Empty Yamaguchi only pops up for victims of the fascist Kiev junta.
Here's a German article on Ukrainian refugees from Crimea. So far 7,200 officially - a number which is Ukr. authorities expect to rise Ukr. 150k. Banks closed with their accounts, can't sell their houses in Crimea..
Their accommodation / state welfare is badly managed, they basically survive on private donations.
Imagine that number in case the South-Eastern conflict keeps heating up? The separatists already catch people who they think speak or look Ukrainian which automatically makes them right sector (see for instance the vice dispatches).
Refugee in your own country - Syria redux.
There was a guy on the old thread who was from Crimea. Hope he's okay.
Tallshortman
Member
Literally faster than electronic vote counting. We should have them run the elections in every country, astounding efficiency!
Roman Lyagin, 'Donetsk People's Republic' central election committee head
So, um, who elected this guy?
I sincerely hope the Ukrainian government will be able to quell this crisis and be able to maintain his territory in control. What is happening right now is absolutly insane.
Putin may call his army "peace-keepers", claiming that he is liberating Crimea, or using other newspeak words, that doesn't change the fact that he invaded Ukraine.
European countries are rather passive for now (despite the sanctions they claim to take against Russia, they still need ressources from it, and no one wants an escalation to an all-out war, especially because of the threat of the atomic bomb). Sadly, this reminds me of the League of Nations, which was unable to keep the peace and was unable to act in time to stop World War 2 from hatching.
Putin may call his army "peace-keepers", claiming that he is liberating Crimea, or using other newspeak words, that doesn't change the fact that he invaded Ukraine.
European countries are rather passive for now (despite the sanctions they claim to take against Russia, they still need ressources from it, and no one wants an escalation to an all-out war, especially because of the threat of the atomic bomb). Sadly, this reminds me of the League of Nations, which was unable to keep the peace and was unable to act in time to stop World War 2 from hatching.
Phantast2k
Member
Indeed.
Videos of people who engaged them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM6CZ7ssRJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsByjJpMefM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT1Nu12w0a4
If they're blackwater then their Russian seems to be pretty good. They could very well be the newly formed national guard.
/wtf is this shit:
So basically: all will stay the same, but all could change too.
SymbiantXenos
Member
..maybe, we will become a part of Russia..
Within a day they'll announce that.
Within a day they'll announce that.
No, he has been replaced. Can't blame him.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
I think he's come home for a while, which after two months of solid reporting and being kidnapped, he definitely deserves.
Yeah, Vice probably doesn't want to take any more chances with Simon. He was pushing his luck as it was before he was kidnapped, keeping him reporting there would likely have been a bad idea after he was released.
"Roman Lyagin, 'Donetsk People's Republic' central election committee head, says the status of Donetsk Oblast will remain unchanged after the referendum, Interfax news agency reports. "We just want to declare our right on self-determination. This means status of Donetsk oblast will not be changed after the referendum results are released - we will not stop being a part of Ukraine, we will not become a part of Russia, we will just tell the world that want changes," Lyagin emphasized.
"Maybe, we will remain a part of Ukrainian state, unitarian or federative; maybe, we will become a part of Russia. Maybe, we will become an independent state or a state within a confederative model," he added."
So basically they held a rigged vote for....nothing at all. Fuck me it's no wonder the russians didn't even bother sending anyone to try and phony legitimise it. It's also no wonder the ukrainians didn't try and stop it by force. It was completely pointless.
"Maybe, we will remain a part of Ukrainian state, unitarian or federative; maybe, we will become a part of Russia. Maybe, we will become an independent state or a state within a confederative model," he added."
So basically they held a rigged vote for....nothing at all. Fuck me it's no wonder the russians didn't even bother sending anyone to try and phony legitimise it. It's also no wonder the ukrainians didn't try and stop it by force. It was completely pointless.
empty vessel
Member
No, it was held so that the New York Times would have to write, honestly, that "[t]he referendums demonstrated that there was substantial popular support for the pro-Russian separatists in some areas." It was a demonstration of local support, which was why it was opposed by the West and Kiev authorities.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
CHEEZMO;111547318 said:
Ricocheted off the ground.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Should be "Fuck yo roadblock N####"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGTbJ9rp-aY
Its like Russia's Plan backfired long before it went into action.
Its like Russia's Plan backfired long before it went into action.
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