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Ukrainian Conflict - Donetsk Boogaloo
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https://twitter.com/lindseyhilsum/status/440818854877347840
ah it seems like Russia mobilized a few 'civilians' to incite conflict. Let's hope the Ukrainians continue to show resolve.
ah it seems like Russia mobilized a few 'civilians' to incite conflict. Let's hope the Ukrainians continue to show resolve.
Some quality independent photos from Crimea: http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1017094.html. The text is in Russian, but you can use Google Translate if it interests you (it probably should).
Footage of the Unarmed March on the airbase including the Russians firing the warning shots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzsZ_aDSGBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzsZ_aDSGBY
BrokenEchelon
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Thanks for posting these.
What is with Eastern Europeans and Adidas? It's like we're drawn to that shit like moths to a flame.
What the fuck is that on his chest? Is he building a Knex Iron Man suit?
Drop some nutella on dem palačinke.
Just saw this on BBC NEWS (wish it was on BBC America more often). Amazing.
Succinct Verbosity
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I feel so sorry for the Ukrainian soldiers in this situation... They are powerless in this situation and they know it.
At least in Russia, Adidas and similar sportswear are very strongly associated with a certain stereotype, which is rather similar to the British chavs (albeit the Russian version also includes implications of engaging in petty crimes like mugging and heavy alcohol consumption). That's why those "militiamen" (who are apparently local) are kind of hilarious, especially with those St. George ribbons.
As for the weird device, it's a hexacopter they use to take those aerial pictures:
Are they? Couldn't the Ukrainian government order them to attack if they really, really wanted to? Or do you mean in terms of Russia inevitably taking over bar Western intervention (which isn't going to happen)?
Edit: that said, interesting quote from William Hague this afternoon:
BBC said:
Thanks for the kind words.
We do actually, and we blame ourselves that we have failed with letting Putin become president for the 3rd time. In 2012, after the elections, Russian parliament changed the law, and now the personal costs of peaceful protest are high. And still people went to the streets past Sunday, at least 15-20 hundred of them. Hundreds were arrested, and now a lot of them face fines up to 300k Rubles (around $8000) or up to 15 days in jail. Police officers customarily lie in their reports, while judges decline any audiovisual evidence that may call them on their lies. I personally was away for the last 2 days, but the sad truth is that I am not sure if I would go on the streets. I fully realise that all of us, those who choose to stay away, just make the whole endeavour that much riskier for those who choose to go and stand on the street. In the last 2 weeks we have seen more than a thousand Muskovites arrested for political activity, almost all of those people - writers, journalists, scientists, professors, even movie producers, and, naturally, political activists.
This is just in: Professor Andrei Zubov was fired from MGIMO (almost all in Russian diplomatic corps have undergrad diplomas from this school) for writing anti-war articles for Vedomosti.
Succinct Verbosity
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In terms of knowing they'd be wiped out in Crimea if they tried to retaliate.
Oh, and the bald guy on the right here is Denis Sinyakov, a freelance photographer who was onboard the Arctic Sunrise and got detained for two months without any apparent reason. This is not exactly relevant, but I thought it would be interesting to know.
Yeah, specifically for the article I posted earlier in this thread. Nobody says that he was fired for that explicitly, but it's probably true.
damn. some brave guys.
Lagspike_exe
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Hell yeah.
When asked in an interview after if he was afraid of the repercussions for his article.
Local Crimean Defense forces joined Russians at Belbek Airbase
Boy look how well armed those local forces are with their fancy uniforms etc.
inglorious basterds crimea style
CHEEZMO
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I hope those marauding nazi armies that have been ethnically cleansing the Ukrainian mainland don't make a move towards Crimea. They've already killed thousands of Russians and Jews in the near-civil war levels unrest that has swept the country, so it's a good job those good-natured Crimean volunteers are protecting themselves.
Of course, you wont hear about this on Al CIAda-funded western media.
Of course, you wont hear about this on Al CIAda-funded western media.
Stay put, RT will quote you in an hour and invite for interview in two.
Ukrainian flagship is coming home and sending a clear message:
AU? VN? UA?
WHAT?
Trolling? UA=Ukraine.
UA = Ukraine
Sevastopol.
oh shi...
It was taking part in the NATO anti-pirate operation near Somali. Going to Sevastopol now.
The Ousted Presidents own Political party voted to impeach him. While there are elements of the extreme right involved in the process people from all sides of the aisle and ethnicities are involved.
The idea its Russia or the Nazi's is Russian Propaganda. Jews,Muslims and many more all make up the coalition that stood up to the ousted President.
There were fascists involved in the Maidan protests, and once the riot police got violent they were the ones who were the most prepared and willing to fight back. This is what Russia latched onto but it's not accurate to say that neo-nazis are in control of the Ukrainian government. The make-up of the parliament is still the same as it was before Yanukovich left, and the current government is only temporary until new elections can take place in May, so whatever increased influence the fascist elements might have right now it's not in any way permanent or long-lasting.
Well I'm pretty sure once the government recovers and new politicians and officials are elected, they can stop the rampant corruption and ultra nationalism that has started. Remember, entry into the EU will require the Ukrainians to really change the way their country is run and the way they live their lives.
I don't buy the propaganda that protesters were fascists, you did have some anarchists and nationalists, but it was also more a protest against Yanukovych and how Ukraine didn't want to remain a puppet state to Russia.
The biggest issue facing Ukraine is actually how corrupt the nation is, and how badly they mismanage loans and funds. The IMF will probably want greater assurances their money will be put to good use and repaid in a timely manner.
Wait, isn't that the ship that Russia said defected the other day? Wow, imagine that, those defection stories are bullshit too.
Image that shows how much the consumption is by percentage for Russian natural gas imports into EU. Crazy how much Finland, Sweden, and others rely solely on Russia, while many rely on them for almost 30-50% etc. I imagine oil numbers are also similar. Any knee-jerk change to this will devastate the countries relying on Russian Oil/Gas.
cjp
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maquiladora
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On the other hand I don't think Sweden (and possibly Finland) use a large amount of gas compared to other resources. I would imagine Germany is a lot more reliant on Russia's gas.
Yea, they did...
In reality not a single army unit defected, only confirmed case is that commander, Berezovsky, but other officers dismissed his tries to convince them to follow him, so he is basically a commander without any units now.
Militia is under control of the new Crimean government though, as it seems.
SBU (aka Ukrainian kgb) is still following Kiev's orders.
Kadayi
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I suspect the Ukrainian military are likely less inclined to engage in a conflict that they would almost certainly lose if push came to shove, least of all at the command of the unelected leaders of a coup.
I think so, they're using their heads well (the Ukranian troops).
Yeah, that's true. Finland and Sweden wouldn't be affected that much if Russia decided to close the gas pipes because the overall usage of gas is so small.
this not good
Kadayi
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They shouldn't even be in the mix.
I don't think that picture tells the entire story. It seems to indicate how much of the imported gas comes from Russia, which in the case of Sweden at least is indeed huge. But Sweden barely uses any gas, most energy comes from hydroelectric and nuclear.
Image that shows how much the consumption is by percentage for Russian natural gas imports into EU. Crazy how much Finland, Sweden, and others rely solely on Russia, while many rely on them for almost 30-50% etc. I imagine oil numbers are also similar. Any knee-jerk change to this will devastate the countries relying on Russian Oil/Gas.
Where shouldn't they be? Nobody could stop them from joining the protests of course, and they were already elected into parliament so they were already represented there.
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