Das-J said:It's going to be a very fun week!
What are we going to get to see?
Das-J said:It's going to be a very fun week!
Niiice. I hope that MAG is at least as realistic as CoD4's Hardcore mode.Das-J said:It's going to be a very fun week!
SolidSnakex said:Looks like the MAG and inFamous info will be coming in on Wednesday.
Tom Penny said:Does MAG have SP? I don't want it to ruin MP.
Raist said:So I guess the beta won't start before july at the earliest. Can we expect infos on MP before that? E3?
Fersis said:So much crown is gonna be eaten.
MP is gonna rock!!!!
:lolDestinRL said:I'd much rather see people eat crow, but crown could be just as unpleasant.
So basically, ND should cut back on the production values with Uncharted 2?AltogetherAndrews said:By the way, about the Uncanny Valley, it's my opinion that Gears never really approaches it due to it being firmly video game cutscene material. Well directed, well acted and with a good story to present, but the production, animation and such is definitely video game of the action comic sort. Naughty Dog attempted to cross the bridge, and by nearly succeeding they really thrust themselves into the Uncanny Valley with full force.
I get what he means with Gears....but not with Uncharted. They arent trying to be REALISTIC...so im not sure of how it can be uncanny...Pojo said:So basically, ND should cut back on the production values with Uncharted 2?
Give me a break.
Looks like it's almost like Splinter Cell's Mercs vs. Spies mode where one team has to capture treasures from the soldiers. I see Chloe scaling a wall. Could be really cool.mcdonnell said:http://www.niubie.com/2009/04/nb-labs-uncharted-2-among-thieves-a-primera-vista-modo-multijugador/
Looks like first screens and info from a Spanish site?
mcdonnell said:http://www.niubie.com/2009/04/nb-labs-uncharted-2-among-thieves-a-primera-vista-modo-multijugador/
Looks like first screens and info from a Spanish site?
Pojo said:So basically, ND should cut back on the production values with Uncharted 2?
Give me a break.
AranhaHunter said:Gears suffer from the fucking Killzone 2 fucking cheesy fucking lines and fucking bad fucking acting.
AltogetherAndrews said:You really should have made that the first line in your post, would have saved me some less than inspired reading. Good grief. Not only is the "bad fucking acting" absolutely ridiculous, but "cheesy fucking lines," said to somehow elevate Uncharted of all games above really any other game? Not that I mind it because, hey, it works, but Uncharted is absolutely littered with common cheese. :lol
AranhaHunter said:Right, everybody is wrong and you're right.
AltogetherAndrews said:Evidently. You just claimed that Gears is too cheesy, in some poorly assembled argument for Uncharted. Uncharted presents several hours of borrowed, hokey dialog propelling a borrowed, hokey storyline. I loved that about the game, much like I love how perfectly realized the characters in Gears are in all their cheesiness, but then I'm not the one desperate to tear down the competition here in some effort to paint the golden idol as somehow uniquely remarkable.
AltogetherAndrews said:Evidently. You just claimed that Gears is too cheesy, in some poorly assembled argument for Uncharted. Uncharted presents several hours of borrowed, hokey dialog propelling a borrowed, hokey storyline. I loved that about the game, much like I love how perfectly realized the characters in Gears are in all their cheesiness, but then I'm not the one desperate to tear down the competition here in some effort to paint the golden idol as somehow uniquely remarkable.
JoJo13 said:It pretty much is uniquely remarkable when it comes to cutscene production value. Only MGS4 could be comparable in certain parts. Gears, KZ...They're not even close, but you can try and equate the two as much as you want (they're both cheesy, therefore, they're equal in quality? err...not really).
You're in the vast minority regarding that opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJ6WqSsf7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gQn8wQDT8
vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8blYPmj2U0
is like night vs. day in terms of production values and quality of cinematic presentation (cutscenes, etc).
Have you ever seen a game that has multiplayer while also having a compelling, well paced, well acted, well written Single player like Uncharted?
After watching those clips: Uncharted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killzone 2 >>>Gears 1 and 2 in terms of presentation.JoJo13 said:It pretty much is uniquely remarkable when it comes to cutscene production value. Only MGS4 could be comparable in certain parts. Gears, KZ...They're not even close, but you can try and equate the two as much as you want (they're both cheesy, therefore, they're equal in quality? err...not really).
You're in the vast minority regarding that opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJ6WqSsf7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gQn8wQDT8
vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8blYPmj2U0
is like night vs. day in terms of production values and quality of cinematic presentation (cutscenes, etc).
JoJo13 said:It pretty much is uniquely remarkable when it comes to cutscene production value. Only MGS4 could be comparable in certain parts. Gears, KZ...They're not even close, but you can try and equate the two as much as you want (they're both cheesy, therefore, they're equal in quality? err...not really).
You're in the vast minority regarding that opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJ6WqSsf7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gQn8wQDT8
vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8blYPmj2U0
is like night vs. day in terms of production values and quality of cinematic presentation (cutscenes, etc).
DevilWillcry said:After watching those clips: Uncharted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killzone 2 >>>Gears 1 and 2 in terms of presentation.
AltogetherAndrews said:blah blah blah
Just for kicks, here is the original quote I responded to:
AltogetherAndrews said:KZ2 fails horribly in its writing and delivery, especially the in-game dialog. I had to eventually shut it off entirely due to it being so embarrassingly forced and all around shit. KZ2 is really the best example of how much of a success Gears of War is. Other than the love story, which is crap, the team dynamics in Gears is spot on.
AltogetherAndrews said:You really should have made that the first line in your post, would have saved me some less than inspired reading. Good grief. Not only is the "bad fucking acting" absolutely ridiculous, but "cheesy fucking lines," said to somehow elevate Uncharted of all games above really any other game? Not that I mind it because, hey, it works, but Uncharted is absolutely littered with common cheese. :lol
JoJo13 said:I understand that was the quote you were responding to, and I largely agree with the main point of that quote -- yes you can have a good single player experience AND have a good multiplayer experience. And yes, Gears 1/2 proves that.
I was just saying that I think Uncharted is clearly on another level when it comes to its storytelling. You seem to believe that Uncharted is being 'oversold' in that respect, and that other games can somehow manage to hold a candle to our supposed 'golden idol', when in reality Uncharted's quality production is a rarity when most games (even big blockbuster projects like KZ2 and Gears) simply are not that level of quality.
JoJo13 said:You really are insane....Gears has the same flaws that KZ2 has in that regard. The team dynamics in Gears are completely forgettable and forced "wooooo baby! look at all dat juice!"...ugh...and the sterotypes the game has are even worse. I guess KZ2's problem, in your eyes, is that the dialog isn't outrageous enough.
nelsonroyale said:uncharted was 3d comic in style
nelsonroyale said:KZ2 doesnt really have a plot, just some contextual cutscenes... whats there isnt anywhere near as bad as you describe...just there isn't really enough to constitute much of anything
mcdonnell said:http://www.niubie.com/2009/04/nb-labs-uncharted-2-among-thieves-a-primera-vista-modo-multijugador/
Looks like first screens and info from a Spanish site?
At 1st it looked iffy...especially the treasure that they're carrying. But I dont remember seeing these screens anywhere.TTP said:I can't be the only one who though those were SP pics with screen names photoshopped on it :lol
mr_nothin said:At 1st it looked iffy...especially the treasure that they're carrying. But I dont remember seeing these screens anywhere.
Hmmmm, they may be shops, they have an unusual amount of artifact'ing around the names and "HUD". Could be added by the devs though.
Hm?OceansAndEarth said:Actually, TTP meant that the MP screens are looking as look as the SP.
Heavenly Sword....they're at the very top.JoJo13 said:It pretty much is uniquely remarkable when it comes to cutscene production value. Only MGS4 could be comparable in certain parts. Gears, KZ...They're not even close, but you can try and equate the two as much as you want (they're both cheesy, therefore, they're equal in quality? err...not really).
You're in the vast minority regarding that opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJ6WqSsf7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gQn8wQDT8
vs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8blYPmj2U0
is like night vs. day in terms of production values and quality of cinematic presentation (cutscenes, etc).
You should ask if working on Multiplayer affected the Singleplayer in ANY way, shape, or form. Just for shits and giggles. :loldeepbrown said:Heavenly Sword....they're at the very top.
And peeps I meant questions for the dawgs not me!
N30RYU said:-Multiplayer co-op for 3 players. Different story than single player. Zones/actions in the map requiered for 2/3 players. Mini bosses in each section. Players will revive after a few seconds (less if the other players help to revive)
-Deathmatch. 4vs4 you can choose two skills. And you need to explore like in Uncharted 1 to find the strongest weapons.
-Capture the treasure, is like CTF. 4vs4 trying to steal treasures from the enemy base.
PM me. easier for me to archive. Cheers.mr_nothin said:You should ask if working on Multiplayer affected the Singleplayer in ANY way, shape, or form. Just for shits and giggles. :lol
Also, ask them how they allocated the team differently...with the newly added multiplayer mode. How many people worked on SP and how many on MP. Also, ask them how much longer/better SP would have been if they didnt add MP.
I diddeepbrown said:PM me. easier for me to archive. Cheers.
I saw lolmr_nothin said:I did
HorribleJames said:great single player games having tacky multiplayer modes slapped on for good measure are one of my pet peeves.
always big props to bioshock.
Jtrizzy said:LOL you can't even get follow the hive correctly. It's "tacked on" multiplayer modes, which Bioshock 2 has, so unless you are trying to make a distinction between co op and multiplayer you might want to do some research.