So everything can be unlocked via gameplay alone? Haven't followed many or the UC4 announcements, trying to stay in as much of a blackout as possible.
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So everything can be unlocked via gameplay alone? Haven't followed many or the UC4 announcements, trying to stay in as much of a blackout as possible.
MiamiWesker
Member
Jesus this is pure insanity. who cares if games are ready at launch like they used to be?! How dare people be upset that features that were STANDARD are now missing. Let's all celebrate waiting!
Previous games had all modes at launch, this game does not, that's the bottom line. The reasons for this might be valid but it is not good news, it's not necessary bad news either. But to jump up and down and celebrate that coop is coming in fall, that's ridiculous.
People are really reading this whole "delayed co-op" thing wrong.
Sure, it's disappointing we won't be playing co-op next week (though trials will be a nice distraction).
But think about it. Uncharted 4 has larger scope than any of the previous games:
- it's longer
- its playable spaces are vastly larger
- it has vehicles
- it has several new mechanics including grappling etc.
What a delayed co-op mode means is that they are bringing as many of these improvements as possible to an already-solid co-op possibility. Would you rather we get an OK co-op mode NOW - a tacked-on OK mode like from 2 and 3 - or would you rather we wait three or four months and enjoy a fantastic mode that does everything we could hope for, with vehicles, larger levels, etc?
They will have delayed it for a reason.
This new paced, considered, strategic Naughty Dog is a very good thing. It's reminding me more and more of Rainbow Six Siege's model - provide great content and keep the players coming back for no additional cost. Which has worked out phenomenally well for them and has made Siege a success.
Yes. It tells you this right in the OP.
Wise re the blackout
Sure, it's disappointing we won't be playing co-op next week (though trials will be a nice distraction).
But think about it. Uncharted 4 has larger scope than any of the previous games:
- it's longer
- its playable spaces are vastly larger
- it has vehicles
- it has several new mechanics including grappling etc.
What a delayed co-op mode means is that they are bringing as many of these improvements as possible to an already-solid co-op possibility. Would you rather we get an OK co-op mode NOW - a tacked-on OK mode like from 2 and 3 - or would you rather we wait three or four months and enjoy a fantastic mode that does everything we could hope for, with vehicles, larger levels, etc?
They will have delayed it for a reason.
This new paced, considered, strategic Naughty Dog is a very good thing. It's reminding me more and more of Rainbow Six Siege's model - provide great content and keep the players coming back for no additional cost. Which has worked out phenomenally well for them and has made Siege a success.
Yes. It tells you this right in the OP.
Wise re the blackout
Zeuanimals
Member
Seems alittle barebones up front, but at least they got 2/3 of the fan favorites in and more scheduled down the line. And free stuff is always good. Still wish there was a classic mode. Not one of my favorites tbh, but I know countless people who would kill for a classic mode though. The basics of this game are just too good to have all these distractions(mysticals/pdurchaseables/sidekicks) in every mode. Let the petitions begin.
Yep, according the post... everything. All content will be available to everyone, no paywalls. They want to keep the community together and un-fractured.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Co-op? What kind? Mind you, I'll take any sort of co-op!
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Maybe the co-op is connected with the Story DLC.
bigboss370
Member
Naughty Gods on point.
CaptainofIndustry
Member
Reckless Onion
Member
So those MP packs you get with deluxe are just immediate unlocks, everyone gets access to all the content right?
TimeEffect
Member
Free maps for life.. thank you Naughty dog.
Oh my god, Im so glad devs are finally stopping map dlc.
I will buy vanity items to show support for mp
Oh my god, Im so glad devs are finally stopping map dlc.
I will buy vanity items to show support for mp
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Agreed. Hopefully EA and Activision follows suit, but I will not hold my breath, lol. Even if only 10% of the total sales base purchase the Season Passes, it is enough revenue for them to not stop it.
TimeEffect
Member
That twist on Domination sounds fun. I had a lot of fun with just TDM so I expect three solid modes to last across the maps they have at launch.
As for Team Objective, itd be nice to see it return, especially for the less played, but just as fun modes like Chain Reaction.
As for Team Objective, itd be nice to see it return, especially for the less played, but just as fun modes like Chain Reaction.
If they add 4 new maps with each map pack, it'll bring the total map count to 16. Which is more than U2 but less than U3 I think. On the plus side, they're all new maps. On the downside, there's no returning favorites...?
I hope their plans change to add more maps, specifically remastered ones. As the last Uncharted, it should be the king of content and include series staples. Can't imagine Uncharted multiplayer without an iteration of Train Wreck and Village. Old Quarter from U3 is pretty great also.
Also wondering if clan support is gonna be a thing. It should be!
Edit: Just checked, U3 ended up with 24 maps! They remixed essentially all U2 maps for it. It had 12 original maps, and 12 remixed maps.
I don't think it's necessary to bring all U2 maps into U4, but they could include 4 from U2 and 4 from U3, and end up with 24 maps total as U3 did.
I hope their plans change to add more maps, specifically remastered ones. As the last Uncharted, it should be the king of content and include series staples. Can't imagine Uncharted multiplayer without an iteration of Train Wreck and Village. Old Quarter from U3 is pretty great also.
Also wondering if clan support is gonna be a thing. It should be!
Edit: Just checked, U3 ended up with 24 maps! They remixed essentially all U2 maps for it. It had 12 original maps, and 12 remixed maps.
I don't think it's necessary to bring all U2 maps into U4, but they could include 4 from U2 and 4 from U3, and end up with 24 maps total as U3 did.
I wonder out of Elimination, 3 Team Deathmatch, or Team Objective which mode is gonna be the one to come back in summer or if it's gonna be something new completely?
^ with the way the maps are designed in U2 and U3 I don't know if it'd even be possible to bring them over either way.
^ with the way the maps are designed in U2 and U3 I don't know if it'd even be possible to bring them over either way.
Negotiator
Member
And yet people say that this is the worst gaming generation ever...
No online passes? Check
No paid DLC maps? Check
No 30fps MP? Check
What else could you possibly ask for?!
TimeEffect
Member
Oh those two are too big for free map dlc. Especially COD.
Though it really ticks me off, knowing that you can buy dead dlc for games like BF4. Socmany dead servers that make buying dlc a total scam. Not sure why they wont make older dlc Free already
EA would be so cool if they did make free dlc for Titanfall at least.
Anyways, I really didnt think ND would do this. Especially since they wanted to charge for one new map for the LoU remaster.
This is also why I dont mind the mobile micro transaction model in aaa games. Devs seem to make map dlc free, which only benefits them, because why would fans play a game if their friends dont have dlc?
This way, everyone plays together and more people are likely to buy cosmetic stuff. Let's just hope weapon dlc isnt a total game of roulette. I hope they dont screw up the gun balance
Uhhh...where on earth are all the modes at launch? This makes me worry about the amount of maps.
Where is free-for-all? This is the most disappointing. I know for a fact my brother won't buy this now because that was 80% of the reason he was buying the game. So now I won't be able to play with him.
Where is free-for-all? This is the most disappointing. I know for a fact my brother won't buy this now because that was 80% of the reason he was buying the game. So now I won't be able to play with him.
Nightengale
Member
8 maps.
Well, that's pretty decent at least.
TimeEffect
Member
I would also have totally paid for co-op separately.
Weapon dlc is the only worry. Hopefully it can be like Rainbow 6, where you can buy things with ingame currency, alongside real money. As opposed to COD, where you spend money on just a chance to get an item you want, by playing the dumb roulette. I know ND has something like that, but hopefully that's an option, and not the only way
They should consider launching co-op as a standalone, for those that dont already have UC4. Like Killzone's Intercept mode, though that wasnt available for Shadow Fall owners.
Whatever they do, Im just really happy that map dlc is free. I can be much more receptive to buying micro transactions knowing I have total peace of mind playing MP without having to pull out my wallet to keep up
This is the way MP games should be.
Weapon dlc is the only worry. Hopefully it can be like Rainbow 6, where you can buy things with ingame currency, alongside real money. As opposed to COD, where you spend money on just a chance to get an item you want, by playing the dumb roulette. I know ND has something like that, but hopefully that's an option, and not the only way
They should consider launching co-op as a standalone, for those that dont already have UC4. Like Killzone's Intercept mode, though that wasnt available for Shadow Fall owners.
Whatever they do, Im just really happy that map dlc is free. I can be much more receptive to buying micro transactions knowing I have total peace of mind playing MP without having to pull out my wallet to keep up
This is the way MP games should be.
Oh crap even forgot about this mode another weird omissions, though the new maps don't really lend well to it imo.
Is that a silencer on Drake's AK? Has anything been said about weapon customization?
I don't know if there is outright customization but there is some form of silent weapons it's mentioned in the tutorial from the beta
TimeEffect
Member
Is that a silencer on Drake's AK? Has anything been said about weapon customization?
There are silencers, at the least. This is to counter showing up on the radar that they have now.
I dont think we'll see much else, like in UC3. More like LoU, which had just the silencer option
I don't think it mentions a "hardcore mode".
Jawbreaker
Member
Sounds great. I was really hoping we would get co-op in some form.
Coolbgdog12
Member
You can be upset all you want, I'm just saying you're bitching because people are excited about free DLC and maps down the line?? You're projecting as I didn't say "YAY I'M HAPPY COOP IS COMING LATER!!", I simply was excited about the post support DLC being all free.
Stop creating this narrative that this is what people are excited about. Tag the people who are jumping in joy about coop coming later.
Try again.
Ummm......we are. Or are you talking about at release?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol nearly FIVE years in development and still no coop at launch.
Not sure what the hell went wrong with this game. ND was able to put out a meaty Uncharted campaign with multiplayer and coop TWICE last gen and it only took them 2 years each. Even if we assume the multiplayer team didnt start working on it until TLOU shipped in June of 2013 that's nearly three years of dev time. TLOU didnt even have coop so just what the hell went wrong?
Free DLC maps is always a good thing. Glad to see Sony leading the charge here.
Not sure what the hell went wrong with this game. ND was able to put out a meaty Uncharted campaign with multiplayer and coop TWICE last gen and it only took them 2 years each. Even if we assume the multiplayer team didnt start working on it until TLOU shipped in June of 2013 that's nearly three years of dev time. TLOU didnt even have coop so just what the hell went wrong?
Free DLC maps is always a good thing. Glad to see Sony leading the charge here.
Uno Venova
Banned
Yeah I'm hoping it's the same three person co op with a mix of small set pieces and cut-scenes like UC2.
Huge changes happened, with Amy Hennig and others leaving a while back. This wasn't really a straightforward development cycle by any means.
Doesn't make it any less disappointing at the lack of content at launch, though.
Yeah I mean they'd have to be adjusted for some of the new mechanics (which is kinda the point!), but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.
Also out of those 3 modes, in U3 at least, Team Objective was the most active playlist. U3's team objective was really good. Having Turf War, Chain Reaction, Treasure Hunter, Marked Man, and King of the Hill rolled into a single mode covers a lot of bases.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
I was buying this for the single player anyway, but with this news I'll take a look at multi-player too.
This is the most startling part of all of this to me.
Holy shit, are we overreacting much? Co-op in uncharted isn't a mandatory headline feature and never was. I personally saw co-op in the Uncharted games as a short and sweet bonus for after I finished the campaign. It's not like they've ever touted this franchise as a rich co-op experience or something and i'd assume it's quite low on the list of priorities for ND.
I'm happy we're actually getting some postrelease support with new stuff. Co-op is just a bonus.
PigSpeakers
Member
So does co-op include split screen? That was my favorite mode in uncharted 3.
I like that the maps will be included for everyone. No split online community sounds really great. Can't say that I'm happy to see the coop is months down the road. I would love to hear behind the scenes at a later point, and I really hope the wait is worth it. I've mostly stayed in the dark about this game for a really long time. I still expect great things.
Somewhat. Watch some of the beta gameplay and you will see what they are.
zkorejo
Member
That sounds REALLY good. The only gripe I have ever had with ND was their decision to make DLC weapons for TLOU, some of which are really powerful.
I am happy they listened to all who called them out on it. I was going to play Uncharted 4 MP for the next few years anyways, but now it seems like the experience will be even better.
Amazing news.
EDIT: They should have atleast given us a number of maps for launch though. I hope its not just 4-5 maps with "DLC maps coming later" kind of a thing.
I am happy they listened to all who called them out on it. I was going to play Uncharted 4 MP for the next few years anyways, but now it seems like the experience will be even better.
Amazing news.
EDIT: They should have atleast given us a number of maps for launch though. I hope its not just 4-5 maps with "DLC maps coming later" kind of a thing.
Jawbreaker
Member
No, I meant that prior to this information, I was hoping we would get co-op in some way. It's good news because they confirmed it would come down the line.