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[cormack12]

Depends which version of UC4 is being used to. PS4 Pro, LoT edition as they have LoD improvements etc.

 

[pulicat]

UC4 barely had any gameplay so 007 win by default.

 

[nkarafo]

Smoke and particles seem to be 007's strongest point. They look amazing.

Everything else Uncharted 4 wins.

 

[LectureMaster]

Was really blown away by the tech prowess of ND in UC4, even to date.

For example, I still haven't seen many other developers pulling off this nice smooth animation of taking off the jacket.

 

[Vick]

It's a bug with texture streaming in bond, look into Graphics thread.

I took all my screenshots from that "PS6 level" from epilogue, everything looks ok until you look closer. Some rose tinted glasses here...

Uncharted has much better animations - that's for sure.

Yeah, I know. You misintepreted what I said, or I just failed to expain properly.

There's PS6-like assets in Uncharted 4 when the level isn't as heavy as the last, house level. I'll post some when I'll be able to boot the game.

But here's an example, not necessarily "PS6" but that's all I've got at the moment, look at the perfectly round, high-res bottle caps here:

Look at the screws on the stair's junction.

Or these deformable, interactable, iron cups.

In other scenes, true, the game assets when looked too close they reveal the optimization efforts, like the metal shower caddy isn't really round.. but is it really important when from a normal distance they look like this?

Or the Mac, of which keyboard is actually mostly flat.

 

[FalconPunch]

Also, there are definitely shots in James Bond where the RTGI shines through and you can see the lighting in Uncharted 4 is dated by today's standards.

But Uncharted 4 is so consistent and ND have a nose for cinematic presentation most simply don't have.

This is a day scene vs a night scene in uncharted. If RTGI was what you wanted to show off, this is definitely not the example to do it.

 

[p_xavier]

You can play the 1440p mode on Pro at an almost locked 120 when unlocking the framerate.

HDR is gimped though in 120fps. Sony not allowing full HDMI 2.1 output was such a lame call.

 

[Gusy]

HDR is gimped though in 120fps. Sony not allowing full HDMI 2.1 output was such a lame call.

Didn't know that. I've always thought that the U4 HDR implementation was very mediocre anyways, which is weird considering ND pedigree (no pun intended) so I dont think people are missing that much by sticking to SDR

 

[Gaiff]

and you forgot money...the same with Rockstar games...

Yes, of course, but Rockstar is just a different animal that comes out every 10 years. They're simply a level above everyone else when it comes to technology.

 

[Bojji]

Yeah, I know. You misintepreted what I said, or I just failed to expain properly.

There's PS6-like assets in Uncharted 4 when the level isn't as heavy as the last, house level. I'll post some when I'll be able to boot the game.

But here's an example, not necessarily "PS6" but that's all I've got at the moment, look at the perfectly round, high-res bottle caps here:

Look at the screws on the stair's junction.

Or these deformable, interactable, iron cups.

In other scenes, true, the game assets when looked too close they reveal the optimization efforts, like the metal shower caddy isn't really round.. but is it really important when from a normal distance they look like this?

Or the Mac, of which keyboard is actually mostly flat.

I agree.

Another thing that Uncharted 4 has - plants physics. Pretty much every plant, bush or tree react to the player, very few games try to replicate this and not even one of them is on the same level.

 

[Gaiff]

It's a bug with texture streaming in bond, look into Graphics thread.

Is it a bug? Because that's the defense I see every time those blurry disgusting textures come up. "Oh, it's a streaming bug," or the textures don't load properly. Problem is, I never see the "non-bugged" textures and this never gets fixed whether it's in Nioh 3 or Black Myth Wukong. Can we actually get the correct textures in James Bond or is it just something they forgot to implement in those instances?

 

[Bojji]

Is it a bug? Because that's the defense I see every time those blurry disgusting textures come up. "Oh, it's a streaming bug," or the textures don't load properly. Problem is, I never see the "non-bugged" textures and this never gets fixed whether it's in Nioh 3 or Black Myth Wukong. Can we actually get the correct textures in James Bond or is it just something they forgot to implement in those instances?

NSFW  Post in thread 'Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen'

Today at 7:23 PM

Just checked now. Your screenshots are too far away which is why they look better. If you aim with L2 to the textures in those areas they're very low res.


Make the same screenshots but closer.

Different textures here:

I think for some reason texture streaming is broken on your side.

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But for final consensus, more people need to reach this level and take ss (including me).

 

[Killer8]

I don't think Intergalactic even looks as good as Uncharted 4.

 

[RJMacready73]

Haven't watched the video yet but all the gameplay clips I've seen of 007 and I intend to get it, it doesn't look anywhere near as good as Uncharted 4 imo as far as I can remember it, been a year or two since I replayed it, 007 to me looked the closest to an uncharted game I've seen yet gameplay wise but IO just don't have those ND chops

 

[Hudo]

I don't think Intergalactic even looks as good as Uncharted 4.

That anime trailer in the Intergalactic trailer looks better than the actual game in that trailer.

 

[Gaiff]

This is a day scene vs a night scene in uncharted. If RTGI was what you wanted to show off, this is definitely not the example to do it.

Nope, definitely not night. It's the late afternoon or maybe early evening, but the sun is still out at that time in Uncharted 4.

 

[Vick]

I think it's worth mentioning 007 is going to get a Path Tracing update on PC.
It won't improve animations but it's for sure going be a generation ahead Uncharted 4, technically.

 

[adamsapple]

NSFW  Post in thread 'Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen'

Today at 7:23 PM

Just checked now. Your screenshots are too far away which is why they look better. If you aim with L2 to the textures in those areas they're very low res.


Make the same screenshots but closer.

Different textures here:

I think for some reason texture streaming is broken on your side.

• Bojji

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But for final consensus, more people need to reach this level and take ss (including me).

What chapter is this, without spoiling, I might be getting the game on Xbox today and will gladly take some there when I reach. Hopefully it's early on.

 

[Bojji]

What chapter is this, without spoiling, I might be getting the game on Xbox today and will gladly take some there when I reach. Hopefully it's early on.

I think after that Slovakia mission (from trailers and DF video).

 

[Shin-Ra]

What's the BGM playing at various points in the video but this is a good timestamp:



? It's so familiar but I can't remember what it's from.

 

[simpatico]

The new 007 game is really good. But man, I wish Sony didn't kill Naughty Dog. This thread really shows off how good they were.

 

[Victhemic]

Gaiff: Vick, come on man, spoiler tag those.

Vick :

"Fuck yo couch! Darkness, evil, black magic!"

 

[FalconPunch]

Nope, definitely not night. It's the late afternoon or maybe early evening, but the sun is still out at that time in Uncharted 4.

I think you're incorrect. Shortly after that scene in Uncharted, Drake goes outside and it's dark. Literally night.

 

[LordOcidax]

UC4 is one of my favorite PS4 game and still looks amazing… But 007 is on another league.

 

[Bojji]

I think you're incorrect. Shortly after that scene in Uncharted, Drake goes outside and it's dark. Literally night.

It's a sunset before you enter mansion, it changes to night time during auction.

 

[Gaiff]

I think you're incorrect. Shortly after that scene in Uncharted, Drake goes outside and it's dark. Literally night.

No, it's a while after. You go through the sequence of sneaking around to find the breaker and shut it down.

Look at the window. There's still sunlight.

 

[FalconPunch]

No, it's a while after. You go through the sequence of sneaking around to find the breaker and shut it down.

Look at the window. There's still sunlight.

Ahh ok, I was wrong. My bad.

 

[Von Hugh]

I got laughed at in the OT for saying 007's graphics don't impress me. Glad I found my people from this thread.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Bond looks amazing but put me in the camp of UC4 deserves the win for being over ten years old.

 

[midnightAI]

Honestly bald chick wouldn't be a problem if she didn't clearly didn't have such a WELL THAT HAPPENED! Personality shining through.

And that proves how damn amazing the facial capture and animations are if you see the attitude she has got (we also have zero context behind her attitude so it could be well founded)

 

[Pedro Motta]

UC4 barely had any gameplay so 007 win by default.

 

[Pedro Motta]

I got laughed at in the OT for saying 007's graphics don't impress me. Glad I found my people from this thread.

Same, got called a ball gargling fanboy for stating the obvious. That said, I'm playing this game for sure.

 

[Joel Was Right]

This thread triggered me unreasonably. Like, irritated me. I'm logging off.

 

[viveks86]

[But for final consensus, more people need to reach this level and take ss (including me).

One more from that thread Gaiff

Doesn't look great but definitely doesn't look as bad as those pics.

I'm playing at 1440p btw, forgot to mention that.

 

[YCoCg]

Naughty Dog are a top end studio with massive budgets and direct access to most Sony in-house tech.

IOI are not that. The fact we've even got something close to an Uncharted game should be praised, especially since ND don't seem interested anymore.

 

[Insane Metal]

I know for a fact that Uncharted 4 does not have the rotten textures Vick posted. Are those from the video? What the fuck did they do to get stuff looking like that?

 

[Vick]

I know for a fact that Uncharted 4 does not have the rotten textures Vick posted. Are those from the video? What the fuck did they do to get stuff looking like that?

Apparently they can look a little better on PC, but the DF video shows those are the kind of extremely low res assets you get on console.

 

[YCoCg]

Apparently they can look a little better on PC, but the DF video shows those are the kind of extremely low res assets you get on console.

Have you checked after the patch? John said the latest patch resolved some of them, seemingly a loading issue.

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

Just leave them both be, appreciate that we get to play both of them, I grew up playing on an Atari 2600 and I got to play Uncharted, 2, 3 and 4 and Firstlight and I'm grateful for it.

They can both look exquisite, they can both look poor but ultimately they both look amazing unless you scrutinise to the nth degree and zoom in 20 x to see if the texture on a plant under the water is high res or low res.

 

[damidu]

stills wont do justice, ND is in its own league when it comes to animation
nice effort from IO though, they definitely got out of their comfort zone. instead of chickening out of this exact comparison like machinegames's first person indy lol
probably will end up selling much better for it too.

 

[Killer8]

What's the BGM playing at various points in the video but this is a good timestamp:



? It's so familiar but I can't remember what it's from.

 

[Bojji]

NSFW  Post in thread 'Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen'

Today at 10:25 PM

Are you able to get to this spot that DF showed?

They did. They covered these extremely low res assets in the video, PS5 Pro version.

But John did add that patch fixed some of his texture problems.

Assets in Slovakia mission:

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[bitbydeath]

Also, there are definitely shots in James Bond where the RTGI shines through and you can see the lighting in Uncharted 4 is dated by today's standards.

But Uncharted 4 is so consistent and ND have a nose for cinematic presentation most simply don't have.

I think that just goes to show how bad and unrealistic current lighting techniques are.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Shitty comparison, DF is getting desperate.


I think UC4 is more impressive which is crazy since it came out 10 years ago, there are areas where it looks outdated but I still think it's better overall. I wish we were getting an Uncharted 5 instead of Intergalactic to be honest.

 

[Bojji]

I think that just goes to show how bad and unrealistic current lighting techniques are.

Lighting in UC4 pic is not realistic at all.

Bond lighting is far from the highest quality RTGI or PT, but still looks ok most of the time:

 

[Banjo64]

Uncharted looks better IMO. ND are head and shoulders best in class when it comes to graphics and animation on consoles.

 

[Kataploom]

Uncharted games are corridors with barely anything going on, doesn't this game simulate a shitton of people around and millions of possibilities in how you handle the situations... That plus diminishing return, I think it's consistent with what it should deliver

 

[Gaiff]

I think that just goes to show how bad and unrealistic current lighting techniques are.

That's just nonsense.

 

[Kataploom]

No, it's not bullshit at all.

If you really can't see the difference between Uncharted motion blending and this:



I may suggest an optometrist.

I can see the difference and couldn't care less lol

 

[bitbydeath]

That's just nonsense.

That image in particular is like someone just waking up and eyes are still adjusting to the light.