Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Flat explosions look horrible and Drake's Fortune has highly stylised, saturated painted textures.
Uncharted 2 and 3 should gain volumetric explosions tweaked to match their slightly more realistic art.
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Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection 1080p/60fps footage+demo coming this summer
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Uncharted 2 and 3 should gain volumetric explosions tweaked to match their slightly more realistic art.
I do too considering everything else looks realistic. Its isn't a case of suspending disbelief, it's about a badly implimented particle effect.
Ideally i'd like something volumetric like what was in killzone 2 or what's in uncharted 4. But i suspect we won't be getting tweeks as extensive as those.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
I'll wait for gamersyde footage to judge how it looks.
No link as it is an in store video. As I work at GameStop and have to listen to that interview in excess of 30+ times a day, I can tell you it's true.
Watching video on a browser just blows, at least on Windows it does. If you want to watch that footage be actually smooth, you'll have to download it and watch it on your favorite media player.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Killzone 2's volumetric explosions (from rockets and such) were pretty angular and not exactly realistic compared to Drake's Fortune's.
Excellent to hear. Thanks!
TrebuchetGames
Member
Looks great..the texture upgrades look like a big step up even on a game that already looked pretty great.....not sure why some people are complaining... not really sure what some companies need to do to get people to be happy with remasters 
Already pre-ordered this and will enjoy playing all three again over Xmas (I've stopped myself from replaying them again on the theory they were coming to PS4 and very happy they are).
Really want to see UC1 - because i think that will be where changes would need to be done moreso than the over two games.
Already pre-ordered this and will enjoy playing all three again over Xmas (I've stopped myself from replaying them again on the theory they were coming to PS4 and very happy they are).
Really want to see UC1 - because i think that will be where changes would need to be done moreso than the over two games.
One looked like smoke created by a grenade. The other looked like a miniature nuke. Killzone was vastly more realistic. Both had volume, but one was badly done. But please highlight this "angular" smoke in killzone?
http://youtu.be/-6kdLNGncNI Killzone 2/3 smoke
http://youtu.be/AJxm_QCro6w Actual grenade
There is no slow burning "explosion" with a slow mushroom like cloud raising up into the heavens...it's all very smokey.
Agreed. I'm keeping my expectations low, but it'd be so neat if Uncharted 1 actually got some kind of an overhaul like they say it will.
OMG I Never knew I wanted a 60fps Uncharted! O_O
that framerate with their already awesome animations, makes it looks so life like.
Now I know what PC gamers mean they get excited for multiplat 30fps games that they can run at 60fps. Like say GTA5 or Assassin's Creed.
tommyleelynn
Member
The YouTube video offers 720p60fps and 1080p60fps quality options to see the game in action on the PS4
Sword Of Doom
Member
Are we really nitpicking explosions now?
In a movie when an entire city block blows up its probably not very realistic of what would happen in real life but it's done for effect. Uncharted games are similar so I don't really care if a grenade exploding is realistic or not
If anything what has always felt unrealistic in an uncharted game for me has been the hundreds of henchmen I have to contend with
In a movie when an entire city block blows up its probably not very realistic of what would happen in real life but it's done for effect. Uncharted games are similar so I don't really care if a grenade exploding is realistic or not
If anything what has always felt unrealistic in an uncharted game for me has been the hundreds of henchmen I have to contend with
Never read a Transformers/GI Joe review?
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Why do you think Naughty Dog were trying to make a photorealistic explosion in Drake's Fortune? The rest of the game isn't trying to look that realistic.
I think the explosions differ depending on the explosive but even those that do create a significant polygonal volume of fire, the yellow 'dome' flashes and contracts so quickly you barely get to appreciate it and it's surrounded by a bunch of flat looking particles.
edit: The KZ2 Leipzig G|C multiplayer trailer's the clearest footage I could find of the rocket explosions which linger a bit longer, but I slowed it down to make it clearer.
As soon as the bloom fades away enough so you can see the fiery orb, it's not any more realistic than Drake's Fortune's. It just disappears so quickly you rarely notice it.
Frankly i just want visual consistency. For a series so focused on the details (drakes shirt creases when he walks...kinda says it all). It's always been a detail that stood out as wrong.
But at any rate i'm sure the shitty DF explosions will return anyway, seeing as it seems to just be an upres, texture boost and framerate boost remaster. Can,t imagine they'd go the extra mile and fix visual inconsistencies?
BabyFaceKillah
Member
My 2 favorite tps being remastered and their sequels coming out next years... feels good man
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
Wow, rerendered cutscenes as well? Almost glad there is no multiplayer included so I don't have the urge to buy this digitally. The data size of this must be massive.
Elitist1945
Member
Looking forward to this very much. Uncharted 2 looks great at 60fps.
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Deleted member 325805
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Can't wait for this, hope it runs at 60 without dips throughout.
Why do you think Naughty Dog were trying to make a photorealistic explosion in Drake's Fortune? The rest of the game isn't trying to look that realistic.
I think the explosions differ depending on the explosive but even those that do create a significant polygonal volume of fire, the yellow 'dome' flashes and contracts so quickly you barely get to appreciate it and it's surrounded by a bunch of flat looking particles.
edit: The KZ2 Leipzig G|C multiplayer trailer's the clearest footage I could find of the rocket explosions which linger a bit longer, but I slowed it down to make it clearer.
As soon as the bloom fades away enough so you can see the fiery orb, it's not any more realistic than Drake's Fortune's. It just disappears so quickly you rarely notice it.
Rockets explode though....so...not sure why its being used as an example when talking about grenades? Its a damn sight more realist looking then DF though. But whatever, you'll get your tangerine explosion i'm sure
That probably has something to do with the fact that you posted a video of a training grenade that is devoid of explosive material.
Edit: Never mind. They did use live 'nades after the training exercise.
The smoke propagates up top though, instead of being dispersed by the heat.
http://youtu.be/0W75JH1x5BI Better?
http://youtu.be/eKtXZHeEydk Better?
Smoke should move and dissipate, the explosion should be milliseconds, barely visible. It doesn't have time to have burning core within its cloud. There is no fuel. DF just had bad explosions, but realistically the chances to see them fixed is slim so i'll ultimately get over it.
Wow, are you that insecure? The edit in which I admit I was wrong is even in your quote.
Aceofspades
Banned
Take my money
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I totally understand that. Makes sense on a technical level.
The DF grenade literally has evolved to its own persona/parody on here due to its tech.
It wasn't when i clicked "quote"...You must have fixed your post while i was finding other examples.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Hype. Increased.
I never did finish Drake's Fortune since I got my PS3 a bit late into the game and it was already dated, now's the best time.
I never did finish Drake's Fortune since I got my PS3 a bit late into the game and it was already dated, now's the best time.
Nate & Sully's models in UC3 were great, their faces had more detail & better expressions, but Elena didn't have any extra detail & her face was changed for no reason, her UC1 & UC2 models were far superior.
Finally saw the 60fps video. Performance looks really good. Colors seem a bit more muted but that could just be the video capture itself. I do hope they get motion blur in. I think that adds to a cinematic look more than anything else and it's important for Uncharted.
In any case, I can't wait to have these games on my PS4. This series was my go to whenever I wanted to play something but wasn't in the midst of another game.
In any case, I can't wait to have these games on my PS4. This series was my go to whenever I wanted to play something but wasn't in the midst of another game.
papercan55
Member
please no, it's ok if he looks like the uncharted 3 drake but i pray he doesn't control like him.
Drake in 3 controlled and acted like a drunk caveman frowning and swinging his arms out wildly and constantly looking left to right whilst he bent he legs. Give me uncharted 1 or 2 drake any day.
u2 would be better i guess, as long as they keep the over animated drake from 3 out of the other games i'll be happy.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I can't wait for a remastered version of that tree.
Dat 1080p 60fps tree!
In all honesty that is probably one of the textures they will not rework. It is still fantastic, and I want to see it in 1080p as well.
makingmusic476
Member
Please please please rework Drake's Fortune's melee combat. I love so much about that game and want it to be my favorite in the series.
EdReedFan20
Member
Has this been seen? PS Blog Hands On: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/07/15/hands-on-uncharted-the-nathan-drake-collection-on-ps4/
I know, it's a biased preview, but this part is interesting for people worrying about visuals:
Also this:
I guess if you did not like Elena's look in Drake's Deception, you'll have to get used to it in Drake's Fortune and Among Thieves. I'm glad it sounds like the Drake's Fortune models are getting an upgrade though. They sort of looked liked plastic dolls the last time I played it.
I know, it's a biased preview, but this part is interesting for people worrying about visuals:
Also this:
I guess if you did not like Elena's look in Drake's Deception, you'll have to get used to it in Drake's Fortune and Among Thieves. I'm glad it sounds like the Drake's Fortune models are getting an upgrade though. They sort of looked liked plastic dolls the last time I played it.
Stop using that phrase.
Games aren't movies. Games don't render motion like movies or a movie camera both which have features that give motion blur that games can't hope to touch in our lifetimes.A movie never drops it frames for any reason short of someone not doing their job or you watching a stream. Most games even now have a hard to keeping at 30fps 100% like a movie or a tv show.
It can't take away a feeling that is all placebo.
Kabuki Waq
Member
Should be great for picking apart the improved textures.
I dunno how the face looks really because we can't get a good look at it but if you look at Drake's hair right at the end when they are looking back at the building the texturing looks like it did in the third game.