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Uplay stop making PC games look bad - Andrea Rene edition

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Still not a massive pain in the ass, especially compared to this gen.

While PC gaming is becoming more convenient, consoles from 10 years ago were A LOT simpler than consoles from now.

You can no longer say they're pick up and play.

The PS4 is actually a lot simpler than the PS3.
 
The anti pc people are very misguided.

I am not a pc "guy" in a lot of ways but I do a ton of gaming on it and it is just fine. I sit. I open Steam and I play. Thats it.

If you aren't a fraps/overclock/neogaffer/benchmark lunatic, and just want to sit and play, you can just sit and play. Shit looks fantastic and prices are fucking great.

The hate is so funny. Jealousy is gross.
 
Installing GTA V on my ps4 was total fucking ordeal. Installing TLOU took for-fucking-ever and my connection is perfectly good.

It ain't "the PC" its UBI, which is another reason I rarely buy their games (Valiant Hearts notwithstanding!). And what the hell are "shady downloads"? Is UBI including the "Ask toolbar" with its patches now?!
"Ask toolbar' IS Ubisoft nowadays...
You agree to download Uplay....you're basically allowing Ubisoft to fuck you in the ass
 
Or you could just run it in console mode and put everything at low settings

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C'mon guys. Give this guy a hand ... This post is pc master race approved

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I'm going back defragging my SSD now and downloading some RAM
 
Does it need to be as "simple" and convenient as a console though? With steam and origin being what they are, how much more simple do you need to make it? They are literally click and play.

It doesn't need to be and it never will be. People who don't like it should stay away.

But I'm not surprised that some people hate it and I certainly understand why they do.

Not if you know how to read. You are playing on a PC, you should read the requirements.

The "supported operating systems" are buried in small text at the bottom of the product page, there's no OS detection upon purchase or installation that warns you it may not work with your system. I know to read this but many people will miss it.

It's literally impossible to buy a title from a console digital store that will not work.

The argument isn't that the PC method is wrong, it's just saying it can be more confusing or complicated - which it can be
 
I like Andrea. I find her insight genuine, though not the most knowledgeable.

I'm a strong advocate of PC gaming but you guys have to understand that it's not simple to get into. I have a couple of friends who built mid-tier PCs but still stick to console gaming for its convenience.

A lot of people still think the PC gaming is predominantly played through mouse and keyboard only. I'd argue that the majority now supports controllers and I do think that Steam is making it simpler.
 
Considering I'm in front of my PS4 right now, seeing constant screens of "cannot download" and having to restart the download ~30 times until it actually starts, so then I can wait more time to download the game, then the update, and then hope for it to work... Nah. I'd rather deal with the same shit on an open platform, with prices that are usually cheaper.

Consoles are not what they used to be.
 
Maybe we are being too harsh here. Perhaps she was given a disessebled machine and a retail edition of windows. So she had put the thing together, install windows, drivers, ubisoft, download the game, update it.

And she did it all for truth and journalism but felt it should take less than an hour. In which case I feel she did really well.
 
A lot of people still think the PC gaming is predominantly played through mouse and keyboard only. I'd argue that the majority now supports controllers and I do think that Steam is making it simpler.
It depends on the kind of game. I know for a fact that the vast majority of my PC games have either limited or no controller support. Admittedly, console converts probably aren't playing those kinds of games.
 
that reaaaaally isnt my intention

I just remember the same stuff with The Crew and equally arguably savy people saying PC sucks cause of Uplay issues

Uplay does have issues...

Shit I just went to play Black Flag again before jumping into Unity after a 6 month break or so, and I found out my saves had been deleted, 50% completion gone because Ubisoft's cloud servers had been reformatted or some shit... a bunch of people lost their save data and couldn't get it back. No warning or anything.

I would hardly say it makes PC Gaming look bad though... It just makes Ubisoft look like they don't know what the heck they are doing. If playing a few games on Uplay is turning her away from PC gaming, maybe she just shouldn't work in games because she clearly doesn't use Steam which streamlines just about everything there is to know about PC gaming
 
that reaaaaally isnt my intention

I just remember the same stuff with The Crew and equally arguably savy people saying PC sucks cause of Uplay issues

I've been playing through Far Cry 4 and the servers are down about 1/3 times that launch it. It's ridiculous.

I don't need co-op, though it's probably very frustrating for those people, but even just waiting for the multiple errors to pop up is annoying.
 
Well PC gaming isn't that complex really, but there is truth in that Uplay sucks


Considering I'm in front of my PS4 right now, seeing constant screens of "cannot download" and having to restart the download ~30 times until it actually starts, so then I can wait more time to download the game, then the update, and then hope for it to work... Nah. I'd rather deal with the same shit on an open platform, with prices that are usually cheaper.

Consoles are not what they used to be.

Sounds like there is something wrong with your Internet or your console.

I've had mine since launch, I've downloaded tons of stuff and I've never seen a "cannot download" nor have I never needed to restart a download.
 
I actually think she is right when it comes to UbiSoft. I actually had to download a separate patch file to get the latest Splintercell to work as the download from UPlay did not work and did not ingrate the latest patch. This was probably a year or so ago so not sure they have fixed but at the time I just could believe that I had to download a separate patch for a game and manually apply it.
 
Uplay does have issues...

Shit I just went to play Black Flag again before jumping into Unity after a 6 month break or so, and I found out my saves had been deleted, 50% completion gone because Ubisoft's cloud servers had been reformatted or some shit... a bunch of people lost their save data and couldn't get it back. No warning or anything.

I would hardly say it makes PC Gaming look bad though... It just makes Ubisoft look like they don't know what the heck they are doing. If playing a few games on Uplay is turning her away from PC gaming, maybe she just shouldn't work in games because she clearly doesn't use Steam which streamlines just about everything there is to know about PC gaming

Uplay alone aren't the only ones with Cloud Save problems. Steam and PS4 have both had problems as well.
 
Of course my PC is crap...If it wasn't an outdated PC, I wouldn't have this problem.
Point being - Andrea can pop in a game on her console and be ready to play.

Having to tamper with the settings is a non-issue on consoles

Dammit, I thought those were joke posts... you are serious?

Shame.
 
Meanwhile, I'm completely unable to play GT6 because it requires extensive updates that just refuse to install for some reason.
 
She's right, PC gaming is a mess.

- When I go to EB Games, where are the PC games? I tried to find Bloodborne for Windows and they told me they didn't have it.
- I upgraded my CPU three times last week and I still can't get a stable framerate in Doom.
- I was playing online and it said I got fragged, so I downloaded a program from an ad I saw on a porn site which told me my PC was running slowly to defrag my RAM. That night someone broke into my house and stole one of my kidneys.
- I've installed every driver optimiser and downloader I could find on the internet and it hasn't made my PC faster at all, if anything it's slower than ever. Plus the turbo button on my PC must be broken, maybe it needs new drivers?

Face it PC lamers, nobody has time for that.
 
The first tweet is a legitimate grievance towards Uplay which is indeed shit. The second tweet is extremely dumb and needlessly generalizing. It's no surprise that it was pounced upon by misinformed people or by platform warriors with an agenda.
 
She's right, PC gaming is a mess.

- When I go to EB Games, where are the PC games? I tried to find Bloodborne for Windows and they told me they didn't have it.
- I upgraded my CPU three times last week and I still can't get a stable framerate in Doom.
- I was playing online and it said I got fragged, so I downloaded a program from an ad I saw on a porn site which told me my PC was running slowly to defrag my RAM. That night someone broke into my house and stole one of my kidneys.
- I've installed every driver optimiser and downloader I could find on the internet and it hasn't made my PC faster at all, if anything it's slower than ever. Plus the turbo button on my PC must be broken, maybe it needs new drivers?

Face it PC lamers, nobody has time for that.

Did you try restarting the PC?
 
Oh shit I forgot all about "defragmenting".

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(I took out "hard to put together" since that's a somewhat valid excuse. I'm trying to go for the lame cop outs)
 
Wait.... where does she mention she is downloading the files on Uplay? Am I missing a twitter post image?

Based on her post about downloading software from websites that could be "shady" It sounds like this "revamped" desktop is being updated not a game update.

SalsaShark pls
 
The first tweet I kind of agree with as I hate that. Though my worst experiance with that has been on the consoles with their shit download/install speeds. The other one through just blows my mind. I can't remember the last time I had to go to some shady site to dl updates for my games. It sounds like someone is still living in 2002 here.
 
Many Steam games that are old don't work at all on modern systems until you go in and change config files or download unofficial fan patches.

You see, this is the kind of silliness you have to deal with when it comes to talking about PCs.
"Oh, but i have to do tons of stuff to make old games work on my new system!"

Try sticking an Original Xbox game into an Xbox One and get back to me.

Sorry, but complaining about possibilities on PC you wouldn't have on any other system because you have to put effort into it annoys me.

Edit: Point was already made, and yes it is a valid point
 
Uplay is absolute shit. We can joke about this all we want (and there certainly is room for those) but if someone's first touch to PC gaming is Uplay instead of Steam? There's a serious chance it will be a negative one as seems to be the case here.
 
Well PC gaming isn't that complex really, but there is truth in that Uplay sucks




Sounds like there is something wrong with your Internet or your console.

I've had mine since launch, I've downloaded tons of stuff and I've never seen a "cannot download" nor have I never needed to restart a download.

It isn't the internet as all the 14 other devices we have connected to the network never had any problem. The PS4 is wired now, but it makes no difference.

I doubt it is the console itself because it used to work before a firmware update and all the other online features work properly, like online gaming and Netflix.

It is probably firmware related, but it has been like this for more than a month and Sony hasn't fixed it, and they don't seem to acknowledge it. I remember seeing other people with the same problem fixing it with a shitty "trick", but, apparently, the trick doesn't work anymore, just the bug.
 
PC gaming is clearly enthusiast focused.

At it's worst it's much more complicated than console gaming can be but when everything is working fine it's very similar. I run Kodi on my PC for the majority of it's up time so I click "Steam" it opens in Big Picture mode, I navigate to the game I want to play, Buy and install it and click play and it's open running at 1080p 60fps looking far better than anything on consoles.

Did this take some initial setup work? Yea, I'm an enthusiast.
Are the result better than a console ? Yea without a doubt.

If you are buying games your system can't support then it's your fault. If you want to play games on PC it does have a intelligence/attention prerequisite. It's not going to do everything for you. You might have to actual pay some attention to what you buy and what you can support.

Drivers, Updates etc are a thing of the past now. Steam, Uplay and Origin all do this for you in the background.

If you don't want to fine tune settings then GeForce experience and usually the game will give you a playable standard to start with.

If you want to start using mods/enbs/fx plugins and such then you are branching into enthusiast territory and you need knowledge requisites again.

I was a console player all last gen, I own a PS4 and an Xbox One now. I built a good gaming PC with the aid of GAF and now I want to play most of my titles on PC. I still use consoles for playing with friends and exclusives.

As it currently stands now everything is set up. Playing a game on Xbox/PS4/PC it's essentially all the same with the odd exception being the PS4 fucking around with downloads.

As for Andrea Rene moaning about how hard PC gaming is. She is playing an Alpha, She has little experience and seems a bit dense. PC Alphas are often real Alpha's not the "Alpha but really a demo" shit they push on the console crowd for hypes sakes.
She is messing around in enthusiast territory and complaining because she can't do it.

Give her a Xbox Dev kit with partner.net and she will be saying the same stuff.
 
Of course my PC is crap...If it wasn't an outdated PC, I wouldn't have this problem.
Point being - Andrea can pop in a game on her console and be ready to play.

Having to tamper with the settings is a non-issue on consoles

Except, this is an alpha of a game which does not exist to even "pop in". A alpha on consoles is also done by downloading the alpha and the required updates.

Now, if she downloaded it and it didn't work and had to download other shit to get it working then that is a PC issue, which sadly still happens on some games these days but is not as bad as it used to be, but she didn't say that, she is treating an alpha like a finished game and acting like console alphas don't need to download stuff.

Kind of weird though, I find her usually to be very well informed in the videos she is in on GT.
 
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