TheChewyWaffles
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Wow this is stupid.
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Video shows woman shoot at burglars in home invasion
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Wow this is stupid.
Here's one from last month. The robbers didn't even have a gun but still managed to murder the homeowners.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...e-suspected-robbery-article-1.2766092?0p19G=c
It's simply bullshit that 3 people with guns break into someone's house and you think they're the victims.
entremet
Member
That's because they are usually not at the domicile or store when it happens.
Seasoned burglars case their targets to avoid this stuff.
gamechanger87
Member
Here you go. In 28 percent of home robberies someone was present in the house. In 7 percent of all robberies the person present suffered some sort of violent trauma. Thus, 25 percent of the time someone is home they suffer some sort of trauma.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt
MagnaderAlpha
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Every action a person makes has consequences that are felt beyond their singular self, but people(who commit crimes) rarely care, nor think of how their negative actions impact loved ones. How are YOU hurting your parents, your family and friends when YOU decide to commit a crime. Home much value do YOU place on your own life when you decide to commit a crime where the stakes are high and getting killed is a very real possibility? It is a choice, you CHOOSE to commit a crime, you sign that invisible contract that effects all those close to you.
Another good question would be, would THEY care about those who they hurt or kill during the course of their crime? It is all good to feel sorry for someone that dies, but would they really care about someone lost during a shuffle of criminal activity? There are a lot of harden individuals who could care less about who they hurt, let alone who they kill, as long as they achieve what they came to do.
Fuck, i wish i hadn't clicked and read that link...
gamechanger87
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Yep. Pretty bad. Documentary on HBO on it as well
Stormhammer
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they are different scenarios, but people bring in the innocent neighbor that could've been killed that didn't happen. what if there were no neighboring houses
Are you freaking serious? They broke into her house and had guns. I don't know how sheltered you were/are, but yeah, I perceive that as a threat to my life. Break into someone's house, you better make sure your affairs are in order and you're straight with Jesus.
Langdon Alger
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Wow. What an awful point of view.
So I'm all for self defense, but firing multiple shots out of the house at people who are fleeing really crosses the line, particularly the last couple. Dangerous as fuck, and frankly really stretches what is self defense.
She might be in trouble if those shots are what killed the one guy.
She might be in trouble if those shots are what killed the one guy.
Some of the hyperbole in this thread is spectacular. The anti-US defense force is operating at full capacity, as expected. If three guys break down your front door, fully armed, you are talking out of your ass if you seriously think you would have time to logically plan out a response in which no one gets hurt. Incredible.
I'm not a big fan of guns, but this woman is both incredibly lucky and justified in her actions. They are armed robbers who kicked down a door and rolled in guns blazing. By acting the way she did she may have saved her own life. The extra shots may not have been necessary, but to expect someone who's just been through what she was to act completely rationally is asinine. No one can be prepared for that.
I'm not a big fan of guns, but this woman is both incredibly lucky and justified in her actions. They are armed robbers who kicked down a door and rolled in guns blazing. By acting the way she did she may have saved her own life. The extra shots may not have been necessary, but to expect someone who's just been through what she was to act completely rationally is asinine. No one can be prepared for that.
No shit people don't get shot every time. But a good percentage of burglery victims DO get shot, stabbed, raped, etc during home invasions. If your solution to a situation in which three armed men come crashing through your door is to lie down and take a bullet (or something else) because you feel so compassionate for these poor persecuted souls, then fine. Up to you. But don't judge someone else just because they exercise their right to defend themself.
gutter_trash
Banned
If the injured burglar was still in possession of his firearm, he remained a threat to the home owners
BananasWithGuns
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Possibly, but generally someone fleeing is not considered a threat. I mean she fired 4-5 times while standing by her door instead of closing it, that's pretty sketchy.
therealjay
Neo Member
Hate to say it because I'm against guns as a general rule but this is why I own a handgun.
Never take it out with me. DOn't open carry or have a license for concealed carry but the US is what it is and there are a shitload of criminals out there with serious hardware. I'm going to have some of my own just in case.
Never take it out with me. DOn't open carry or have a license for concealed carry but the US is what it is and there are a shitload of criminals out there with serious hardware. I'm going to have some of my own just in case.
I cannot fucking believe some of you are going to sit here and blame the person who defended herself against armed robbers. Are you fucking serious? SHE'S THE BAD GUY? She could've been raped and killed, and she defended herself.
Someone died. Guess what? Don't rob someone's house. That's an idiotic fucking move that comes with the risk of self defense.
Get over yourselves. This woman did what was necessary.
EDIT: Armed for intimidation... I've seen it all.
Someone died. Guess what? Don't rob someone's house. That's an idiotic fucking move that comes with the risk of self defense.
Get over yourselves. This woman did what was necessary.
EDIT: Armed for intimidation... I've seen it all.
Good for her for trying to defend herself against armed burglars, yeah her form was awful but being in a situation like that I'm sure proper form wasn't on her mind at that moment. Also I hate when some people say we should have sympathy for the robber that died because he was a human being, fuck that he was armed and ready to use that thing, am I supposed to feel sorry for him? Might as well feel bad for Hitler and all the other scumbags who did awful things because they were human beings.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Once a man is in your home anything you do to him is niiiice and legal.
Oh believe me, he isn't trolling.
You try to rob somebody with a gun? Prepare to get shot.
Mammoth Jones
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No one is going to have range form in a situation like that. Adrenaline alone is going to throw half that shit out the window.
Exactly, I probably would of been the same way especially if I just woke up from all the noise they were making.
TwEE-N-Toast
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I like that single shot she gets off on the end after a little pause. Probably used this opportunity to take out her neighbour's tacky lawn gnome.
I'm convinced some of y'all don't live in the real world.
Yes - they came into the place where she was living with guns out. So yes, they were threatening her. You can't be serious with this.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Good.
Three guys came into a woman's home, pointing guns at her. What the fuck do you think should have happened?
She obviously should have offered them refreshments while they robbed and possibly physically assaulted her. Duh...
SuperAndroid17
Member
It's a shame that two of them got away.
These are worst type of humans. They don't belong in any kind of society.
These are worst type of humans. They don't belong in any kind of society.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
That one dude got layed out.
He hasn't explained anything he's said, he just keeps retorting and trying to one-up. If he's trolling for laughs he has a terrible sense of humor.
It is always telling that those trying to defend the robbers refuse to admit how they believe she should have acted. They can never own up to it and will always try to handwave it by saying shit like 'well every situation is different so I won't/can't say...'.
A Link to the Past
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But that then begs the question, if you can find an instance of one dangerous thing being used to save someone's life, should that stand to reason that her right to safety is more valuable than the many other people's rights?
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Once you've broken into someone's house to steal and harm you've fortified your rights IMO.
| Praxis |
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The minute you arm yourself with a gun, with the intent of using it to rob, threaten or hurt don't be surprised when someone else with a gun shoots your dumb ass.
A Link to the Past
Banned
I'm referring to other incidents where legal ownership of a gun leads to innocent deaths, not the person who died as part of this home invasion.
It's amazing how you're able to tell what their intentions were by simply watching the video.
She should've just been a good citizen and allowed them to break into her home, yell at her while pointing guns at her head, and intimidate the shit out of her, am I rite?
Mr.Monitor
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Even as someone who is pretty anti-gun, I have no sympathy for these punks. They knew what they were getting into when they busted into someone's place with guns. As you see a lot on neogaf, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Kite
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F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I am not happy with the loss of life, but I can't say that I have much sympathy for the home invaders. Tragic situation all around, but she did what she had to do to survive. I mean it all took place in a few seconds. Armed men were in the house. I don't think she can be blamed for that.
starchild excalibur
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Textbook example of the type of situation I'm ok with gun ownership on. 3 guys came in, armed with their own guns, ready to steal - if not possibly harm her as well. She did good, even if it's unfortunate one of the idiots got killed in the process.
Yeah, what a stupid woman, they were just trying to rob her. Nothing wrong with that. She should've opened the door and offered them some coffee. Terrible service, would not rob again!
YELP! review: 1 star.
Robber #1 says: Wish I could've given this house ZERO stars. Crept in the joint in the dead of night, and the owner had the NERVE to shoot at us. Oh, and she killed one of our guys. And then reported us to the police! Bad service all around.
schroddycat
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You're stupid too. If a gang of dangerous robbers were robbing your house while you had a gun to defend yourself, you'd prefer to have a peace negotiation with them or dial 911 first and throw every initiative you had out of the window?
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