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Vita Heaven 2 Electric Bugaloo 2/18 - Zero new games, massive price drop, Vita RIP
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TDLink
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No, if Nintendo had simply cut the price of the 3DS and not delivered software along with it the system would not have picked up steam again. It was the release of Ocarina of Time 3D shortly before the cut plus the releases of Starfox 64 3D, Mario 3D Land, and Mario Kart 7 shortly after it couple with the price cut that really turned the system around.
The price cut is only half of the equation and Vita doesn't have the other half.
DiscoJer
Member
How is a bunch of trailers from games already announced a great showing?
The price drop sure, but if it's anything like in the US, the Vita has been on discount for that price for months now. I got my Vita for $190 on clearance at Target.
People in Japan already know what's scheduled to come out - they need to be reassured that there are more games than they already know about.
Though it was nice to know that Dragon's Crown and FFX weren't canceled...
wow, just wow at your reactions. 
why are you even defending this event is beyond me.
1. don't tell us that this vita heaven was planned just yesterday, because they are teasing for this event since last summer. i for one, thought that they may be gathering all planned games for the system to reveal with gameplay but that's not what happened here.
2. some people are bashing the past nintendo directs for just showing announced games. they are even shitting on people for being so hyped about it and throws down directs for being uneventful. :/
3. props to sony for dropping the price, but i think its too late. and without announcing a game that will lure the buyers like the 3ds did with its price drop with mario kart, monster hunter and mario 3d land. and don't tell me that those games shown today are console sellers, there's already japanese centered games already released for the system like miku, but it didn't make a dent like they're expecting to.
4. great work on that vita games list, but let me point out that those games maybe appealing to you but not on the general buying public. that's what matters now, that's why there's a VITA RIP on the thread title. you're happy with that list because that are games coming to YOUR vita. who isn't happy that there's games for their console? but what sony wants is for OTHER people to buy the damn console and without appealing games, those weekly/monthly charts will not good for vita.
why are you even defending this event is beyond me.
1. don't tell us that this vita heaven was planned just yesterday, because they are teasing for this event since last summer. i for one, thought that they may be gathering all planned games for the system to reveal with gameplay but that's not what happened here.
2. some people are bashing the past nintendo directs for just showing announced games. they are even shitting on people for being so hyped about it and throws down directs for being uneventful. :/
3. props to sony for dropping the price, but i think its too late. and without announcing a game that will lure the buyers like the 3ds did with its price drop with mario kart, monster hunter and mario 3d land. and don't tell me that those games shown today are console sellers, there's already japanese centered games already released for the system like miku, but it didn't make a dent like they're expecting to.
4. great work on that vita games list, but let me point out that those games maybe appealing to you but not on the general buying public. that's what matters now, that's why there's a VITA RIP on the thread title. you're happy with that list because that are games coming to YOUR vita. who isn't happy that there's games for their console? but what sony wants is for OTHER people to buy the damn console and without appealing games, those weekly/monthly charts will not good for vita.
SneakyStephan
Banned
So you're saying the price went up? Vita has been 187 euro for months here....
lol@ this thread btw, 50 dollar price cut and people still aren't happy.
Remember before the vita reveal guys? '500 dollars LOL' 'there is NO way it'll cost under 400 dollars'
Remember that?
Now you piss and moan when it costs 200...
Yea considering that the conference was with such short notice, it wasn't THAT bad.
I am disappointed with no new game announcement, but what they showed seem pretty good.
I was happy to see Dragon's Crown and FFXHD, even though they didn't show much.
The lack of JRPG, except Sen no Kiseki and FFX HD, is only disappointing for me.
Hopefully there are bigger unannounced title in development and we will hear about them in the future.
I am disappointed with no new game announcement, but what they showed seem pretty good.
I was happy to see Dragon's Crown and FFXHD, even though they didn't show much.
The lack of JRPG, except Sen no Kiseki and FFX HD, is only disappointing for me.
Hopefully there are bigger unannounced title in development and we will hear about them in the future.
Huh, the price drop was near the release of OoT3D and StarFox3D, the following holiday came Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart.
The price cut helped but really the software picked up the slack pretty quickly.
True but the lack of content will make people not even consider your offering at whatever price you're offering.
That's the lesson of the GC at 99$.
Your word.
Your phrase didn't name the competition but strongly implied it.
If you explicitly said
The software library is so different pre and post cut it's not even funny.
Seriously look it up, software release pre price cut didn't get to sell better because 3DS was suddenly selling.
Seriously no one was interested in Steel Diver and that didn't change with the price cut.
Also 3D or not it still plays DS games and they ARE appealing.
We'll see, I'm not putting my money on a bet here I've seen stranger things happening.
It may not have been "planned yesterday" but the final date and time of the event was revealed yesterday, with no chance of hype or build up because it was so short notice. Expectations for the event should have been set accordingly once it was known that the time between confirmation and the event taking place was so short.
It's almost as if this video was geared towards informing the people that are buying a Vita after the price drop.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Maybe announcements are being saved for Feb 20.
And nice price cut! I hope Sony does the same in the US, though they don't have games to back it up.
And nice price cut! I hope Sony does the same in the US, though they don't have games to back it up.
ColdBlooder
Banned
I really don't think a price drops gonna cut it in Europe: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B009LL5BU8/
i guess people assumed that sony was gonna "bring it", because that vita heaven event was a long time coming. and with an announcement like that, most would assume that they're going for the nintendo direct approach of "bam here's an event where we announce a bunch of new cool games". we can't blame people for comparing it to nintendo directs and being hype with the event themselves.
In a scenario where the Vita doesn't have a dearth of notable new game announcements, with notable being defined as games that can push hardware sales, focusing on the upcoming lineup wouldn't be as much of an issue.
Also a number of the games shown didn't have a specific release date beyond 2013. Which shows that there was scope to include new game announcements, and leads to the conclusion that major software support isn't coming.
The price cut will also be to retailers, so they will pass it on.
I'd be very surprised if we don't hear about a price cut on Wednesday along with one for the PS3.
It's either to phase one of them out, or to just try and generate interest in the 3G model.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
Thats interesting...I dont see why it makes sense to sell the 3G and Wifi only model at the same price? Are they planning on phasing the Wifi only model out?
Phasing the 3G model out would make more sense.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
They announced PSO2 and a couple of minor games at the previous vita heaven.
They announced a price drop at this vita heaven. With no new games.
Sammy Samusu
Member
OMFG fhmbguif5u8jde6uf5ikj :lol
Ahh well, guess little thing helps?
Seems Sony is angling for momentum to be generated from the price cut like: (1) slightly increased customer uptake -> (2) slightly increased 3. party interest -> (3) repeat (1).
Seems a bit on the "too little, too late" side in my, albeit narrow, perspective.
Seems Sony is angling for momentum to be generated from the price cut like: (1) slightly increased customer uptake -> (2) slightly increased 3. party interest -> (3) repeat (1).
Seems a bit on the "too little, too late" side in my, albeit narrow, perspective.
Glass Rebel
Member
Yeah, I mentioned it earlier, I can get a Vita with a game at this price. And I'm in Switzerland, the land the Wii was sold for ~400$ at launch.
What are you talking about? Most people didn't know about this event till yesterday or the day before, including Kagari who's usually very clued up on these things. Looking at the list of games, plus the substantial price drop, coupled with it being a sudden out of the blue event, I can't see how anyone wouldn't be somewhat pleased with the outcome unless their expectations were unrealistic.
Anyway, I'm sure more announcements will follow. Some that are less Japan centric.
funkystudent
Member
They should have had a new game to go along with the cut.
Hopefully when the price drop hits the west they have a big game to announce that also gets peoples attention. Maybe we will hear about it at the meeting.
Hopefully when the price drop hits the west they have a big game to announce that also gets peoples attention. Maybe we will hear about it at the meeting.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
Why? Its possible for them to make additional revenue through the data plans.
Sony is not operating in a vaccum.
Nintendo does this regularly and in people's opinion, they do it unexpectedly and bring new games to the party.
Seriously look up the thread coming up for the latest ND and you'll see people weren't expecting ANYTHING at all (other were expecting unrealistic stuffs too).
It wasn't unrealistic to expect a new game.
Yeah this is done so that they can capitalise on the big software releases that are coming in the next few weeks. We'll see if it works.
Still have to buy a memory card!
when i said its a long time coming, i'm talking about this..
Vita Heaven 2 Tease - June 2012
after reading that, i thought they were going to "bring it".
i guess that's why they didn't give a timeframe on when are they gonna do it, but from that statement, people would assume they were ready to announce something substantial. ready as in they had the confidence to announce new and cool games at an event they are going to do 8 hours later.
what baffles me is that the Vita was ever considered alive in the first place
the PSP was one of the greatest systems of all time and got so much grief, the vita is one of the worst and gets a free pass.
i said it earlier but almost the entire library of vita games consists of three things
-multiplatform games
-crap versions of ps3 games, normally made by "handheld developers"
-cheap knockoffs of exclusives from other systems (monster hunter being the biggest offender here)
the PSP was one of the greatest systems of all time and got so much grief, the vita is one of the worst and gets a free pass.
i said it earlier but almost the entire library of vita games consists of three things
-multiplatform games
-crap versions of ps3 games, normally made by "handheld developers"
-cheap knockoffs of exclusives from other systems (monster hunter being the biggest offender here)
Because none of those games have wide market appeal, which means they don't sell a crapton, which means those games will never have wide market appeal, etc.
This isn't about game quality, this is about how many people actually want the games.
Not when it doesn't sell.
But the "additional revenue" from data plans would mean it'd make sense to sell it at the same price as the Wifi model.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Is this the same price as 3DS XL now?
BassForever
Member
Wow I almost stayed up for this glad I didn't. Seriously just when you think things couldn't get worse for the Vita Sony flies in and goes "not so fast!" And shows they have even less then we thought.
Mailenstein
Member
Almost. 3DS XL is 10 bucks cheaper.
They also seem to have trouble persuading 1st party studios to make games for Vita.
The price drop & cluster of releases in March should produce a nice bump in Japanese sales, from June onwards though things begin to look pretty barren again
They can offer to fund but noooooooooo they rather give $40 million to market Black ops declassified scam.
Dead Prince
Banned
Price drop should gave happened sooner. If this doesn't help vita then there's no hopes for third party support. The event didn't help. Now the 2oth should just tell us the pricee of vita and that's it
When should we expect a Western feed telling Western people about a price cut for vita in the West and some games made for the Western market then?
E3?
Exterminieren
Banned
EDIT: Never mind.
20th. Minus the Western market games, except maybe KillZone and another UnCharted Sequel.
What games on the horizon for the western market besides Killzone and Soul sacrifice?
This was not called Game Heaven.
Other than E3 and Gamescom Sony doesn't do internet video conferences in the West. Expect price cuts and other announcements on the Playstation Blog or via press releases instead.
PuppetMaster
Member
What are you smoking? My Vita game collection is already WAYYY better than my PSP collection ever was. And it as only been a year. Not to mention the Vita plays PSP games too making it automatically at least as good.
Shit is getting pretty stupid!
All these similar games... when will people start to call them a fucking genre instead of a copy of Monster Hunter (and Monster Hunter is even a copy by itself).
Coloress_Kafka
Member
Most likely Destination Playstation on the 25th. It's a retailer conference but they usually announce stuff on the blog inconjunction with it.