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Vita Heaven 2 Electric Bugaloo 2/18 - Zero new games, massive price drop, Vita RIP
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peanutbutterlatte
Member
So... very little in the way of news occurred? I'm guessing this means the Vita won't get even a cameo mention on Wednesday, though I expected as much.
Sony at least will promote the connectivity of PS4 and Vita. They have to. Unlike PS3, PS4 has been built from ground up along with Vita.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
But anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. Would this be a huge draw to the general public, when they can spend that money on tablets/better smartphones/new gaming consoles later this year? I think the chances are slim at best.
metalslimer
Member
It's also on PS3. Going by the sales of previous HD ports this won't do that much anyway.
Some are saying price drop on the 20th presentation. I'd set my expectations to not have this announcement ... then be surprised.
Regarding this "show", I'm glad about the price cut. It would have been nice to get one or two new games announced.
It's amazing how many PS3 ports there are on the Vita rather than Vita-exclusive games, considering that some people derided the 3DS for N64 remakes/the GBA for SNES ports.
The 3DS, technologically speaking, is far removed from the IOS/Android ecosystem. The Vita isn't. They very clearly care about putting content on mobile devices. The 3DS and Vita aren't proving anything.
That's not wisdom at all. It's just blind market worshipping combined with silly reductionism.
Meant the game will be released on the PS3 as well.
Regarding HD ports, Stranger's Wrath is a good example of the Vita port selling more. Now I can't riffle off more examples, just this recent one.
grimshawish
Banned
PS3 streaming could be done just as badly and expensively on a cheaper piece of hardware. Heck without the internals they coukd give the screen a boost.
PS3 streaming is hardly a long term solution neither.
PS3 streaming is hardly a long term solution neither.
A portable PS3 over WiFi for that price I think is a big deal. No idea how the mass market would react, but given the general popularity of the PS3, I'm guessing quite well.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
How do you know that though? Given Sony's current lack of gravitas concerning the Vita, I'm not sure why they'd build their home console around it. Unless, that is, they were trying to emulate the Wii U, but not sure why they would.
That's not to say the Vita won't have connectivity with the PS4, Remote Play and the like is guaranteed.
RumblingRosco
Member
Just for educational purposes, the environment station that you're referring to is most commonly known as a "recycling center" in the U.S. Even a lot of retail stores, such as Best Buy or Wal-Mart, will often times accept old electronics for proper disposal. Some cities offer recycling pick-up at your house once a week (just like they'd do trash/garbage pick-up) and you can often times discard old electronics using that door-to-door recycling method.
On-topic: I hope this price drop helps, but I'm afraid it won't do much besides bump up sales for a few weeks and then they'll fall back down close to previous levels.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I guess we'll agree to disagree.
Plus, the idea that Sony is going to magically give all PS3 games for free is something I'll believe when I see it.
Vita plan and PS4 plan supposed to be made within SCEI internally within same time frame. Unless Sony had 2 completely separate team without any connection whatsoever (which I highly doubt given that Sony's internal hardware team doesn't have that much manpower these days) Vita and PS4 are both made by the same team.
XOMTOR
Member
I can't see that PS4 is going to save Vita but I can see the appeal of Gaikai streaming for some, myself included. Gotta wonder though how long the Vita's battery would last constantly streaming a WiFi signal back and forth to Gaikai servers. Doesn't Vita already shut off the WiFi signal every chance it gets to conserve battery power?
Not for free. For the price of the game. I suppose they could always charge a subscription fee too, a la PSN Plus Pro or something.
Games are all pretty much going to be Day1 digital on the upcoming consoles and you'd only need your own Orbis/PS3 to render the content.
metalslimer
Member
They aren't. The costs wouldn't support that kind of thing at all. Maybe some freebies for PS+ but people expecting the PS4 and especially Vita to have free PS3 games galore are out of their minds.
Maybe its just me but had they announced some new games, would they really had any affect? I mean Nintendo has MH, DQ, SE, Altus, and etc so what new game would have really helped the Vita anyway? I feel like the Vita been a zombie for a while now and nothing short of monster hunter can bring this thing back from the dead.
Good to see Dragon Crown still alive though.
Good to see Dragon Crown still alive though.
Your point?
Announcing new games that come out in a year won't sell systems this month. Sony can't wait another year or two to sell Vitas.
They've got two noteworthy titles hitting the Vita in the next couple of weeks. One is an established IP with a big new iteration coming on only Vita and PC. The other is a new IP exclusive to the unit that Sony has been hyping quite a bit. Both are from a genre that is strong within the Japanese market. Sony capitalizing on the close release of these two by slashing the price, bundling these games with new system colors at said reduced price, and effectively trying to re-launch PS+ in Japan is the "big news" here.
People complain that Sony isn't doing anything to sell the system. For Japan this is doing a lot to try and sell the system. Coupled with a strong marketing push should result in at least a month long hardware sales spike in Japan. At that point they can start making a much stronger argument to Japanese 3rd parties and begin hyping what's next for the system.
michaelius
Banned
Glad i fell asleep now. So about what i expected, Sony still has no clue how to sell or support the Vita. A price drop is a good start but that cannot be all you got. Biggest game you showed ws an HD PS2 port, someone at Sony really needs to read that and think on what that means. They need a consistent, strong cohesive library. They have no new games to show because their are none, they fucked up like they did with psp only this time the third parties didnt have games already in production to just finish and ship. Sony just doesnt get it yet, if they want to save Vita they need to step up their own studios or start moneyhatting third parties, thats it. Holding an event and then showing nothing new just makes people feel worse about your product, regardless of price cut.
I think the event did a really good job with the price cut announcement, showing a lot of footage from upcoming games and making clear that a few games like FFX and Dragon's Crown are far from canceled. Yeah it sucks for no new games announced but it doesn't mean that the event was not good. They also need to focus and promote the stuff that it is actually coming soon, they used this event to tell people "Here are the games being released soon, now you can buy one at a lower price". Marketing wise, it's well conceived.
I want PS2 classics on Vita.
was really hoping this to happen. maybe Feb 20
AuthenticM
Member
Well, at least we know now they won't be talking about the Vita this wednesday.
Don't be surprised if they do. This was probably to ,lighten the load of what they otherwise would have spoken about on the 20th.
Hi i'm Caleb
Member
I feel asleep, but boy am I glad I didn't stay up for that. A price cut is kool but, I already own a Vita.
No new games you say? Fiddlesticks.
No new games you say? Fiddlesticks.
XOMTOR
Member
How would that work successfully when the majority of PS3 owners have their collection on physical disk? I could perhaps see your PSN purchased being made available via GaiKai but there's no way Sony would allow you to have access to your physical games, thus diminishing its value significantly. It'd likely be a similar situation as Vita's backward compatibility with PSP games, and we all know how great that is for UMD owners.
Sure. So all adventure games are designed badly, because they don't sell millions of copies. And the Toyota Camry is the best designed car in the world, because it sells the most units in the US. If that's your reality then I'm glad I'm blind to it.
when you have all these games coming out in the space of 30 days(albeit not huge system sellers) sony probably figured to put them in the limelight and do a price cut as well to increase sales. next month when they are all released they can then announce the next wave of software.
btw did they name this vita game heaven 2? this seemed more like an info dump. the last game heaven had new announcement so me thinks the next one will be called vita heaven 2 and have a lead up time.
btw did they name this vita game heaven 2? this seemed more like an info dump. the last game heaven had new announcement so me thinks the next one will be called vita heaven 2 and have a lead up time.
I want PS2 classics on Vita.
That would be amazing. There are lots of PS2 RPG's that I'd replay on the Vita due to being able to put it in sleep mode, and continue playing when I want.
Current assumptions are either that you'd have to re buy the games digitally off PSN, or that the PS3 could validate the purchase off the disc. Supposedly all PS3 games have some sort of stamp imprinted that can be read to verify it. Not sure this is plausible mind. But there are different options on the cards.
If such a system was implemented, I might consider selling some of my physical copies in place of digital, but I'm hoping there's some way around it.
Parmenides
Banned
Vita RIP? I'd say no,but it's a tough environment.
The Japanese handheld market enjoyed amazing growth between the years 2005 to 2007.Since then,all signs point to a sharp decline in sales.Not even Nintendo is immune
It's hard to sustain two handhelds in a shrinking market,especially if the second platform loses Monster Hunter at a time when japanese companies are showing an alarming decline in their ability to create hit titles.However after hitting certain price points,handhelds do not need a strong support to move hardware units early in the cycle, as evidenced by the PSP until March 2008.
It's a tough environment,but the Vita is solvable.The price cut was the right decision.The next step is to sell 1 million units in 2013.
The Japanese handheld market enjoyed amazing growth between the years 2005 to 2007.Since then,all signs point to a sharp decline in sales.Not even Nintendo is immune
It's hard to sustain two handhelds in a shrinking market,especially if the second platform loses Monster Hunter at a time when japanese companies are showing an alarming decline in their ability to create hit titles.However after hitting certain price points,handhelds do not need a strong support to move hardware units early in the cycle, as evidenced by the PSP until March 2008.
It's a tough environment,but the Vita is solvable.The price cut was the right decision.The next step is to sell 1 million units in 2013.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Anything announced for the US?
metalslimer
Member
Aiming for the stars.
I want PS2 classics on Vita.
This is the real failing of the Vita's design if you ask me.
It should have been a contemporary update of the PS2's hardware with the additional memory etc. included, where the system uses the extra horsepower and memory to upscale and run post-processing IQ/AA over the top a la PCSX2. This would have given it full PS1 and PS2 compatibility out of the box, and easily handled PSP via emulation like it currently does.
At that point they could flood PSN with PS2 re-releases that would cost 3rd parties nothing, and Sony could dangle reduced royalties on those re-releases in exchange for new software commitments.
Simultaneously they should then have pursued the "indie" games scene for portable exclusives like Minecraft, Binding of Isaac, Terraria, etc..
Then on the first party front they could transition their established PS2 era IPs into permanent, exclusive fixtures of their portable line (Jak, Sly, Medieval, etc.). This would entice traditional Sony fans and make a clear distinction between their handheld and console lines.
End result would have likely been a cheaper system manufactured entirely in-house with an instant-library of classics and a long term road map of noteworthy exclusives.
But for some reason Sony still believes that people care about "console on the go" gaming. People just want good games on the go that have more depth than Angry Birds.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
All I wanted to hear... Dragon's crown! More than enough for me ! Any firm release date?
! Any firm release date?