Ok, i admit i didn't get to that point in the game, so you are probably correct.
But nevertheless framing it as a white vs black thing, when in reality it was white people who suffered the most from fascism seems wrong to me.
"nevertheless framing it as a white vs black thing"
But get this.....that is how it might really be viewed if that ever happened though. The developer is not saying what it is as a matter of literal fact in this world, they are showing a glimpse into how people would react.
" in reality it was white people who suffered the most from fascism " If this really happened, do you legit believe not a single person would say stuff like that simply because that is a fact?
Put it this way.... more people in the United States Of America who are white are killed by the police. Does that mean in a video game you'd make ONLY the white people talk about police killings and brutality? Do you not understand that what we know as FACT has next to nothing to do with how people actually behave? So we might know that for sure its more white people killed by the police, but the reality is....those marches, protest, looting and unrest were more felt and shown by the black community.
Its not saying what I want it to be, its saying what I KNOW THE REALITY TO BE OF THAT OUTCOME. So it wouldn't surprise me if someone made that comment in real life if what happens in the game really happened, as sure...you know for a fact about that, that doesn't mean all the characters in the game know, care or will express the same view. You can't mirror the characters to behave as if they are in some vacuum. You know that as a person to be a fact, but come on now bud, you also know regardless of that fact, people will have different views. It would be like me making a game and saying "in reality, all races are the same, so my characters will reflect that" (and I'm making a game referenced from LA in 1994). I'm sure I know that to be true.......what on earth does that have to do with making the game when we know regardless of what someone knows to be true, has no relevance to other people.
My take on it is simple. If it exist in real life, put it in the game. Even folks who hate activist and folks who always argue social politcs....consider this, they exist in real life, why would they NOT EXIST IN A GAME REFERENCED OF REAL LIFE? I hate murders too, my game going to have zero murder? I hate rapist too, nothing like that going on in my game? At some point you must realize it has nothing to do with what you want reality to be based on what you know to be true, it has to do with that you also know people exist RIGHT NOW that disagree with you, so in a world referenced from our own, you really believe no one would disagree with you then and have different views even in light of facts?
Its why I was ok with the N word being used in Mafia 3 and I'm black. Its not saying I'd like to be called that, its saying its based on a time where folks legit said stuff like that, if I agree with it or not is irrelevant to that. I may not like racist, but they exist in real life, why would they suddenly not exist in a game with humans?
Seems like every big "cinematic" style AAA game comes with a load of arguing over who it panders too and who is happy about something in the game and who is butthurt about something in the game.
10000% Agreed and good read on a through post. Its why I never base what I purchase based on that nonsense. The same side worried about something being forced in a game, then ignores that the same thing can be stated about the games they already play. Why stop at women and POC, thats an awful amount of white dudes in those games, must be da "aGenDAz" lol
They don't even get they are arguing the same dumb points. I 100% agree with you too that in a different time, we never got junk articles making those claims about any game, but its not as if we never had religion, politics etc and I'm sure all developers have some views on that. They had just as much ability to alter what they put in their games then as they do today. I've never had an issue with it as in film, books, television etc all have the ability for someone to have this in their work. I simply don't care. They have free will. Folks who want to argue about it being "forced" in a game, must consider by that logic all views are "forced" in works referencing real life.
A game set in New York, a Jewish person walks buy "must be an agenda"
Person of color "must be an agenda"
Homeless person "must be an agenda"
Italian person "must be an agenda"
Homosexual person "must be an agenda"
Asian person "must be an agenda"
Guy folds pizza slice "must be an agenda by the thin crust pizza industry to push their THIN CRUST VIEWS DOWN OUR THROATS" lol
So if someone can see this in a game and react this way, have they not been to New York and seen the people? Have they not been to any major city in America? Have they not read a book, watched a movie or TV show either?
At some point its just beyond logic to even see those views as rational. Come back to us from Nintendo one day lol , got a lot of gamers left that just play games for fun and don't worry so much about who the developer prays to or votes for lol
