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[KingSnake]

"sent to die", lol, as if launched on the same day was "sent to live forever".

Again, so many people care for the Wii U version, it's unbelievable. So many concerned that it's going to be cancelled. Not knowing the reality, one could think Wii U is so loved here.

 

[MetalGuardian]

Why on earth would they delay it instead of outright cancel it? This is bizarre. I really don't expect this to ever come out for the system, unless it's digital only

 

[Saty]

1. Ubisoft has released in the past PC ports up to a year later. That didn't stop those versions to do well enough that the sequels kept being released on the platform. So no, using late releases as excuse of the sku not being viable doesn't fly.

2. Ubisoft has already released two of its biggest core IP's on the Wii U, day and date with other versions. They still sold pitifully. However, what did sell decently were the JD and Rayman games - and those will be still made for the Wii U.

Ubisoft are just re-alining their output based on the user-base spending.

 

[ElTorro]

Why on earth would they delay it instead of outright cancel it?

It's very plausible that they are just rescheduling manpower from the less profitable Wii U version to other tasks, especially since the games has already been delayed and is apparently coming in hot.

 

[Yagharek]

"sent to die", lol, as if launched on the same day was "sent to live forever".

Again, so many people care for the Wii U version, it's unbelievable. So many concerned that it's going to be cancelled. Not knowing the reality, one could think Wii U is so loved here.

The Wii U has some genuinely excellent games out already. Thats why it is appreciated by many on gaf. That is independent of the system being a commercial disaster.

Anyway, I wonder if the delayed version of watchdogs might be released at a budget price instead? That might drive sales of that version instead of it selling against already discounted versions on the other platforms.

 

[Mlatador]

"sent to die", lol, as if launched on the same day was "sent to live forever".

Again, so many people care for the Wii U version, it's unbelievable. So many concerned that it's going to be cancelled. Not knowing the reality, one could think Wii U is so loved here.

No, they are just eagerly awaiting its cancellation, so that they have another reason to post 35 "what does Nintendo need to change" threads a day.

 

[DVCY201]

So this is essentially Assassin's Creed 3 all over again? All the people who WANT this game immediately are going to buy it on all the other platforms, leaving the Wii U to die once more.

Great, so I can prolly expect a shoddy port job on top of that, that has worse textures and framerate. Ubisoft, you make it so hard to justify supporting you on the Wii U.

 

[cyberheater]

No, they are just eagerly awaiting it's cancellation, so that they have another reason to post 35 "what does Nintendo need to change" threads a day.

Some of us like seeing the nails being driven into the coffin.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Didn't have the patience to save this for Thursday?

Some of us like seeing the nails being driven into the coffin.

Well at least you're honest LOL

 

[Glass Joe]

Some of us like seeing the nails being driven into the coffin.

High quality posts like this sure drive civil discussion.

But back to the thread, it's interesting they say they're delaying instead of cancelling. I do wonder if they feel that they've put enough work into it that they should release it eventually. Maybe they do have some cool gamepad options worked out, or what they do have runs and looks good. Or maybe they just want to soften the blow for when they do cancel it, since less people would care by then.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Delayed = Canceled in this case

I guess that's the end of Ubi on WiiU, unless they decide to continue publishing Just Dance on it.

Or a new Rayman. Considering that Legends sold more on U than PS360 combined.

 

[Zombie James]

Didn't have the patience to save this for Thursday?

What's happening Thursday?

 

[btkadams]

Or a new Rayman. Considering that Legends sold more on U than PS360 combined.

source? i seriously doubt that.

 

[Pikma]

Ubisoft "It's not cancelled"
NeoGAF: "lol so dead, it's cancelled"
Dat reading comprehension

 

[Mlatador]

Some of us like seeing the nails being driven into the coffin.

I think console wars are just stupid and fucking annoying.

 

[cafemomo]

Ubisoft "It's not cancelled"

Promises can be broken

 

[rokkerkory]

Coming 6 months later I bet... THE definitive version.

Actually this is prob a good thing to allocate right attention to the Wii U version.

 

[cyberheater]

But back to the thread, it's interesting they say they're delaying instead of cancelling. I do wonder if they feel that they've put enough work into it that they should release it eventually. Maybe they do have some cool gamepad options worked out, or what they do have runs and looks good. Or maybe they just want to soften the blow for when they do cancel it, since less people would care by then.

The fact that they are taking developers off the WiiU version to work on other versions speaks volumes. They know that the other versions will make them guaranteed income.

Now I personally believe that they have development issues with the WiiU version. I think they've done the sums and realised that it's simply not worth paying the extra dev time on the WiiU version because they know they won't get a good return on the investment. If that is true then the WiiU version of Watch Dogs is dead.

 

[Yagharek]

No, they are just eagerly awaiting its cancellation, so that they have another reason to post 35 "what does Nintendo need to change" threads a day.

Down this path madness lies. Try to ignore the frothing elements.

 

[prag16]

Whelp, preorder cancelled. Eventual steam sale it is (provided it even turns out to be halfway decent). If they do still release it, I'm sure it'll be at full price with low framerate and no DLC months late.

Some of us like seeing the nails being driven into the coffin.

The other day, I predicted MASSIVE schadenfreude if/when this gets cancelled. Looks like I was right, and it didn't even ACTUALLY have to cancel for the celebrations to start.

I wasn't around in the period during which everyone realized the Vita is a failure. Were there so many gleeful people circle jerking over that?

 

[Patryn]

Ubisoft "It's not cancelled but we're ceasing work on that version and redistributing the team to work on the other versions"
NeoGAF: "lol so dead, it's cancelled"
Dat reading comprehension

Fixed.

 

[cyberheater]

I wasn't around in the period during which everyone realized the Vita is a failure. Were there so many gleeful people circle jerking over that?

The Vita isn't dead just yet.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

It's either cancelled or sent to die; one's as bad as the other.

Sending it to die gives Ubisoft a better excuse for pulling future support. I mean, look at its sales compared to other platforms!

Spoiler

the Wii U version would bomb regardless

 

[Pikma]

Promises can be broken

So? That's not what I'm critizicing. It's that people have the assurance that they are always right, not even an official statement is enough to prove them otherwise, they only hear what they want to hear. Like when people were sure Titanfall would come out on PS4.

 

[greg400]

source? i seriously doubt that.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/427424/wii-u-rayman-legends-outsells-all-other-formats/

 

[KingSnake]

Anyway, I wonder if the delayed version of watchdogs might be released at a budget price instead? That might drive sales of that version instead of it selling against already discounted versions on the other platforms.

I think that they just didn't decided yet for that. They are under pressure to release the game as fast as possible and make it good. After they finish with this they will take a decision for the Wii U version. It will depend also on the reception of the game, because that's why Alien game was canceled. If it's a success there is nothing stopping them from releasing some definitive edition (because of the Gamepad) or just cancel it if it costs too much.

But to pretend that it is some kind of conspiracy or Ubisoft is afraid of announcing the cancellation it's all kind of crazy.

 

[raschi]

Is there a 3rd party that actually deserves success on the Wii U? Apart from indies I can't think of any right now.

 

[prag16]

The Vita isn't dead just yet.

Neither is the Wii U. But they're both failures.

 

[Chitown B]

I hope Watch Dogs is June 30th.

Gives me enough time to finish Thief, Dark Souls 1 & 2, Titanfall, and South Park.

 

[btkadams]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/427424/wii-u-rayman-legends-outsells-all-other-formats/

isn't that just first week sales?

 

[cyberheater]

Neither is the Wii U. But they're both failures.

One of them isn't doing great. The other is a massive failure.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

"We made the difficult decision to further delay the release of Watch Dogs on Wii U to focus the team's resources where they could have the broadest possible benefit for both our customers and Ubisoft".

We made the difficult decision to take resources away from the WiiU version and put that into the other platforms which will reach the most number of players, and also sell the most copies for Ubisoft.

Thats how that sounds to me.

 

[Exile20]

Whelp, preorder cancelled. Eventual steam sale it is (provided it even turns out to be halfway decent). If they do still release it, I'm sure it'll be at full price with low framerate and no DLC months late.



The other day, I predicted MASSIVE schadenfreude if/when this gets cancelled. Looks like I was right, and it didn't even ACTUALLY have to cancel for the celebrations to start.

I wasn't around in the period during which everyone realized the Vita is a failure. Were there so many gleeful people circle jerking over that?

Nope.

For some reason people here wants the Wii U to fail.

They get excited for every thread that even hints at the Wii U's failure and even thread that find something good to say about it, they still find failure in it.

No clue you would want it die or as the poster above said "Some of us like seeing the nails being driven into the coffin."

 

[NHale]

So Ubisoft is really setting up the "We did our best shot at making games for the Wii U. We believe in the success of the platform and consider Nintendo as a great business partner. We launched various incredible AAA titles for the Wii U, like Zombie U, Rayman Legends, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag and Watch Dogs. Unfortunately those games have underperformed and we had to make the difficult decision of canceling any further development of AAA games for the Wii U for the time being." excuse, aren't they?

 

[prag16]

One of them isn't doing great. The other is a massive failure.

Do a search for December 2013 NPD...

 

[Saint Gregory]

What's happening Thursday?

NPD day.

Whelp, preorder cancelled. Eventual steam sale it is (provided it even turns out to be halfway decent). If they do still release it, I'm sure it'll be at full price with low framerate and no DLC months late.

Hilariously/ironically this is now the 2nd consecutive Ubi game that I probably would have bought at launch but will now wait for it to be $5 on Steam. Rayman was obviously the 1st.

The pad is the only feature that would make me buy a multiplatform title on consoles (unless the PS4 version is incredible or something) simply because I have the patience to wait for Steam sales.

Edit: I just realized this isn't true since I am one of the 50 people that bought Blacklist for Wii U. But that also kind of proves my point.

 

[gogogow]

Do a search for December 2013 NPD...

and Media-Create threads from late 2013. Unlike the Vita, the Wii U actually has some big games coming up.

 

[Replicant]

Is it even worth developing it for Wii U after it's been released for everything else? I'm not sure it'd worth the money to port the game when most people would bought it for another console or PC. Too much risk for miniscule possible buyers.

 

[Oppo]

No, they are just eagerly awaiting its cancellation, so that they have another reason to post 35 "what does Nintendo need to change" threads a day.

No one actually wants Nintendo to die. Or so few that it barely registers. That's not why there are so many threads.

 

[BPoole]

Why even bother? Is there anyone out there who owns a Wii U but not a PS3, 360, PC, PS4, or XB1? The Wii U version was already going to be the lowest seller by a large margin, and this just makes it dumb to release it at all.

 

[Exile20]

Do a search for December 2013 NPD...

Look at his post history, then decide if you really want have a discussion with him.

Why even bother? Is there anyone out there who owns a Wii U but not a PS3, 360, PC, PS4, or XB1? The Wii U version was already going to be the lowest seller by a large margin, and this just makes it dumb to release it at all.

If they implement great gamepad features, yes I want it on Wii U.

 

[Glass Joe]

The fact that they are taking developers off the WiiU version to work on other versions speaks volumes. They know that the other versions will make them guaranteed income.

Now I personally believe that they have development issues with the WiiU version. I think they've done the sums and realised that it's simply not worth paying the extra dev time on the WiiU version because they know they won't get a good return on the investment. If that is true then the WiiU version of Watch Dogs is dead.

They've had development issues with the game in general. That's why it had been severely delayed in the first place. Apparently they're still having problems, and needed to grab the extra hands from the Wii U version to even finish programming the overall game.

Of course the Wii U version isn't going to be a big moneymaker. But the fact that they announced a delay instead of an outright cancellation (which many expected) also speaks volumes. Today was a perfect time to announce it as such, if that were the case. Why do you believe that the Wii U version specifically had development issues, other than you being jaded & profoundly negative towards the Wii U?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

One of them isn't doing great. The other is a massive failure.

Isn't Doing great is a understatement

 

[Yagharek]

I think that they just didn't decided yet for that. They are under pressure to release the game as fast as possible and make it good. After they finish with this they will take a decision for the Wii U version. It will depend also on the reception of the game, because that's why Alien game was canceled. If it's a success there is nothing stopping them from releasing some definitive edition (because of the Gamepad) or just cancel it if it costs too much.

But to pretend that it is some kind of conspiracy or Ubisoft is afraid of announcing the cancellation it's all kind of crazy.

I'm not suggesting any conspiracy (except from EA) and the delay fits in with typical Ubisoft economic schedules. They routinely delay games into future financial quarters, and it obviously makes some apparent sense to focus on other versions before Wii U. They have at least been one of the better supporters of the platform so they get the benefit of the doubt from me.

 

[KingSnake]

Why even bother? Is there anyone out there who owns a Wii U but not a PS3, 360, PC, PS4, or XB1? The Wii U version was already going to be the lowest seller by a large margin, and this just makes it dumb to release it at all.

There's only one shot and that's using the Gamepad as the hacking tool. It could be the perfect implementation. Bring the ZombiU and Splinter Cell implementations into one and you can have the ideal way for playing this kind of game. At list according to the original trailer, as I'm afraid today it's much more a shooter into an Assassin's Creed skin than what was promised at the reveal.

 

[ozfunghi]

The Vita isn't dead just yet.

But WiiU is?

 

[gogogow]

Why even bother? Is there anyone out there who owns a Wii U but not a PS3, 360, PC, PS4, or XB1? The Wii U version was already going to be the lowest seller by a large margin, and this just makes it dumb to release it at all.

Actually I think Watch_Dogs can sell better on the Wii U than other games before it, because WD is a new IP and there isn't a existing fanbase on the other consoles, like with COD and/or AC.
I think it's sad that of all games they decide to cancel the one that has the most potential to perform at least decent on the Wii U install base compared to the other Ubisoft/Activision Wii U games.

 

[Log4Girlz]

But WiiU is?

I think he was talking about what the literal translation of its name was.

 

[test_account]

Holy shit I forgot about this. The double standards in palpable.

I'm not sure i would call it double standard. They're not obligated to anyone to follow a certain release pattern or anything like that. They do these choices based on what they think is the best choice business wise.

 

[schuelma]

One of them isn't doing great. The other is a massive failure.

In what world do you live in where Vita's world wide sales only constitutes a "isn't doing great"?