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When did Spiderman get so strong?

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Street level..😕
 
There's a comic from the 80s maybe 90s I think where Spider-Man is supporting a whole building. So nothing new really.

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this one is from the clone saga i guess..
is it original peter or ben reilly peter?
should be able to tell from the costume, but ehh so much time has passed
 
this one is from the clone saga i guess..
is it original peter or ben reilly peter?
should be able to tell from the costume, but ehh so much time has passed

That's Peter, Ben Reilly has web cartridges on his wrists and the suit looks different (blackish) than the classic.
 
Spider-Man is a street level character but not his powers.

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Most of these scenes where it shows his unbelievable power is due to Spider-Man being in a tough spot and getting a sort of adrenalin rush overcoming the hurdle.
There aren't that many situations (at least up to the 90's comics) where he can show his raw strength though.

Oh wow. I remember this exact scene from Spectacular Spider-man(dialog was different probably). It was great, probably shouldn't be surprised.
 
He can still joke around and still fuck people up. When Octavius bitched out at the end of Superior he was throwing jokes around while crushing Osborn's hands/wrists.
True, but when even the quips stop...then you're really fucked

Although this moment is fantastic. Four panels, and it just flows wonderfully. Perfect use of a quip there
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i forget, did the symbiotic enhance his strength or just remove some limiters?

i remember him picking up a wall sized steel plate door or something with ease and was about to squash rhino during the cartoon.
 
I didn't mind them. I think Raimi's reasoning was sound: Are we saying a college freshman can produce something that 3M couldn't even make?
Lol I don't know how we decide what comic book "reasoning" is sound and what isn't. The whole concept of changing DNA of an individual and having them change physiologically is beyond ridiculous. So once you accept that, it's perfectly fine to say the spider DNA gave him instincts for certain enzymes and how to mix them to create the webbing.

Not to mention teenage geniuses are kind of a staple of fantasy works. :p
 
I didn't mind them. I think Raimi's reasoning was sound: Are we saying a college freshman can produce something that 3M couldn't even make?

Are we saying a person would really get powers from being bitten by a spider?

Lol I don't know how we decide what comic book "reasoning" is sound and what isn't. The whole concept of changing DNA of an individual and having them change physiologically is beyond ridiculous. So once you accept that, it's perfectly fine to say the spider DNA gave him instincts for certain enzymes and how to mix them to create the webbing.

Not to mention teenage geniuses are kind of a staple of fantasy works. :p
Yeah BPS said it better.
 
i forget, did the symbiotic enhance his strength or just remove some limiters?

i remember him picking up a wall sized steel plate door or something with ease and was about to squash rhino during the cartoon.

I'm pretty sure it enhanced his strength because Eddie Brock was a normal guy and it gave him Spider-Man level strength.
 
I didn't mind them. I think Raimi's reasoning was sound: Are we saying a college freshman can produce something that 3M couldn't even make?
TONY STARK MADE IT IN A CAVE

WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS

True, but when even the quips stop...then you're really fucked

Although this moment is fantastic. Four panels, and it just flows wonderfully. Perfect use of a quip there
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Camuncoli's glorious art lends itself well to both expressiveness in the humour and Spider-man's own ridiculous physical lending credence to him being a bruiser.
 
So he's on the same level as Silver Surfer and She-Hulk?

That's all KINDS of messed up. 70s era iron man shouldn't be anywhere near that high. Neither should vision really.

Surfer even back then should be top of the pile. She hulk has embarrassed Ben Grimm more than once. Colossus even in the 80s could mix it up with juggernaut. He'd lose, but they had good fights.

This makes my brain hurt
 
The longer a superhero is around, the more bullshit they end up pulling. Once he's lifted a train, cars aren't impressive anymore. Escalation is the norm.

Same way Batman is essentially omniscient and Superman started dragging planets around on a chain. Too much one-upmanship.
Except in Batman vs. Superman (SPOILER):
Somehow in 2 years or whatever, he hadn't figured out who Superman's adopted mother was.
 
If Spidey goes dead silent then he's on the edge of permanently damaging or killing someone.
See, that's what makes a character trait good. The quips aren't just there for the sake of humor alone. They inform you about the character, and even the absence of them tells you something about the character's mindset at the moment
 
God damn you all. Between this thread and going to see Civil War tomorrow I'm now extremely tempted to start reading comics again.
 
So he's on the same level as Silver Surfer and She-Hulk?

No idea, really. The only time I have seen Silver Surfer doing hand to hand combat (instead of using cosmic powers) was against The Vision during the Avengers / Defenders war for the Evil Eye, so... as usual, depends on the writer.

Also, remember when Spider-man was able to beat the crap out of a Galactus Herald because nobody else was available at the moment? He tries to contact the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, even the X-Men... And then goes on by himself.
 
No idea, really. The only time I have seen Silver Surfer doing hand to hand combat (instead of using cosmic powers) was against The Vision during the Avengers / Defenders war for the Evil Eye, so... as usual, depends on the writer.

Surfers physical abilities are enhanced by the power cosmic. He's essentially "incalculable".

He doesn't beat down people with raw strength often but he can. He had a nasty fight with hulk in planet hulk, and was throwing down with a mind controlled Thing in his current series.
 
Are you asking for consistency in a fictitious character? Pretty sure there's no guideline for that, most comic book characters are heavily inconsistent depending on the writer.
 
You can clearly see Thor is struggling with Hulk, hence why they engage the hulk with the fighter jet.

I just rewatched Avengers yesterday. He's struggling to prevent Hulk from doing any collateral damage, and is trying to block Hulk from the rest of the crew and equipment. He's not trying to "beat" him at all. When Thor actually blocks Hulk's blows it isn't shown to be very taxing (in the memorable one where Hulk tries to crush him with his fist Thor blocks it with his forearm like he's blocking a flyswatter). The fighter jet is to help Thor distract Hulk and get him away from everyone else.

We've seen Thor go for killing blows in the MCU, and it only takes him one hit when he connects. He's not trying to fight Hulk in the Avengers - he's just trying to subdue or distract him.
 
These basically. He was a teenager when he got bit and continued getting stronger as he aged. Plus he is always holding back his strength to avoid collateral damage or hurting enemies too much, so you rarely ever see how powerful Peter ACTUALLY is.

FWIW he is probably #3 in the MCU behind only Hulk and Thor.


If they let beasts do things he'd be stronger
 
Is "Superior Spider-Man" worth reading? it sounds kinda cool
Checked it out last year on Unlimited and it actually pretty good

The reason why I found it worked so well was not only did have an interesting different take on Spidey. It also was good story about Peter, about his personality, his relationships with friends and allies and enemies, through contrast
 
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