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When did Spiderman get so strong?

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Doesn't Venom cold cock Captain America with one punch? If he can do it, I imagine Spider-Man could too.
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In a properly written Spider-man vs Cap fight Spidey should win pretty much 99% of the the time. *Twhip* to grab the and *twhip* to web Cap up and it's game over without having to throw a single punch.

The only reason that doesn't actually happen in the comics is because it'd be too one sided and boring so they buff Cap up and or dumb Spidey down like what happened in the Civil war fight.

Ya, I know. I just meant that his main weaknesses are his durability and compassion, which when combined with self-doubt or any wide variety of distraction allow him to have an arguably convincing fight with just about anyone with a power. It makes him a versatile and an exciting character to write for.
 
Oh shit son

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Savage

Spiderman knocked all the vital fluids out of him
This is what's been missing from the Spider-Man films too. I know they don't want to get too viscerally violent but it's been sorely lacking in having Spider-Man and his rogues trading straight up punches and beating each other.
 
This is what's been missing from the Spider-Man films too. I know they don't want to get too viscerally violent but it's been sorely lacking in having Spider-Man and his rogues trading straight up punches and beating each other.

IF Spiderman has to make a new mask, somebody is going to get hurt
 
Last time I saw him he was helping drug addicts get clean using the symbiote.

IF Spiderman has to make a new mask, somebody is going to get hurt

In Spider-Man films I don't think he's generally actually hurt anyone. The most brutal fight was the end of SM1 but that was Peter getting destroyed before Norman killed himself.
 
jeeze, that Stan Carter story was heavy. Never read the issues, but the synopsis was really unfortunate.

I like stories like that though, and it's probably why I've always liked Spidey.
 
I feel bad for the symbiote, it really just loved parker. In fact it is pretty much considered a sexual deviant by it's race because it doesn't control it's host.
 
I feel bad for the symbiote, it really just loved parker. In fact it is pretty much considered a sexual deviant by it's race because it doesn't control it's host.

It was lobotomized or something when given to Flash to keep it in control too iirc.
 
Spidey is pretty OP. Not only one of the smartest, most agile, but straight up stronger than just about any street level hero. Captain America, Daredevil, Moon Knight, all them dudes get squashed.

The only power level feat I call bullshit is Spider-Man beating up Firelord

like get all the way the fuck out of here with that, DeFalco
 
Spidey is pretty OP. Not only one of the smartest, most agile, but straight up stronger than just about any street level hero. Captain America, Daredevil, Moon Knight, all them dudes get squashed.

The only power level feat I call bullshit is Spider-Man beating up Firelord

like get all the way the fuck out of here with that, DeFalco
Has he beaten Black Cat in a fight before? I think the bad luck powers complicates things; I also don't know if Octavius's sucker punch counts.
 
Has he beaten Black Cat in a fight before? I think the bad luck powers complicates things; I also don't know if Octavius's sucker punch counts.

Pretty sure it counts. It was also hilarious cuz it was out of the blue and it happened so fast.

sarcasm, it doesn't count.
 
800lbs, the handbooks mentioned he was a freak for reaching enhanced human level just by working out
Didn't he have cancer that affected his adrenal glands? Like he was constantly receiving massive doses of adrenaline? Which is exactly why the symbiote loved him so much? Explains why he'd be so strong.
 
Has he beaten Black Cat in a fight before? I think the bad luck powers complicates things; I also don't know if Octavius's sucker punch counts.

A bit off-topic, but the symbiote is resistant to the bad luck power. Black Cat got a nice beating from Venom the first time she encountered him and the bad luck did nothing, receiving a direct punch to the face.


One problem is that non-comics Spider-Man is too kid friendly, as it probably is Marvel's biggest merchandise seller. I think that 90's crappy animation did not even let him pull direct punches and in every other media appearance he has never gotten into "Pissed off Spidey" mode (Which was ridiculous in the Sam Raimi movies). I guess it's the same thing as with Tony Stark drinking a lot but never becoming an alcoholic. Or Hank Pym never beating the Wasp in the MCU.
 
A bit off-topic, but the symbiote is resistant to the bad luck power. Black Cat got a nice beating from Venom the first time she encountered him and the bad luck did nothing, receiving a direct punch to the face.


One problem is that non-comics Spider-Man is too kid friendly, as it probably is Marvel's biggest merchandise seller. I think that 90's crappy animation did not even let him pull direct punches and in every appearance he has never gotten into "Pissed off Spidey" mode. I guess it's the same thing as with Tony Stark drinking a lot but never becoming an alcoholic. Or Hank Pym never beating the Wasp in the MCU.

Also, no one ever used real guns in that show.
 
All superheroes are just as powerful as the story line needs them to be at the moment the story is told.

In the origins of Batman and Spider-Man, they were pretty fragile and today they probably deflect laser beams and lift buildings.

Spidey was never really presented as fragile. His main failings were inexperience and a selfish need to prove himself. (In those early days, he beat up the Xmen and the Fantastic 4.)

Also they used to routinely point out that his spider strength resulted in super dense muscles that when Spidey didn't opt to roll with a punch was like punching steel for normal folks.

http://fanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Science_of_Spider-Man

That write-up is pretty consistent with early Spidey.
 
Been reading "Superior Spider-Man" now and this is gold.

I can't say I don't agree with a lot of stuff that Doc Ock is doing regarding Parker's life and his Spider-Man "job".
Parker basically has always cruising from situation to situation.
 
Would Spiderman win against Black Panther?

The only way Black Panther would be able to win is if you gave him and only him prep time since he would be able to bring a lot of gadgets to the battle to level the playing field.

Spider-man is simply faster and stronger then Black Panter so in a straight fight he'd win 9/10 times
 
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