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If liberalism is to thrive again, left liberals that are open to discussion need to dissassociate from the fascist left aka the authoritarian left that thought police people, like many of the old mods on this site did. The fascist left is pushing people away from liberalism and is likely the biggest reason for the backlash against PCisms that led to Trumps win.
Respecting someone's right to privacy, Freedom of expression, emphatiizing with why someone thinks the way they do and being open to other people's perspectives and viewpoints are fundamentally liberal principles.
Many of the Militant left wing people who ran old gaf and run the new site are liberals in name only. I don’t know when this switch happened but these authoritarian liberals don't have the openness to other viewpoints that liberal philosophy mandates. They openly hate on all police officers, many hate on all members of the military and accuse all white people of white privilege and anyone that disagrees with them is a racist. They militantly ban colleges from having guest speakers that disagree with their worldview and refuse to confront of acknowledge their own biases. This is how conservatives are, liberals should be open minded.
As almost everyone here has pointed out OP., your views on transpeople is close minded and inconsiderate. But it's not because you are a hateful bigot, it's because of social conditioning that you feel this way. It comes from a place of misinformation, not hate. Liberals understand this because they have empathy with others and like to engage with them and educate them in an open discourse.
I know the below graph is well known...
But it’s very true. Traditional liberals fall into what the chart labels Libertarian Left. The people that call themselves Libertarians fall into the Libertarian Right quadrant. The GOP fall into the Authoritarian Right and unfortunately, the Authoritarian Left (the people engaging in thought policing, doxxing and attacking freedom of speech on campuses) have switched to hijacking the Liberal moniker though they do not share their principles or values.
Liberals need to kick them out and reclaim the label before their name gets even more dragged through the mud by the authoritarian Left that do not value freedom of expression, the right to privacy or freedom of thought. Empathy towards even those we disagree with is the only path towards changing minds and making progress.
The old gaf and the new site were not run by liberals, they would have instantly personally attacked you and banned you without engaging with you to try to explain why your views on transgender people are incorrect, because the old gaf and the new site was not run by liberals that have an open mind and empathy but was instead run by close minded militants that resort to thought policing. And it got this way over time...
The issue was the rampant bans. People who expressed nonleft views points or defended conservatives were first attacked by many liberal posters and then when they tried to explain their perspective were outright banned. This pushed the forum even more left. Then people that expressed views that didn't confirm to this lefter ideology were again dogpiled on then banned. With each banning the forum became more and more of a far left bubble where anyone outside the bubble was either banned or afraid to post their perspective.
And anyone that pointed out there is a bubble now we're again dogpiled on then banned.
The same thing will happen to the new site and with each round of bans there, more and more people will return to this site.
Right wing bubbles are a far bigger issue and they do more harm and become more hateful and racist over time, but gafs previous status as a far left wing bubble where differing views even if they were not hateful were completely unwelcome and piled on then got people banned was thought policing and fascist.
By definition, the people that facilitate left wing bubbles are not liberals and do not share liberal values.
That woman that accidently tweeted a private joke to a friend about AIDs in Africa was targeted for doxxing by a left wing bubble that got her fired from her job and got multiple death threats and harassing calls requiring her to go into police protection.
No one with empathy (ie a liberal) would be okay with treating someone this way over a private joke that meant no one any harm.
That guy that posted the youtube video of his drivethru at chick fil was targeted (probably by right wing bubbles) for doxxing, death threats and lost his job, his home and is now homeless
A random H and M store was targeting for rioting and looting because of the racist ad their company put out and then immediately took down when they realized it was racist.
A real liberal would be considerate of the fact that people have different perspectives, views and biases and would try to engage with them and educate them rather than attacking them and asking for them to be banned.
Liberals do not believe in thought policing, or name calling. They believe in trying to understand other people's perspectives, open conversation and discourse.
When the rest of the world saw homosexuality as a mental illness and transgender people as perverts, it was conservatives that resorted to name calling and thought policing and liberals that tried to empathize with people with a different perspective and lifestyle and stood alongside and advocated for them.
Yes, Militant liberals share liberal policies but they absolutely do not share liberal ideals. They are loud and abuse any power they get to banning people and stop conversation and thus they can quickly turn a forum like this one into a bubble. And in doing so, they do far more damage to the liberal causes than conservatives could ever hope to because they actively push people away from liberal ideology.
Militant leftists are not liberals, just the opposite, Militant liberals that deny the right to privacy and that belive in labeling and banning people share their political philosophy with the ideals of fascism, the same as Militant conservatives.
TLDR: Militant liberals do not represent liberals or liberal values at all. Not all biases are racist. Racism comes from a place of hate and resentment. Bias is a product of societal conditioning, and it can be reversed with engagement and education. Conflating bias with hatred and opting to thought police and ban people for having a different viewpoint (even when it is not hateful) doesn't do anyone any good. And it's also extremely dishonest because there is not a single person on the planet that can honestly claim to be free of biases.
Respecting someone's right to privacy, Freedom of expression, emphatiizing with why someone thinks the way they do and being open to other people's perspectives and viewpoints are fundamentally liberal principles.
Many of the Militant left wing people who ran old gaf and run the new site are liberals in name only. I don’t know when this switch happened but these authoritarian liberals don't have the openness to other viewpoints that liberal philosophy mandates. They openly hate on all police officers, many hate on all members of the military and accuse all white people of white privilege and anyone that disagrees with them is a racist. They militantly ban colleges from having guest speakers that disagree with their worldview and refuse to confront of acknowledge their own biases. This is how conservatives are, liberals should be open minded.
As almost everyone here has pointed out OP., your views on transpeople is close minded and inconsiderate. But it's not because you are a hateful bigot, it's because of social conditioning that you feel this way. It comes from a place of misinformation, not hate. Liberals understand this because they have empathy with others and like to engage with them and educate them in an open discourse.
I know the below graph is well known...
But it’s very true. Traditional liberals fall into what the chart labels Libertarian Left. The people that call themselves Libertarians fall into the Libertarian Right quadrant. The GOP fall into the Authoritarian Right and unfortunately, the Authoritarian Left (the people engaging in thought policing, doxxing and attacking freedom of speech on campuses) have switched to hijacking the Liberal moniker though they do not share their principles or values.
Liberals need to kick them out and reclaim the label before their name gets even more dragged through the mud by the authoritarian Left that do not value freedom of expression, the right to privacy or freedom of thought. Empathy towards even those we disagree with is the only path towards changing minds and making progress.
The old gaf and the new site were not run by liberals, they would have instantly personally attacked you and banned you without engaging with you to try to explain why your views on transgender people are incorrect, because the old gaf and the new site was not run by liberals that have an open mind and empathy but was instead run by close minded militants that resort to thought policing. And it got this way over time...
The issue was the rampant bans. People who expressed nonleft views points or defended conservatives were first attacked by many liberal posters and then when they tried to explain their perspective were outright banned. This pushed the forum even more left. Then people that expressed views that didn't confirm to this lefter ideology were again dogpiled on then banned. With each banning the forum became more and more of a far left bubble where anyone outside the bubble was either banned or afraid to post their perspective.
And anyone that pointed out there is a bubble now we're again dogpiled on then banned.
The same thing will happen to the new site and with each round of bans there, more and more people will return to this site.
Right wing bubbles are a far bigger issue and they do more harm and become more hateful and racist over time, but gafs previous status as a far left wing bubble where differing views even if they were not hateful were completely unwelcome and piled on then got people banned was thought policing and fascist.
By definition, the people that facilitate left wing bubbles are not liberals and do not share liberal values.
That woman that accidently tweeted a private joke to a friend about AIDs in Africa was targeted for doxxing by a left wing bubble that got her fired from her job and got multiple death threats and harassing calls requiring her to go into police protection.
No one with empathy (ie a liberal) would be okay with treating someone this way over a private joke that meant no one any harm.
That guy that posted the youtube video of his drivethru at chick fil was targeted (probably by right wing bubbles) for doxxing, death threats and lost his job, his home and is now homeless
A random H and M store was targeting for rioting and looting because of the racist ad their company put out and then immediately took down when they realized it was racist.
A real liberal would be considerate of the fact that people have different perspectives, views and biases and would try to engage with them and educate them rather than attacking them and asking for them to be banned.
Liberals do not believe in thought policing, or name calling. They believe in trying to understand other people's perspectives, open conversation and discourse.
When the rest of the world saw homosexuality as a mental illness and transgender people as perverts, it was conservatives that resorted to name calling and thought policing and liberals that tried to empathize with people with a different perspective and lifestyle and stood alongside and advocated for them.
Yes, Militant liberals share liberal policies but they absolutely do not share liberal ideals. They are loud and abuse any power they get to banning people and stop conversation and thus they can quickly turn a forum like this one into a bubble. And in doing so, they do far more damage to the liberal causes than conservatives could ever hope to because they actively push people away from liberal ideology.
Militant leftists are not liberals, just the opposite, Militant liberals that deny the right to privacy and that belive in labeling and banning people share their political philosophy with the ideals of fascism, the same as Militant conservatives.
TLDR: Militant liberals do not represent liberals or liberal values at all. Not all biases are racist. Racism comes from a place of hate and resentment. Bias is a product of societal conditioning, and it can be reversed with engagement and education. Conflating bias with hatred and opting to thought police and ban people for having a different viewpoint (even when it is not hateful) doesn't do anyone any good. And it's also extremely dishonest because there is not a single person on the planet that can honestly claim to be free of biases.
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