dsmoke1986
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Buying digital is my preferred medium...However, the consoles are light years behind Steam, I might buy 1 or 2 games on the eShop, like I have on Xbox Live On Demand, but not like the 60+ games that I have on Steam.
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Wii U eShop Launch List: 23 digital titles/pricing (retail & indie)
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Buying digital is my preferred medium...However, the consoles are light years behind Steam, I might buy 1 or 2 games on the eShop, like I have on Xbox Live On Demand, but not like the 60+ games that I have on Steam.
pharmboy044
Member
You might be right. The Vita does the same thing. We'll probably know better when the PS4 comes out.
SuperSonic1305
Member
So...where does it say how large the games are?
Internal for now. I don't foresee myself getting very many games in the near future. NSMB U and ZombieU for now. Monster Hunter in March.
Dreamwriter
Member
Why not? Nintendo seems to handle their DD very well - every digital app that people bought on their DSi's were able to transfer to 3DS, same with Wii to Wii U. And when a Wii broke Nintendo was able to transfer all your purchases to a new Wii as well.
As for good deals, with the Wii U Nintendo is letting third-party developers have sales and stuff.
Wrestlemania
Banned
Is there a good round up of imressions anywhere of the day one indie games? Not read or seen much about Trine 2, Chasing Aurora or Nano Assault Neo.
Nano Assault is pretty fucking rad, pretty hectic shooter and the Galaxy style planet mechanics can make the game wild. If Trine 2 is anywhere near as good as Trine 1 then its also worth buying. No idea about Aurora, been looking to hear some impressions myself.
demosthenes
Member
I'm curious, what makes you think buying with Nintendo digital is a good idea? To be doing it so earlier with regards to their network?
I'm really impressed at how good it looks. The folks at shin'en are very talented.
Syphon Filter
Member
any pics or vids of the digital library interface?
I'd honestly like to see what would happen with a Retro/Shin'en joint sci-fi project. Either that or just have Shin'en make another horizontal/vertical shoot em up on the WiiU.
I want to go all digital for convenience and I rarely ever sell or trade-in games. I also tend to move my home consoles around for various reasons, so moving the games around too is an extra hassle. Plus, physical copies take up space and my shelves are already overflowing with stuff. I do have slight concerns with Nintendo and going digital, but the convenience outweighs that for me.
I plan to get digital if possible from now on, but just waiting for confirmation on if the saves are compatible or not before I switch to digital for Nintendo Land and Assassin's Creed III, which I own on disk now.
Agent Unknown
Member
Just got Nanostray Assault Neo tonight and I love it, great little twin stick shooter. It's kind of like Super Stardust but with more organic enemies and environments, definitely worth ten dollars so far. There's also these cool tube style bonus levels in between stages. I seriously need to look into more of Shinen's stuff.
Eaten By A Grue
Member
Their whole concept of DRM is archaic being tied to the console rather then an account. It makes thing difficult when problems arise. Especially with those fringe issues when the console has to be physically shipped to Nintendo to get your digital purchases restored or transferred.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Just a completely random aside: it really infuriates me that so many digital releases are priced at the same price point as boxed copies. It just pisses me the hell off. Give me anything off to make me feel better. $5. $10. Doesn't matter. Just don't make me feel like I'm being taken advantage of by being willing to buy the digital copy.
I feel the same way. They are saving packaging and shipping and retailer fees. Shit should be transferred to the customer as an incentive to buy digital. The 10% points deal is a good start I guess.
Dreamwriter
Member
The PS3 is the same way, you can transfer your PS3 account to another PS3 but you can only do it a limit number of times. It wouldn't make sense to allow multiple devices per account, you'd just get people installing their games on their friends' consoles (like happened in the PS3 early days when they let you have your account active on 5 PS3's at the same time).
As for physically shipping your console, if it is broken then you'd need to do that to get the cheap replacement anyways.
nextgeneration
Member
How is the intensity of the game? I've seen videos of it, and I don't see a lot going on. It's sort of slow paced, and I don't see tons of enemies/firepower on the screen, like Super Stardust. Because of that, this game doesn't look hard at all.
CosmicQueso
Member
But then retailers are unhappy and don't carry the game or otherwise make things difficult. This is more complicated than you might think.
Dreamwriter
Member
I disagree with this. First off, while they don't have to pay for packaging, they have to pay for bandwidth - a few hundred thousand people downloading 6+GB games, that's gonna cost a decent chunk. And they still have some of the other costs of retail, like paying for their game to be featured on the store.
But really, in the end it comes down to the fact that developers really need incentives to offer their games digitally. The Wii U so far has the best digital store on console, because you can get like 90% of the Wii U's retail games digitally. And I believe a large part of that is because Nintendo is doing things like letting them choose prices and pocket all the extra money from being digital. As long as we aren't paying *more* than the retail store, I'm glad that I never have to go to the retail store again and worry if the game I want is in stock or which store to go to to get it, and that I don't have these useless game boxes cluttering up the place or discs that can get lost.
Do you pay taxes on the eShop?
Deluxe refund + possible -taxes is pretty decent I think.
It ramps up very quickly, from what I have played so far, the 2nd level was an eyeopener with regards to difficulty and intensity. The first chapter/world or w.e you want to call it was kicking my ass for a good amount of time.
Agent Unknown
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It's neither slow paced nor easy IMHO. You have to keep moving and shooting because enemies big and small are swarming you constantly and in every stage you eventually trigger an exit where you have a very limited amount of time to reach before the stage self destructs and you die. I wouldn't say it's super challenging but it's no walk in the park and it's definitely fast paced. There's also some nice weapon upgrades you can get in game or through a shop system.
Edit: As the poster above said, the difficulty really heats up starting with the second stage.
Anticitizen One
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Why not? Nintendos digital store is probably the best following steam and gog.
nextgeneration
Member
Ok, glad to see that the difficulty ramps up. How about the frame rate? Is the game able to maintain 60 fps at all times, even when things get very hectic?
whatevermort
Member
Has anybody got any comparisons of loading times for HD vs disc yet? Particularly interested in Mario.
Agent Unknown
Member
I'm not exactly a good frame rate judge but feels really smooth so far even with tons of stuff on screen.
Its definitely visual overload at times. Only played the first stage set, but being a shin'en game, it should get up there.
abstract alien
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It does not exist yet sir, sorry.
EatChildren
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Well, I think it's just the concern that you have no actual account security and that everything you do/purchase is (for the time being) permanently tethered to the box in your lounge room. It puts a physical ball-and-chain on your digital expenditure, which can be perceived as illogical given the nature of digital content. Less so about sharing accounts, moreso about knowing that at the moment there's literally nothing you can do. Account sharing isn't really an issue, as you could simply have accounts only active on one console at a time.
As it is, Nintendo doesn't even offer in-house profile/data transfer. I'm positive this will change, but it's still annoying. Under the current system if you Wii U were to break, or worse yet get stolen, there's zero way to recover your data and content. Account level content fixes that, both for yourself and Nintendo.
I don't really want to drag this thread into that discussion though, just noting that there's rationality behind disappointment and insecurity with how Wii U accounts are currently handled.
What I'm interested in is if anybody has done performance tests for HDD versus disk? Probably not, given the system has only been out a little over a day, but playing via HDD with the Wii provided a very obvious performance boost whenever it came to loading. The Prime series is a good example, as data had to load every time you used a door.
PSN accounts can be easily unlinked from a console and reactivated on another one. If said console is stolen/broken, there's a website that lets you do so as well. You can log into as many PS3s as you want to play games and the like, but you can only activate digital content tied to an account on two consoles and two handhelds.
So no, a PSN account is nowhere near as close as a NNID and "can only use an ID on the console it was created" and "have to send the console to Nintendo to transfer it over in case it breaks", the latter of which isn't even confirmed yet. It's perfectly reasonable to be wary about going DD on the Wii U at this point.
Likewise. I don't think I'm going to purchase any retail games as digital titles unless there's an incentive to.
Well the problem at the moment is less that you don't have an account, but more that you can't access that account from any other machine than the one you created it on. So it's a tethering issue, as opposed to one where you can't recover your purchases. Which is still a pain in the ass, but a different kind of problem.
I know that with the 3DS people have been able to recover all their purchases if their system is stolen, including ambassador status. But you have to jump through all sorts of hurdles like providing Nintendo with a police report reference number before they'll do it.
