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This better not mean Nintendo won't have their own online store where they sell all Wii U games. Because that's the way it should be.
H_Prestige said:This better not mean Nintendo won't have their own online store where they sell all Wii U games. Because that's the way it should be.
bgassassin said:Credit to Conker3000 on IGN boards for the find.
http://wiiugo.com/exclusive-ea-origin-to-be-a-key-element-of-nintendos-online-strategy/
Exclusive: EA Origin to be a key element of Nintendos online strategy?
If true then someone needs to tell Nintendo to not let EA abuse that partnership.
I think we came to this conclusion after E3 2011. Wii U is going to be the wild west of online systems and gameplay. You'll have Ubiplay accounts, Origin accounts, Nintendo WiFi friendcodes and more. I don't think there's going to be a standard it's going to be a clusterfuck since Nintendo isn't developing their own version of 'Xbox Live'. Pretty much why whenever online is brought up the third parties say: "Ask Nintendo" and Nintendo says: "Ask the third parties".bgassassin said:Credit to Conker3000 on IGN boards for the find.
http://wiiugo.com/exclusive-ea-origin-to-be-a-key-element-of-nintendos-online-strategy/
Exclusive: EA Origin to be a key element of Nintendos online strategy?
If true then someone needs to tell Nintendo to not let EA abuse that partnership.
[Nintex] said:I think we came to this conclusion after E3 2011. Wii U is going to be the wild west of online systems and gameplay. You'll have Ubiplay accounts, Origin accounts, Nintendo WiFi friendcodes and more. I don't think there's going to be a standard it's going to be a clusterfuck since Nintendo isn't developing their own version of 'Xbox Live'.
Suzzopher said:What's stopping having both Steam and Origin on the platform?
[Nintex] said:I think we came to this conclusion after E3 2011. Wii U is going to be the wild west of online systems and gameplay. You'll have Ubiplay accounts, Origin accounts, Nintendo WiFi friendcodes and more. I don't think there's going to be a standard it's going to be a clusterfuck since Nintendo isn't developing their own version of 'Xbox Live'.
Suzzopher said:What's stopping having both Steam and Origin on the platform?
You'll have Origin, Steam, SegaNet, Nintendo Online, Ubi Play, Activision Online and whatever barebones friendcode-based netcode or eShop Nintendo poops out.Suzzopher said:What's stopping having both Steam and Origin on the platform?
I mean the eShop should be their version of Xbox marketplace or PSN store, where the user buys and downloads everything from. It sounds like you might have to log into Origin for EA stuff, Steam for Valve stuff, etc. Nobody tolerates that kind of fragmentation.AceBandage said:GIVE IT TO STEAM, NINTENDO!
Of course, that'll never happen.
EA and Nintendo are too tight right now.
Not that Origin is a bad service, but I mean, Steam has the best deals.
No way Nintendo would want to go through EA to get their own games out there.
It would likely be a hybrid type store, though. There there's like an Origin and an eShop on the same channel.
H_Prestige said:I mean the eShop should be their version of Xbox marketplace or PSN store, where the user buys and downloads everything from. It sounds like you might have to log into Origin for EA stuff, Steam for Valve stuff, etc. Nobody tolerates that kind of fragmentation.
Case in point, Nintendo's own stuff is already fragmented across systems and on systems. The Wii shop is different from the 3DS one. If I want the Nintendo Videos I need to open some sort of other app to download and view them. Mark my words It's just going to be one giant clusterfuck of systems and services.H_Prestige said:I mean the eShop should be their version of Xbox marketplace or PSN store, where the user buys and downloads everything from. It sounds like you might have to log into Origin for EA stuff, Steam for Valve stuff, etc. Nobody tolerates that kind of fragmentation.
[Nintex] said:Case in point, Nintendo's own stuff is already fragmented across systems and on systems. The Wii shop is different from the 3DS one. If I want the Nintendo Videos I need to open some sort of other app to download and view them. Mark my words It's just going to be one giant clusterfuck of systems and services.
[Nintex] said:Case in point, Nintendo's own stuff is already fragmented across systems and on systems. The Wii shop is different from the 3DS one. If I want the Nintendo Videos I need to open some sort of other app to download and view them. Mark my words It's just going to be one giant clusterfuck of systems and services.
If you've never visited youtube I guess it is...AceBandage said:Err, you can also download videos from the eShop...
Nintendo Video is just a service for short little videos that download automatically.
It's actually quite convenient...
[Nintex] said:If you've never visited youtube I guess it is...
But just look at Mario Kart 7 which seems to be a decent online system. Is that going to be the standard from now on? Nope, it's just for Mario Kart 7.
bgassassin said:I must be on Nintex's ignore list or something.
Exactly. I think many are underestimating the cost.Bear said:It also has a gyroscope, IR, microphone, battery and Bluetooth. It's by far the most sophisticated standard controller in a market where the standard price is $50. A Wiimote and Nunchuck together cost $60 and have around half the inputs, no screen and no rechargeable battery.
bgassassin said:I must be on Nintex's ignore list or something.
bgassassin said:I disagree. That was the whole point of Nintendo getting help on it in the first place.
Freedom for third parties to use their online services doesn't imply a lack of a centralized one. See Portal 2 using Steamworks on PS3.[Nintex] said:I think we came to this conclusion after E3 2011. Wii U is going to be the wild west of online systems and gameplay. You'll have Ubiplay accounts, Origin accounts, Nintendo WiFi friendcodes and more. I don't think there's going to be a standard it's going to be a clusterfuck since Nintendo isn't developing their own version of 'Xbox Live'. Pretty much why whenever online is brought up the third parties say: "Ask Nintendo" and Nintendo says: "Ask the third parties".
[Nintex] said:Why do you think Riccitiello was there at E3? EA has been pimpin' Origin all over the place. Ubisoft kinda confirmed Nintendo's online approach too when they talked about Ghost Recon Online. All publishers will probably have their own type of online network/play/distribution because Nintendo knows they're not good at making online systems. EA also isn't going to help for example Activision, by allowing them to use the Origin interface for Call of Duty on the Wii U or something.
lunchwithyuzo said:I figured Nintendo would just do their own eShop for Wii U, but actually thinking about it allowing 3rd party stores (Origin, Steam, etc) could be a huge competitive advantage for them versus XBL and PSN, and a great way to get western publishers more fully onboard. Maybe it could also lead to opportunites in the other direction? Something like Virtual Console on Steam, Origin, etc, could be pretty exciting?
So, as far as you're concerned, there's no room for doubt?[Nintex] said:Why do you think Riccitiello was there at E3? EA has been pimpin' Origin all over the place. Ubisoft kinda confirmed Nintendo's online approach too when they talked about Ghost Recon Online. All publishers will probably have their own type of online network/play/distribution because Nintendo knows they're not good at making online systems. EA also isn't going to help for example Activision, by allowing them to use the Origin interface for Call of Duty on the Wii U or something.
BurntPork said:So, as far as you're concerned, there's no room for doubt?
AceBandage said:Of course not.
It's Nintendo so of course they'll fuck everything up. They never learn from their mistakes, after all.
This was sarcasm for those of you who don't get it.
Somebody give this man a badge or something.Luckyman said:People actually think this is starting a new generation? NO its just joining this generation.
Its not designed to compete with any upcoming consoles specs wise. Its all about the controller with very affordable specs. They like to charge heavy premium too if they can
blu said:Somebody give this man a badge or something.
Chopper said:Whilst sort of under NDA, I spoke to someone within a major games pulisher here in the UK recently who has spent plenty of time with the Wii U hardware, and they are less than impressed. As a Nintendo fan, I was disappointed to hear him say that the machine is under-powered compared to the impending competition
Who says they wouldn't? If it happened it'd be a dedicated store within the Steam platform, similar to a dedicated Steam store within the Wii U platform.AceBandage said:I can't see this happening any time soon.
Nintendo not having full control over their games is just... unthinkable.
What do you mean by this?Djamb3 said:Just imagining steam into WiiU... Buy once, play everywhere. And plenty of games at launch. Please do it nintendo. Console of the forever indeed
blu said:Somebody give this man a badge or something.
H_Prestige said:What do you mean by this?
H_Prestige said:What do you mean by this?
I really want to interpret all this as that they're basically allowing Origin on the Wii U (and its probably their first partner), but there is absolutely nothing against Steam on the Wii U as well.Reggie said:For Wii U, were going to take that one step further, and what were doing is creating a much more flexible system that will allow the best approaches by independent publishers to come to bear. So instead of a situation where a publisher has their own network and wants that to be the predominant platform, and having arguments with platform holders, were going to welcome that. Were going to welcome that from the best and the brightest of the third party publishers.Source
You guys try to drive me nuts, don't you?Boney said:I'm just gonna leave this here so we can all get a jolly good laugh
Originally Posted by BurntPork:
We're talking about sales, and GameCube was a commercial flop. If the DreamCast weren't killed off, even that would have beat the GameCube.
Djamb3 said:Buy a game in your pc, play it in any pc, or any mac or any wii u. What could we be asking more?
DCKing said:Here's what Reggie said before about the online:
I really want to interpret all this as that they're basically allowing Origin on the Wii U (and its probably their first partner), but there is absolutely nothing against Steam on the Wii U as well.
DCKing said:Here's what Reggie said before about the online:
I really want to interpret all this as that they're basically allowing Origin on the Wii U (and its probably their first partner), but there is absolutely nothing against Steam on the Wii U as well.
H_Prestige said:So what did the n64 and gamecube show? This has never been true. All that was shown this gen was that their is an upper limit to how much you can charge for a console and expect to sell it.
H_Prestige said:I mean the eShop should be their version of Xbox marketplace or PSN store, where the user buys and downloads everything from. It sounds like you might have to log into Origin for EA stuff, Steam for Valve stuff, etc. Nobody tolerates that kind of fragmentation.
what i do!!BurntPork said:You guys try to drive me nuts, don't you?
I imagine Origin, Steam and the Nintendo store will be different channels, all with a seamless "Nintendo login" or something.AzaK said:That too has its problems but less than confusing the hell out of users.
Erm, the $400 360 outsold the $300 one by a HUGE margin.Game Guru said:Yeah, and that upper limit is $300 at launch. Remember that the lowest priced Xbox 360 at launch was $300 as well. Even the PS1, PS2, and Xbox launched at $300. I would suspect the upper limit for a dedicated handheld would be $200, but I cannot know this for sure until we see Vita's performance.
Isn't PC that fragmented as well? Wouldn't having competing stores on the same system mean lower prices for games in the digital realm as well? Xbox Live is an awesome system, don't get me wrong, but even Sony has trouble copying Microsoft in that regard. Xbox Live is practically the Xbox line's selling point. Maybe Nintendo thinks a different direction is in order. Either way, this is EA. If they want Origin on all three consoles, they are either going to get it or drop online support of said console even on the Next Xbox.
Would you buy a Genesis to play Sonic the Hedgehog, or would you stick with your Sega Master System and play it there?Caramello said:People won't buy a system to play games they can play on the system they already own.
Those are.......two totally different games.Grampa Simpson said:Would you buy a Genesis to play Sonic the Hedgehog, or would you stick with your Sega Master System and play it there?
AceBandage said:Oh, he'll get something that starts with a "b" all right...
Well, who isn't familiar with brownies?Luckyman said:You would be familiar with that.