Troubleman1990
Banned
So should Apple enter the console market? Or sega? to replace Nintendo?
I mean we need a third player in this.
I mean we need a third player in this.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Wii U US November Sales Estimated at 149K by Pachter
- Thread starter Horse Armour
- Start date
- Status
That really puts things into perspective, but unfortunately to many here, if it doesn't sell 3 million in a day, it's a failure (hyperbole, but you get my point).
Third player will continue to be Nintendo, for many years to come. In fact, I'd wager that they'll still be in it when Sony and MS drop out in decades to come.
Like the hat?
Banned
Holy shit at that gif, hahaha
Aquamarine
Member
150K is getting close to Sega Saturn / Virtual Boy territory. For the Black Friday month, 150K is beyond terrible...of course, I highly doubt the Wii U will only sell-through such a ridiculously low number. 300K predictions are more reasonable.
Nobody thinks that...analyst and investor consensus is that Iwata will miss that by a wide margin.
I think the numbers will be higher. I bought one when the Black Friday sale was on and I'm having a lot of fun with it. We will get Mario Kart and Smash, Zelda and probably another Mario near the end of it's life. I'm cool with that. If we get an Animal Crossing, Metroid, Monster Hunter or some other great IP in the next 2 years I'll be happy.
Why would they team up with MS of all companies?
And never sold as poorly as the Wii U. A million units would be a sign of a console that actually had life in it and that Nintendo was successful in turning it around.
"Nintendo:
981K (Wii, November 2007)
2040K (Wii, November 2008)
1260K (Wii, November 2009)
1270K (Wii, November 2010"
Less than 1 million is a serious problem, less than half a million is guaranteed death.
UberTag
Member
The Vita is going to outlive the Wii U just based on its Japanese developer support and PS4 remote play capability. (Vita TV? Not so much. I'm not delusional.)
Best case scenario for Nintendo is to launch the Wii U successor soon, make it backwards-compatible to the Wii U library and enable it to upscale, technically comparable to the PS4 and XB1 and enable it to remote play/second screen to the 3DS (which will act as its GamePad substitute).
Vinsanity.
Member
So wii u is trending WAY below the Dreamcast?
Graphics Horse
Member
What happened to Amazon anyway? Maybe next year.
None of the handheld-only pundits have offered a realistic way for Nintendo to keep up with the ever-growing smartphone market either.
You know what's not helping? The fact that when I go to Amazon.com and look at Super Mario 3D World and see that the cheapest price is 75 dollars. 75 fucking dollars. Whose fault is that? Reggie's. For a week now Amazon hasn't been re-stocked on Nintendo's biggest Wii U game. 75 dollars. I hate to say it, but Nintendo deserves all the bad shit that comes Wii U's way with how awfully they've managed every thing about it.
Even if he is off by 150% those numbers will still be horrendous.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Because MS, being in the position they are in, would absolutely make it worth their while if the opportunity ever presented itself. Nintendo would be the kingmaker in the next-gen console war.
Star Falcon
Member
This is exactly why owners are frustrated when all they have to show us in terms of the consoles future is Cranky Kong.
Once PS4 and Xbox start kicking off next year which big titles like Destiny, Titanfall, Infamous, Uncharted and Halo its game over. Sadly.
Once PS4 and Xbox start kicking off next year which big titles like Destiny, Titanfall, Infamous, Uncharted and Halo its game over. Sadly.
lol, if they ever parnter with anyone it will be sony. Why go to a company that is relevant only in the states? Sony has global appeal and would be great for nintendo.
Yeah just create one healthy Nintendo ecosystem sprinkled with Japanese 3rd party games and continue to push indies to fill up eShop.
Of course revenues would fall, but this ensures a future for the Nintendo we know and love. The alternative is to "evolve"
I really don't get why you, or anyone else, can possibly assume that this is a good idea. It'd destroy consumer faith in Nintendo, and it would be a severely rushed product.
Valve and Google. Maybe they should partner with Google's services.
If this comes to fruition, maybe it will finally be the motivation for Nintendo to self reflect on their issues and stop sugar coating them. Get a real online system, take a risk on developing western style games (goldeneye didn't prevent them from making Mario and zelda), push out new hardware on par with Microsoft and Sony, etc.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
This is pretty much what I'm feeling. Don't die until all the good looking exclusive games come out, then the WiiU can rest afterward.
Gotta be alive enough for that next gen Metroid. Then I will be alright.
But yeah, selling less than Dreamcast is trouble. It's funny because that system could have lasted if it wasn't plagued with piracy issues and Sega had enough money to continue to back it.
EDIT: Everyone with a WiiU, X may be the WiiU's Panzer Dragoon Saga, so get a copy as soon as you can. The same goes for any others that release if the console continues to flop. Limited distribution might be an issue.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I told you the reason. $$$ - at the end of the day this is a business. Nintendo will go where the money is (if they go at all).
The perfect Dark
Banned
Okay we all believe Pachter now.
Embarrassing thread...
Embarrassing thread...
D
Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
I guess by now they must be coming to terms with the bomb factor and gearing up to differentiate their next outing.
It's a real shame. They make such great games. Think I'll just wait for the karts and donkey kong, then grab mario and pikmin as well. a console for 4 games.... it's gonna have to be quite cheap. Also smash I guess... 5-6 nintendo must haves and I'd bite.
I really wonder if they should stick to their handhelds as hardware and just crush all other contenders in that space, then release their console games for one of the other 2.
It's a real shame. They make such great games. Think I'll just wait for the karts and donkey kong, then grab mario and pikmin as well. a console for 4 games.... it's gonna have to be quite cheap. Also smash I guess... 5-6 nintendo must haves and I'd bite.
I really wonder if they should stick to their handhelds as hardware and just crush all other contenders in that space, then release their console games for one of the other 2.
Yeah I love my handhelds and always buy them but I'm not totally blind to the smartphone market staying in Nintendos mind when it comes to handhelds.
Aquamarine
Member
USA sales:
Dreamcast LTD, 12 month total: 1.88-1.89 million
Wii U LTD, 12 month total: 1.39-1.40 million
In Japan, the consoles are more equal.
Wow, the Wii U is getting absolutely crushed by the Dreamcast.150k would mean it was almost TRIPLED by the GC in a similar November post-launch period. That's sub-Dreamcast numbers.
The saddest part is when fanboys try to console themselves with the thought that the Wii U will just reach a GCN-level of success. The Wii U is selling at 1/3 the rate of the GameCube and is presently 1 million units behind. It's more comparable to the Saturn than it is the GCN.
If/when the actual November numbers come out, I think the telling factor will be its sales compared to the Dreamcast's at this point.
Thank goodness they've pulled Cranky Kong out of their hat. It will surely revive sales.
TheXfactor
Member
thats the dumbest statement ive ever heard on gaf
True...if and it is a big if that became an option...ms would go deep into the war chest for that prize.
kittenbreath
Member
Xbox is a non-entity in Japan. Nintendo would never partner up with Microsoft on an exclusive basis.
I think a partnership with Sony would be more likely than going multiplatform, though. It would certainly help with development costs, which is what's kept Nintendo away from matching graphics parity and relying on gimmicks/novelty factor to sustain the Wii and Wii U (as well as the DS and 3DS, for that matter).
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
The only reason I put 500K as a feeler number is that means, NINTY at least has a mind share of the market
Seriously, if you can't even muster half a million people into buying your console during the busiest shopping season, how the fuck are you going to build upon it
You have to build momentum some way, show their investors, look we got some and should start pushing more out there
Seriously, if you can't even muster half a million people into buying your console during the busiest shopping season, how the fuck are you going to build upon it
You have to build momentum some way, show their investors, look we got some and should start pushing more out there
LOL you're asking a company who is easily 10-15 years behind everybody else about anything related to develop a MMO? Hahahaha
Did he actually save the the poor horse? Can't remember.
Does Pachter have more info available than us on which to base these estimates or is he just equivalent to poster in the NPD prediction thread?
Either way, 150k seems a little low but certainly plausible considering it was going up against 2 major console launches that did ~2m between them.
I could see the WiiU selling decently at $199 and with mario kart and smash bros out, but with these sales the question is if they can hang on until they reach that point. If I were them I'd move Zelda and whatever other unnanounced stuff they've got cooking to the next console.
Either way, 150k seems a little low but certainly plausible considering it was going up against 2 major console launches that did ~2m between them.
I could see the WiiU selling decently at $199 and with mario kart and smash bros out, but with these sales the question is if they can hang on until they reach that point. If I were them I'd move Zelda and whatever other unnanounced stuff they've got cooking to the next console.
He ate it.
Nope. But he does upgrade to a flying dragon later.
I definitely think that the WiiU is Nintendo's Saturn.
Muppet of a Man
Member
At this point I'm starting to believe that Wii was actually just dumb luck. I think these guys are just out of it. They can't follow the market, at least in the console space.
Stick to what you are good at: portables.
Again, converge your console and portable lines going forward. It will be best for Nintendo at the end of the day.
Stick to what you are good at: portables.
Again, converge your console and portable lines going forward. It will be best for Nintendo at the end of the day.
kittenbreath
Member
I own a Wii U. I love my Wii U. I really, really do.
But it has to be said...... what consumers?
KennyLinder
Member
No, the River of Sorrow took the horse (or whatever it was called)
- Status