No, he's saying that Visceral Games is developing the game and is being helped by some Eurocom employees.leroy hacker said:So you're saying the original Dead Space was made by a "Triple-A Wii team at Eurocom."
"One of the explanations we have is that there's a lot of double ownership. So people having a Wii and a 360 and/or PS3. They're really playing different types of games on those two machines, and historically up to know we assume those people will have played the more mature content on the more high-tech machine. Dead Space: Extraction is going to be a very nice test of that hypothesis, because we're really building a game where the Wii version is very different to the Dead Space game on 360 and PS3, and we'll actually see whether we can reach more people with a) a great game and b) interesting content. If that's not going to work, then obviously the whole proposal from our point of view at least of more mature games on the Wii just does not work." - Dr. Jens Uwe Intat, European VP at Electronic Arts
I want to quote this, because it's true.Miau said:This kind of attitude annoys me. Buy this or no more carrots to you?
They are the ones who want my money, make a good product, and if I can afford it I'll buy it. Treat your costumers with respect and don't pressure them, because I don't care if you fail.
Please, come back when I can move the characters legs.
"One of the explanations we have is that there's a lot of double ownership," he said. "So people having a Wii and a 360 and/or PS3. They're really playing different types of games on those two machines, and historically up to know we assume those people will have played the more mature content on the more high-tech machine.
"Dead Space: Extraction is going to be a very nice test of that hypothesis, because we're really building a game where the Wii version is very different to the Dead Space game on 360 and PS3, and we'll actually see whether we can reach more people with a) a great game and b) interesting content."
NPD April 2008 said:The NPD also pointed out that multiple console ownership in the current console lifecycle is currently very low; just three percent said that they own two of the three systems (Xbox 360, PS3, Wii). Two percent said they own all three.
Oh man, bad timing, bad timing. If you had just bought this one game you could have had it all. This was the true test, the one that was going to once and for all open the floodgates to all sorts of new and interesting "mature" content on the Wii. It's a shame really. EA was this close to showing you wonders you never knew could exist. Now you'll never know what might have been.jump_button said:this game a test im not buying it Im sick of being told to buy wii games
Last time I checked, 32 bit consoles didn't have IR pointers to be honest.Tiktaalik said:They didn't make a 3rd person game because they didn't want to deal with the nightmare of making a 3rd person game set a tight dungeon environment with no way to control the camera.
Did you all not play video games in the 32 bit days or something?
This is exactly what I thought when I read these statements yesterday.phisheep said:Utterly bonkers. Completely off the wall. If you want to test that hypothesis nice and cheaply, how about, well, you read some research maybe. Or do some yourself.
There. That's saved you several million already. OK, so it is old research but you can probably find some that is more recent - it might take just a touch more than the three minutes it took me to find that one.
The upshot is that if you go for the Wii market based on a franchise that Wii-only owners aren't interested in because they don't have the consoles it is on, you can't rely on the franchise to boost the sales. So you have to advertise.
It also means that your assumption is wrong.
And MadWorld, despite its blatant flaws. NMH is still the bestjump_button said:this game a test im not buying it Im sick of being told to buy wii games
only good 3rd party game on wii are NMH and MH3
little king's story.jump_button said:this game a test im not buying it Im sick of being told to buy wii games
only good 3rd party game on wii are NMH and MH3
SilverLunar said:Hey EA, can you read this? I'll buy RE: DSC just to despite you.
It is actually a franchise that i care about, that is already established on the system.
So don't cry when DSC sells a million, okay?
Danthrax said:Dead Space Extraction isn't outsourced. It's being made by the same team that made the original Dead Space.
AniHawk said:So according to this, Resident Evil: Dead Aim should have been a pretty good effort since there was already a full-fledged Resident Evil survival horror game on the PS2- even though it was a port. Dead Aim, as I'm sure you know, wasn't really all that well-received.
blah. i weep for people like you.Sipowicz said:both games are shitty arcade game spinoffs as far as i can tell
Sipowicz said:it's being "co-developed" as far i know. they can use whatever flowery language they want but it's still been outsourced and it's still a hastily put together arcade game wannabe
nah man. i'm saying that resident evil is a lot more popular as a series, there was already some brand recognition on the wii and capcom are actually half-decent on the wii
both games are shitty arcade game spinoffs as far as i can tell. i'm more more likely to buy the resident evil one (when it's cheap though)
Umbrella Chronicles and House of the Dead: Overkill both had more than enough content to justify their price tags.Dyno said:If a lightgun shooter sold for $30 then I'd be all for it but these games have a big boy price tag and in that regard utterly fail to deliver value.
How about adding on-rails multiplayer?
:lol
GrotesqueBeauty said:Oh man, bad timing, bad timing. If you had just bought this one game you could have had it all. This was the true test, the one that was going to once and for all open the floodgates to all sorts of new and interesting "mature" content on the Wii. It's a shame really. EA was this close to showing you wonders you never knew could exist. Now you'll never know what might have been.
you mean dead space extraction, a game developed by visceral studiosSipowicz said:if ea announced an internally developed game from one of their decent teams that wasnt a dumbed down spinoff
you pulled this out of your ass. you are guessing at the budget. Dead Space Extraction looks good for a wii game, but you decide that it's cheaply made. why?Sipowicz said:this is their idea of "core support". a single cheaply made arcade game spinoff of one of their good games on the pc.
you could argue that they did the same thing with Dead Space in the first place. it's as close a copy of RE4 as we have. it's still good enough and different enough to justify itself though.outsourced and full priced naturally, but this time it has a bit of blood in it!
once again they're just copying their peers with as little effort as possible, this time doing what capcom did 2 years ago. they did the exact same thing with mario kart and wii fit
how is it dumbed down? it's a different genre is all.if ea announced an internally developed game from one of their decent teams that wasnt a dumbed down spinoff or a direct copy of everything else on the wii then i'd be all over it
you'll decide it's cheap based on nothing, and ignore it, you mean.they wont so ill stick to tiger woods from this year and ignore the rest of their cheap shit on the console.
EmCeeGramr said:you mean dead space extraction, a game developed by visceral studios
Sipowicz said:along with "triple A wii developers" eurocom. an on-rails guided first person spinoff that was apparently shat out in a few months and has been turned into an arcade game so it'll cost less to make and the casuals can play it
i know you disagree with me man but i honestly dont see the allure. and i dont see the sense of supporting a lazy lightgun game spinoff unless you want more of them
ah well. hope you enjoy it
would you PLEASE stop shitting on light gun games as if the entire genre is crap?Sipowicz said:along with "triple A wii developers" eurocom. an on-rails guided first person spinoff that was apparently shat out in a few months and has been turned into an arcade game so it'll cost less to make and the casuals can play it
i know you disagree with me man but i honestly dont see the allure. and i dont see the sense of supporting a lazy lightgun game spinoff unless you want more of them
ah well. hope you enjoy it
While I disagree about the 3rd party statement, I agree 100% with being sick of being told to buy stuff.jump_button said:this game a test im not buying it Im sick of being told to buy wii games
only good 3rd party game on wii are NMH and MH3
Yes please. I play the fuck out of these games and will continue to.Sipowicz said:unless you want more of them
co op in house of the dead is really really good.. same with umbrella chronicles although that game is simply too long to be enjoyed in co op mode since you cant beat it in one sittingDyno said:If a lightgun shooter sold for $30 then I'd be all for it but these games have a big boy price tag and in that regard utterly fail to deliver value.
How about adding on-rails multiplayer?
:lol
shichishito said:Yes please. I play the fuck out of these games and will continue to.
You don't find the appeal? That's cool; I just choose not to shit on games that don't appeal to me, though, for no reason other than that they don't appeal to me.
plagiarize said:would you PLEASE stop shitting on light gun games as if the entire genre is crap?
yes. it is a light gun game.
that doesn't mean it will be shit.
dead space extraction is graphically one of the best looking games on the system, and yet, you think it's some shit rush job for some reason i can't fathom beyond the fact that it is a light gun shooter.
i wonder if it's more of a Dead Space thing in this case.Saint10118 said:In addition people who have actually played the game have come away pretty much universally impressed (including those who were clearly unhappy about the on-rail aspect). Just because Extraction isn't what you would have dreamed up doesn't mean that it won't be solid, fun game.
I find I enjoy myself a lot more living in the land of what is versus what I wish it could be.
The Prime Genre is FPS and GTA like gamesA Twisty Fluken said:When people say "what do you want, more lightgun games and minigame collections" I think about Gunblade NY, Silent Scope, Warioware, Rhythm Heaven, etc. and that sounds pretty damn good. The implication that there's some sort of genre hierarchy is absurd.
plagiarize said:Umbrella Chronicles and House of the Dead: Overkill both had more than enough content to justify their price tags.
also, this has on-rails multiplayer co-op, with specific puzzles and features tailored to the mode.
hows about we wait until it's out to decide if it there's enough content to justify the cost or not?
EmCeeGramr said:It doesn't seem lazy or "shat out" at all (I'm not sure why you keep saying that), and I see no indication that Eurocom is involved as anything other than extra code monkeys. All the design, art, and story stuff is clearly handled by Visceral.
plagiarize said:would you PLEASE stop shitting on light gun games as if the entire genre is crap?
i beat the original dead space in 9 hours.JudgeN said:I disagree my fiancé and I beat both UC and overkill in a 5 day rental at blockbuster, unlocked all the modes in UC and beat the normal and director cut in overkill. While light gun shooters are fun while they last, Ive never had a light gun shooter last longer then 5 days. The genre should have never been introduced at full price IMO. I'm excited for Extraction like everyone else but I just can't put down full price on a game that I know won't last me longer then 5 days.
looks up a paragraph...Sipowicz said:i dont know where you're getting this impression.
Sipowicz said:the reason i think it's lazy or shat out is because it's a lightgun game
John Harker said:No one else thought that last dev walkthrough video with the huge boss looked awesome?
Totally buying this
It definitely depends on your goal for the game. My wife and I still play UC from time to time, despite unlocking everything. It's just a fun experience for us to fire up every once in a while.JudgeN said:I disagree my fiancé and I beat both UC and overkill in a 5 day rental at blockbuster, unlocked all the modes in UC and beat the normal and director cut in overkill. While light gun shooters are fun while they last, Ive never had a light gun shooter last longer then 5 days. The genre should have never been introduced at full price IMO. I'm excited for Extraction like everyone else but I just can't put down full price on a game that I know won't last me longer then 5 days.
plus we get Shattered Memories and if it's your kind of bag, The Grudge interactive haunted house thing.Fady K said:Yes, same here. Horror fan, Dead Space fan, and besides this is a prequel to the game, can't miss it Its actually cool that we're getting two first person on rails horror games for the Wii based on cool franchises in the same quarter.
Sipowicz said:the reason i think it's lazy or shat out is because it's a lightgun game
Sipowicz said:i like lightgun games
plagiarize said:yeah i don't know either. man, i'm just hallucinating or something.
plagiarize said:plus we get Shattered Memories and if it's your kind of bag, The Grudge interactive haunted house thing.
the Wii is currently the platform to own if you're a horror fan.
which is mad, and which will no doubt change, but it's still mad.