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[tsumineko]

What? What? And...what?
I think you're either making stuff up, or you have no idea what you're actual issues are. Because none of those have anything to do with Windows 8.

Yes of course, I'm just making it all up. Never mind.

 

[Monumental]

Yes of course, I'm just making it all up. Never mind.

Yeah, I'm literally saying that you're either making up the "sluggish performance" and "battery issues" and "mousepad problems", or they're all in your head.

As for the the rest of your "problems", like I said a 30 second lightweight install of any one of dozens of different little programs would completely remove metro, hotspots, boot to desktop, and bring back the start menu.

https://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/download.asp
http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/latest/download

And when I say it literally takes 30 seconds, it's not a hyperbolic statement unlike some that you've made about Windows 8.

But hey, at the end of the day if going back to Windows 7 removed all those performance and battery issues that were completely invented by your mind then more power to you.

 

[cory64]

Go W8Pro for Christmas, pulling the trigger on installing it now. I can't fight my curiosity.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

My battery life is noticeably better after switching to 8. Also switching input languages between English and Japanese is easier.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

What media server should I use for my PS3?

 

[Sethos]

A friend of mine is asking all sorts of questions regarding Windows 8 but as I'm not running it, I can't really answer him He wants to upgrade to Windows 8, Microsoft has that fancy upgrade site where you can get it at a favourable price after running the "Upgrade assistant". The upgrade version he's buying, is that a full fledged Windows 8 he can install on even clean machines or is that an upgrade only that requires some sort of Windows 7 verification? Never really messed around with upgrades.

 

[maeh2k]

A friend of mine is asking all sorts of questions regarding Windows 8 but as I'm not running it, I can't really answer him He wants to upgrade to Windows 8, Microsoft has that fancy upgrade site where you can get it at a favourable price after running the "Upgrade assistant". The upgrade version he's buying, is that a full fledged Windows 8 he can install on even clean machines or is that an upgrade only that requires some sort of Windows 7 verification? Never really messed around with upgrades.

The cheap Windows 8 upgrade offer (which ends in February) upgrades an existing Windows license (XP, Vista, 7) to a Windows 8 license. For a new Windows license he'd have to get the system builder version, which is more expensive. Having upgraded a license it's however possible to do a clean install of Windows 8 (without having to first install the older version).

 

[Sethos]

The cheap Windows 8 upgrade offer (which ends in February) upgrades an existing Windows license (XP, Vista, 7) to a Windows 8 license. For a new Windows license he'd have to get the system builder version, which is more expensive. Having upgraded a license it's however possible to do a clean install of Windows 8 (without having to first install the older version).

Okay, so does that turn his Windows 7 Ultimate key into a permanent Windows 8 key or is it purely a verification?

 

[Jarate]

So, windows 8 refuses to allow me to install drivers, or update my drivers, and it also refuses to update correctly

is there some secret code that im fucking mising?

 

[jsnepo]

I guess I will be keeping Windows 8. The indexer issue is somehow resolved. It no longer restarts indexing every time I boot the PC.

 

[Anton Sugar]

So, windows 8 refuses to allow me to install drivers, or update my drivers, and it also refuses to update correctly

is there some secret code that im fucking mising?

What happens, exactly? I haven't had any driver issues thus far.

 

[Captain Pants]

I'm just trying out Windows 8 for the first time. I'm trying to install the Oblivion GOTY edition off of a DVD and it won't open the Oblivion Launcher, or the Setup program. I've played with the compatibility settings and that isn't working. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd post a screencap, but I don't even know how to do that.

 

[Windu]

Apps!

Found this useful application, make any file a nice little tile.

Tile A File (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d9e91991-056b-422e-a706-cf6215c31965)

This one is useful for keeping up with your product keys although I don't know how secure it actually is.

ProductKeys (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/a2f74159-44f7-4368-aa2b-a852cb0ff737)

And finally audible is back on the marketplace.

Audible - Audiobooks and more (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/4bfe6201-39fa-41b4-ab34-9f4e5a8d489f)

I still haven't found any good pc monitoring stuff, I want a live tile that shows the storage left on my drives and a battery life live tile.

 

[Steelyuhas]

I'm just trying out Windows 8 for the first time. I'm trying to install the Oblivion GOTY edition off of a DVD and it won't open the Oblivion Launcher, or the Setup program. I've played with the compatibility settings and that isn't working. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd post a screencap, but I don't even know how to do that.

Windows Key + Print Screen

The screen will dim for a second and caps will automatically be saved into a screenshots folder in your pictures.

Apps!

Found this useful application, make any file a nice little tile.

Tile A File (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d9e91991-056b-422e-a706-cf6215c31965)

This one is useful for keeping up with your product keys although I don't know how secure it actually is.

ProductKeys (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/a2f74159-44f7-4368-aa2b-a852cb0ff737)

And finally audible is back on the marketplace.

Audible - Audiobooks and more (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/4bfe6201-39fa-41b4-ab34-9f4e5a8d489f)

I still haven't found any good pc monitoring stuff, I want a live tile that shows the storage left on my drives and a battery life live tile.

Tile a file is cool, downloaded. I'd downloaded ProductKeys some time ago, but then just decided to keep my product keys in a OneNote notebook as I'd already been doing that.

 

[MrBig]

Okay, so does that turn his Windows 7 Ultimate key into a permanent Windows 8 key or is it purely a verification?

There is actually no current key involved in the $15 upgrade offer, just fill out the form and it should email you a promo code that you then use in the upgrade assistant to make the purchase of a new license at $15. Then it lets you download a full windows ISO that you can install however you want.

 

[Captain Pants]

Windows Key + Print Screen

The screen will dim for a second and caps will automatically be saved into a screenshots folder in your pictures.

I don't have the option to switch it into Windows 2000 compatibility or Windows 98SE. Maybe I just need to buy a newer printing of the game, but I'm hoping to find a workaround.

edit: Got it working. I tried everything except for Vista compatibility settings, and that was what got it going.

 

[Sethos]

There is actually no current key involved in the $15 upgrade offer, just fill out the form and it should email you a promo code that you then use in the upgrade assistant to make the purchase of a new license at $15. Then it lets you download a full windows ISO that you can install however you want.

Nice, that should make him happy.

Appreciate it!

 

[kitch9]

I guess I will be keeping Windows 8. The indexer issue is somehow resolved. It no longer restarts indexing every time I boot the PC.

Maybe it finished indexing...

 

[kitch9]

Yes of course, I'm just making it all up. Never mind.

I'd say you are too I'm afraid.

 

[The Real Abed]

Yep

I thought it would be best to keep it as an option.

"Dekstop"?

 

[Jobiensis]

There are still AHCI driver issues with Windows 8 that can cause sluggish problems (long pauses w/ disk access). I have a computer that does this. You can google it if you are so inclined.

I don't see how battery life being worse in 8 than 7 is anything shocking, it is probably driver related.

These sorts of things usually eventually get fixed or get to the point they don't matter (antiquated hardware). It happened with every Windows release, no need calling anyone that disses your favorite OS a liar over issues that are possible.

 

[greycolumbus]

This looks like an excellent irc client

IRC Explorer (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/c210318f-2ec5-4ebf-ac55-87641b4a7733)

Trying it out right now. Looks like you can make it run in the background by putting it as one of your lockscreen apps.

Yeah I really like it.

 

[Blearth]

The boot time with an SSD is fucking incredible. I'm at the lock screen as soon as my monitor turns on.

Also, is there a way to disable the lock screen/password entry?

 

[SPDIF]

"Dekstop"?

Ha, I didn't think anybody would notice. I actually noticed that soon after I posted the screenshot but just couldn't be bothered to fix it and take a new screenshot. Good job I'm not submitting it any time soon.

 

[Iadien]

The boot time with an SSD is fucking incredible. I'm at the lock screen as soon as my monitor turns on.

Also, is there a way to disable the lock screen/password entry?

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/142482-how-to-disable-the-windows-8-lock-screen

 

[Blearth]

Thanks.

Is there a way to boot straight into the Start screen without having to enter your password other than using a local account?

 

[SPDIF]

Thanks.

Is there a way to boot straight into the Start screen without having to enter your password other than using a local account?

Like this?

 

[Blearth]

You guys are awesome!!!

 

[jsnepo]

Maybe it finished indexing...

It did. The problem is once the PC reboots, it rebuilds the index.

 

[TheDanger]

Is there any way to disable the clock and the network status on the logon screen, it screws up the GTA V logo of the beachweather wallpaper ? I'd also change registry settings and stuff like that so it doesn't have to be an official way.

 

[The Real Abed]

Ha, I didn't think anybody would notice. I actually noticed that soon after I posted the screenshot but just couldn't be bothered to fix it and take a new screenshot. Good job I'm not submitting it any time soon.

Your mistake was underestimating my ability to notice things. Maybe next time you'll estimate me.

;-) <--Winky face

 

[megarockexe]

The boot time with an SSD is fucking incredible. I'm at the lock screen as soon as my monitor turns on.

Also, is there a way to disable the lock screen/password entry?

How did you set up? I think my times are much much worse because of some dependency on the hard drive. I think the master boot record. I think it takes me almost a full minute to get to the lock screen with the bios and OS selection screen taking up time. The logo loading part also seems to take a little longer than expected.

 

[zehruela]

Apps!

Found this useful application, make any file a nice little tile.

Tile A File (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d9e91991-056b-422e-a706-cf6215c31965)

This one is useful for keeping up with your product keys although I don't know how secure it actually is.

ProductKeys (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/a2f74159-44f7-4368-aa2b-a852cb0ff737)

And finally audible is back on the marketplace.

Audible - Audiobooks and more (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/4bfe6201-39fa-41b4-ab34-9f4e5a8d489f)

I still haven't found any good pc monitoring stuff, I want a live tile that shows the storage left on my drives and a battery life live tile.

ill check this later, thanks

 

[Iadien]

How did you set up? I think my times are much much worse because of some dependency on the hard drive. I think the master boot record. I think it takes me almost a full minute to get to the lock screen with the bios and OS selection screen taking up time. The logo loading part also seems to take a little longer than expected.

That seems too long, even if you have an HDD. Check the first page of http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493301 for help with setting up an SSD.

 

[Pooya]

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...e/2013/01/18/update-on-windows-8-pricing.aspx

Windows 8 upgrade editions will be priced as follows starting in February:

• The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Media Center Pack will cost $9.99 MSRP (U.S.).

I think these are pretty bad considering current situation around win8...

 

[Steelyuhas]

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...e/2013/01/18/update-on-windows-8-pricing.aspx

Windows 8 upgrade editions will be priced as follows starting in February:

• The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Media Center Pack will cost $9.99 MSRP (U.S.).

I think these are pretty bad considering current situation around win8...

A very small portion of consumers upgrade to the new version of Windows by purchasing Windows and upgrading their current machine. People upgrade to the next version of Windows when they purchase a new PC.

That said, I do think those prices are pretty high.

 

[cory64]

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...e/2013/01/18/update-on-windows-8-pricing.aspx

Windows 8 upgrade editions will be priced as follows starting in February:

• The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Media Center Pack will cost $9.99 MSRP (U.S.).

I think these are pretty bad considering current situation around win8...

Wow that's steep. Five times the promo price.

 

[Jobiensis]

Those prices seem fairly typical. Pro was always massively expensive. I did kind of expect them to soften on the prices, not sure how this coincides with Blue.

 

[Stinkles]

Well, you can drag the desktop down to close it so it is an app.

You can safely do that with processes too, so I am not sure about this.

 

[venne]

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...e/2013/01/18/update-on-windows-8-pricing.aspx

Windows 8 upgrade editions will be priced as follows starting in February:

• The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Media Center Pack will cost $9.99 MSRP (U.S.).

I think these are pretty bad considering current situation around win8...

What's the system builder price? That's the only one I'm concerned with.

Also, can you upgrade a 32 bit Windows install to 64 bit windows 8?

 

[D4Danger]

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...e/2013/01/18/update-on-windows-8-pricing.aspx

Windows 8 upgrade editions will be priced as follows starting in February:

• The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.).
• The Windows 8 Media Center Pack will cost $9.99 MSRP (U.S.).

I think these are pretty bad considering current situation around win8...

they must be doing this so people on the fence buy the upgrade now

either that or they've just stopped caring

 

[giga]

A very small portion of consumers upgrade to the new version of Windows by purchasing Windows and upgrading their current machine. People upgrade to the next version of Windows when they purchase a new PC.

That said, I do think those prices are pretty high.

Good thing that new PC purchases are declining.

 

[JTran2003]

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/142482-how-to-disable-the-windows-8-lock-screen

I just recently bought a laptop with windows 8. Tried to do that but I do not have access to the Local Group Policy editor since its the vanilla version... might try to see if i can get the cheap upgrade though. The pro version comes with bitlocker and media center, right?

 

[KageZero]

Hello,
i don't know where else to ask so i will put the question here. Is there any way to change the visual style of win 8 like there was on win 7? I saw some theme on devart but are they safe to install with those patches?

 

[Xyphie]

FPP pricing has always been crap. Just buy OEM/System Builder. They're even officially transferable now.

 

[Windu]

My installed metro applications (tablet):

Nextgen Reader (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/30648d7a-f0b5-4719-8ca9-7ed6ce3b4b9b)

IRC Explorer (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/c210318f-2ec5-4ebf-ac55-87641b4a7733)

Tweetro+ (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/b8945f57-1280-41a1-ab26-a55a7ef95918)

to-dos (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/628923e3-6088-413d-b9dd-5666abd8f352)

Latest Chatty 8 (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/ea346c2f-ecf8-429e-ab29-e625164ed7e5)

Netflix (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d8d75bb2-c5cd-44f2-8c26-c1d1ae5b13fa)

Skype (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/5e19cc61-8994-4797-bdc7-c21263f6282b)

Mail, Calendar, People, and Messaging (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/64a79953-cf0b-44f9-b5c4-ee5df3a15c63)

Photos (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/80703976-7271-478b-909d-c1805a297206)

Weather (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/421ba874-f903-4965-9b82-d60f3ba3cae0)

SkyDrive (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/2682e314-15ab-4510-bbb3-d33da78a44d9)

Music (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/16db93bf-8748-449a-96ba-e9ed3a5f872d)

Video (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/64b22df1-5a9c-4c88-aa1f-42cefaf8b281)

TuneIn Radio (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/a2b86ed9-4db2-4ded-ae34-aa44530370ff)

XBMC Remote + (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/00efbddd-6596-4a31-bfeb-9151f1403f62)

Kindle (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/1d7e4396-0143-4aed-8892-84eb75e799f3)

SlapDash Podcasts (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/0c62e66a-f2e4-4403-af88-3430a821741e)

gMusic (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/939f0859-1413-4a52-9ab6-6e50405c8c2e)

IP Address (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/ce78edd3-5d91-4db8-bc10-b1c11fcdfb1d)

Remote Desktop (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/051f560e-5e9b-4dad-8b2e-fa5e0b05a480)

Calculator X8 (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/31f570a2-9ab1-42d0-95be-f02bce4342ae)

PC Remote Windows (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/a57fb56f-6fda-44ba-93da-fe88a2513830)

Reader (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/8a4ae377-a4ab-4260-9b80-f9382360e291)

Camera (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/1f9239de-0aab-489b-85f3-379e82e34820)

Bing my lockscreen (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/7e1f890f-8960-43e5-a258-58ba3eeb1163)

Tile A File (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d9e91991-056b-422e-a706-cf6215c31965)

Sports (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d9a4d6fd-a65b-41a6-95ff-270b882ea5f1)

News (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/eaaf2ce3-d5a3-4a59-ae31-276fbc44a7cd)

Finance (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/ffc158e5-74d6-4878-8ace-8f0df45083c1)

The ESPN App (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/3c3536bd-f432-468c-a6e4-fa1ecd49e5fc)

Games (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/15a9edda-c1ee-48bc-b670-847c610baf41)

Microsoft Solitaire Collection (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/1a36fd17-5161-4651-ae2d-13384e427ea8)

Wordament (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/9c10bc10-75bf-41e3-a26a-01aba908af85)

Taptiles (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/57cf2121-0bdf-4b35-9ab0-5ad228303b02)

Jetpack Joyride (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/05f4e887-b558-4a95-a74a-4ffe587d2d83)

Pinball FX2 (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/cb9608e7-ac6b-4127-85b7-f81e27c9ebf0)

Microsoft Minesweeper (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/45ac18d7-e742-494f-a1b1-009aa412a179)

Cut The Rope (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/2d85eb97-3ee6-4aff-9618-3f6cdfd68291)

Snes8x (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d0c894c3-67a3-47e0-95df-405fb8eb9e25)

OneNote (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/f022389f-f3a6-417e-ad23-704fbdf57117)

CookBook (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/b295514a-14d2-4534-aa6d-78dd7d8aeb1d)

Allrecipes (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/41465f3f-1ecd-4e43-814d-a77b12ff2fbd)

Amazon (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/80299018-3dee-418d-8466-374fe9463309)

Newegg (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/58866e06-e093-4094-991f-c4daabe69d21)

Trackage (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/82c57571-f57d-4876-baba-c6fc9db2aed7)

Clipboard (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/d12111fe-bfa8-4050-96c1-c6571e1f3230)

 

[Pooya]

I'm still looking for an app that shows PC temperature and battery life on a live tile, win7 gadgets could do all of that.

 

[Windu]

this looks like a useful one as well.

Share Photo to Facebook (http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/app/ae3b5341-a854-4d9b-87d0-5fb0cc852694)

I'm still looking for an app that shows PC temperature and battery life on a live tile, win7 gadgets could do all of that.

Yeah I haven't seen any of those yet.

 

[antiquegamer]

they must be doing this so people on the fence buy the upgrade now

either that or they've just stopped caring

That's normal pricing for Windows. I did upgrade my daughter hand me down 4 years old laptop since I have the $15.00 promo code and I was surprise how good Windows 8 run on that old Sony Vaio (it has core 2 duo).

 

[Nero3000]

That's normal pricing for Windows. I did upgrade my daughter hand me down 4 years old laptop since I have the $15.00 promo code and I was surprise how good Windows 8 run on that old Sony Vaio (it has core 2 duo).

Running Windows 8 on a 5 year old Sony Vaio FZ with a Core 2 duo. I upgraded the RAM and HDD to an SSD. The OS flies on it.

Hopefully the next generation of Atom Processors approach Core 2 Duo performance.