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[Black Republican]

Girls Trip did crazy good, a black comedy with 4 black female characters pulling $30mil off that bat already clearing its Budget.

Goddamn, if other studios dont take notice of this, they're fucking dumb

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Paramount's five highest domestic grossers since 2014:

-Mission Impossible Rogue Nation (2015): $195m ($683m WW)

-The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water (2015): $163m ($325m WW)

-Star Trek Beyond (2016): $158m ($343m WW)

-Transformers: The Last Knight (2017): $125m ($547m WW)

-Arrival (2016): $91m ($203m WW)

They haven't had a movie pass $200m domestic in 3 years.

Comparison to Sony.

Spider-Man Homecoming (Still in cinema) - $251,711,581

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $202,853,933

Specter - $200,074,609

22 Jump Street - $191,719,337

Hotel Transylvania 2 - $169,700,110

 

[mreddie]

No. There is another.

Nah, he's lost that shine for a bit.

Paul Thomas Anderson though.

 

[Toa TAK]

Nah, he's lost that shine for a bit.

Paul Thomas Anderson though.

Now you're speaking my tongue.

 

[DMczaf]

cruise just had a bomba




it's only Leo and Nolan




Inception 2 lets go.

Inception 2 with Leo and Hardy returning...

 

[Bronx-Man]

Baby Driver has a shot at being one of Sony's 10 biggest domestic earners since the start of 2013.

That's simultaneously awesome and hilarious.

 

[vinnygambini]

Paramount's five highest domestic grossers since 2014:

-Mission Impossible Rogue Nation (2015): $195m ($683m WW)

-The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water (2015): $163m ($325m WW)

-Star Trek Beyond (2016): $158m ($343m WW)

-Transformers: The Last Knight (2017): $125m ($547m WW)

-Arrival (2016): $91m ($203m WW)

They haven't had a movie pass $200m domestic in 3 years.

Arrival crossed the $100M domestically.

Furthermore, you have Daddy's Home that did $150M domestically as well.

 

[Akainu]

Those models shown this week...

Should be a crime to make kaiju look so boring. Really wish Pacific Rim ever delivered on the hype, I want to love it so much :'[

Boring Kaiju? :/ Thread?

 

[mreddie]

Baby Driver has a shot at being one of Sony's 10 biggest domestic earners since the start of 2013.

Edgar Wright to Sony

Saved Sony from embarrassment before Marvel saved their ass.

 

[Obliterator]

Has Nolan ever hinted he's thought about Inception 2? Because yeah that would be massive at the Box Office

Though I feel like a sequel wouldn't really work with that ending

 

[AndyVirus]

Now that is a sequel I think will improve on the previous entry's domestic total.

Didn't you also say Black Panther will get 300m+ domestic?

 

[lightskintwin]

Girls Trip did crazy good, a black comedy with 4 black female characters pulling $30mil off that bat already clearing its Budget.

Goddamn, if other studios dont take notice of this, they're fucking dumb

Black films have been doing this for years. This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody who has kept up. Even last year's critically panned When the Bough Breaks that starred Morris Chestnut and Regina Hall made 30 million domestically off a 10 million production budget.

Hollywood knows this, it's one of their best kept secrets.

 

[DMczaf]

Has Nolan ever hinted he's thought about Inception 2? Because yeah that would be massive at the Box Office

Though I feel like a sequel wouldn't really work with that ending

Nah, it's never happening.

But WB prays for the green light every day

 

[mreddie]

Girls Trip did crazy good, a black comedy with 4 black female characters pulling $30mil off that bat already clearing its Budget.

Goddamn, if other studios dont take notice of this, they're fucking dumb

Get Out.

If they still haven't figured out why it worked...

 

[Ashhong]

LOL OK. Spider Man in it's 3rd week, War for the Planet of the Apes in it's 2nd week, and Valerian opening the same week is ABSOLUTELY going to be competition for Dunkirk. What demographic do you think overlaps with each other. Better yet what do you think the young demographic and women would rather watch in order of preference if given multiple options? Don't let Valerian be critically acclaimed and a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Atomic Blonde has that appeal to young demographic, women, and older male demographic. The Emoji Film is going to pull the family demographic.

IMO Dunkirk appeals to hardcore Nolan fans, War film fans, and skewed to an older male demographic that's primarily White. I think the other films appeal to a much wider audience tbh.

I don't think it even makes 100 million domestically. I remember when the projections were as high as 60 million for the weekend, and I could see a mile away the type of film it was, it's story, the marketing, and the month it was launching full of competition that it was gonna be disappointment.

Mark my words, that's what the headlines are going to read after it's opening weekend, about it's lackluster performance at the box office, at least domestically. I have no idea how well it will perform internationally, but I suspect it should do well in European markets.

The first week of August opens with The Dark Tower. Dunkirk is in trouble.

Interstellar was a EPIC SCIENCE FICTION SPACE film that starrted an ensemble cast of Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway, Jessica Chastain, Michael Caine, etc... and it opened in NOVEMBER, not in a jam packed summer blockbuster month full of releases.

No idea why people keep comparing the film and it's release to other of Nolan's films without accounting for all the different variables.

I think Dunkirk will probably be an awards contender and it should've launched in November among all the buzz. I think it's prospects of having long legs would've been greater in the fall.

You keep pointing to other films that are gonna bomb, but have you considered for a moment that it could be Dunkirk that bombs? LOL Nolan was paid 20 million along with 20 percent of the gross. I'm pretty certain the budget of the film is closer to the 200 million mark than it is the 100 million mark.

People who don't normally watch "Oscar fare" are more programmed to watch these films in the Fall. Awards season buzz would've been much more hyped for the release.



You don't get it, it's more big budget blockbuster films in the theater that will take away from it's potential audience.

Reasonable response that I agree with. At worst, the movie tanks but Nolan is gracious Warner Brothers let him do his passion project, and next movie WB steers him to a do a more appealing high concept blockbuster with big stars that's guaranteed to bring box office returns.

Also the difference between Dunkirk and Mad Max Fury Road is Mad Max Fury Road had Charlize Theron and other women. Dunkirk is a complete sausage fest.

Ok, the bolded is a good point due to the ramping up of all the big blockbusters in the fall. I don't know. Perhaps they should've did a limited release for awards qualifications this year and launched it at the beginning of the year in January or February.

I'm pretty confident Dunkirk isn't a bad film. In fact, I'm confident it'll have good, if not great reviews. I don't think it's going to bomb either, only that it's going to have a very disappointing performance relative to the production and print and advertising budget and it's overall expectation.

I just don't think Dunkirk is a very appealing bid budget blockbuster film to a mass American audience regardless if it's great and it's made by Nolan. So maybe there was a never good time for it open here.



Avatar bet, The Dark Tower makes more than 10 mil opening weekend?

Been saving this. I look forward to the next couple of weeks to see how Dunkirk plays out.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

cruise just had a bomba




it's only Leo and Nolan




Inception 2 lets go.

You sure about that?

 

[mreddie]

Mummy and Pirates didn't do good in the US but outside, they did fine.

 

[Prompto]

Has Nolan ever hinted he's thought about Inception 2? Because yeah that would be massive at the Box Office

Though I feel like a sequel wouldn't really work with that ending

This is the only quote I could find about a sequel from him:

I always imagined Inception to be a world where a lot of other stories could take place. At the moment, the only direction we’re channeling that is by developing a videogame set in the world.

I guess that game never got off the ground :/

 

[Bobby Roberts]

You sure about that?

Yes. it's lost about $100mil guaranteed. Might lose more.

 

[Socivol]

Black films have been doing this for years. This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody who has kept up. Even last year's critically panned When the Bough Breaks that starred Morris Chestnut and Regina Hall made 30 million domestically off a 10 million production budget.

Yup! Think Like A Man did crazy good too as well as Get Out. Black people want well written films that have black stars. There were some lines in Girls Trip that my friends have actually said word for word which made it not only hilarious but relatable.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

No. There is another.

When the box office numbers for that Manson family story come in, yall will be glad he's only got one film left

 

[BronsonLee]

Been saving this. I look forward to the next couple of weeks to see how Dunkirk plays out.

Why? This is stupid. Everybody can be off on their predictions, even swiss and BGE.

Just not, you know, me.

 

[Schlorgan]

Arrival crossed the $100M domestically.

Furthermore, you have Daddy's Home that did $150M domestically as well.

Fixed. Thank you.

Been saving this. I look forward to the next couple of weeks to see how Dunkirk plays out.

He really went all in, didn't he?

 

[Spike Spiegel]

What's the foreign box office looking like for Valerian? The Fifth Element was a dud in the US but made something like 3/4 of its gross from overseas markets.

 

[lightskintwin]

Been saving this. I look forward to the next couple of weeks to see how Dunkirk plays out.

I was completely wrong. I thought Dunkirk's subject matter and marketing wouldn't resonate with American audiences regardless of Nolan's brand.

Yeah, I was wrong.

I WILL NEVER BET AGAINST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR NOLAN AGAIN.

I hope you all can forgive me for forsaking him.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Yes. it's lost about $100mil guaranteed. Might lose more.

Good to hear. The movie was terrible.

 

[DMczaf]

I was completely wrong. I thought Dunkirk's subject matter and marketing wouldn't resonate with American audiences regardless of Nolan's brand.

Yeah, I was wrong.

I WILL NEVER BET AGAINST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR NOLAN AGAIN.

I hope you all can forgive me for forsaking him.

You are forgiven.

Nolan shall bless you with a nice vest and tea

 

[Ashhong]

Why? This is stupid. Everybody can be off on their predictions, even swiss and BGE.

Just not, you know, me.

He was very, VERY adamant. I am also never wrong.

Spoiler

Because I rarely make predictions

I was completely wrong. I thought Dunkirk's subject matter and marketing wouldn't resonate with American audiences regardless of Nolan's brand.

Yeah, I was wrong.

I WILL NEVER BET AGAINST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR NOLAN AGAIN.

I hope you all can forgive me for forsaking him.

<3

Next time believe in the Nolan hype! His WOM is too good at this point

 

[Sweeney Tom]

You sure about that?

Studio expected $500 mil minimum. Deadline already called it a bomb, it's a $100mil loss officially, and Hollywood Reporter says they're slowing down on the universe while doubling down on the stars because they think if Cruise wasn't there, it'd have been "a bigger flop"

It's a bomb

 

[QuantumZebra]

I am frightened for Episode VIII's drop :/

It's unlikely another film in the near future will do what Star Wars TFA did. That movie released blue balls worldwide. It was an event, not just a film.

I'm thinking 1.8b for TLJ.

 

[zero_suit]

Very impressive showing from Dunkirk.

I'm disappointed at the Apes drop, but at least WW keeps trucking. $400M is so close now.

 

[lightskintwin]

You are forgiven.

Nolan shall bless you with a nice vest and tea

I feel like i have to go to the theater and watch Dunkirk to be truly forgiven.

 

[mreddie]

Studio expected $500 mil minimum. Deadline already called it a bomb, it's a $100mil loss officially, and Hollywood Reporter says they're slowing down on the universe while doubling down on the stars because they think if Cruise wasn't there, it'd have been "a bigger flop"

It's a bomb

So it is a flop, what about Pirates?

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Well I'll be. This movie has destroyed even the most lofty expectation anyone could've dreamed about.

WW really exceeded everyone's expectations, especially mine since I thought the movie was just okay, but definitely the best DCEU movie to date. I guess it shows the thirstiness for good DCEU movies, female led CBM, or both.

That's... not.. good, is it?

Nope. SPE is awful.

Since the start of 2015, the MCU (including Homecoming) has made about $20M less than all of Paramount domestically.

If Mother!, Suburbicon, and Daddy's Home 2 can't cumulatively defeat Thor Ragnarok domestically, Marvel Studios will be a bigger domestic studio from 2015-2017 than Paramount.

Lol. Well at least they get some kind of participation from the 2019 Indy movie that's bound to be a BO hit.

In all seriousness, that's probably why other studios are so reluctant to sell movie rights back to Marvel. Paramount had rights to Thor, Cap, Ironman, and Avengers IIRC. They made good money by selling existing and future distribution rights at the time, but that payment is over, and Marvel has only gotten bigger since then.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Christopher Nolan is the only movie star on the planet.

Leo doing what he did for The Revenant was amazing.

Definitely a dying breed though.

 

[DMczaf]

After those IMAX aerial dogfights in Dunkirk...

Nolan Top Gun 2 with the Cruise Missile !

 

[Puck Beaverton]

Nolantino only bankable director

 

[QuantumZebra]

Christopher Nolan is the only movie star on the planet.

It's funny since my other favorite directors each have a film that's bombing and stomping everyone's ass (WW and Valerian), but Nolan *always* delivers.

When I see one of his films I expect greatness at this point. Only director close to his consistency is JJ Abrams.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Get Out.

If they still haven't figured out why it worked...

I'm sure they had the wrong take away from that movie.

Escape

A young man in Harvard goes to visit his girlfriend's family, and things go south.
Starring Jennfier Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, Chris Pratt, Kendell Jenner. Budget - $185m

NeoGAF raves "It's got a bunch of megastars, guaranteed to do well because people go to movies to see the stars not the movie itself!"
EW - "This is such a fresh movie idea, never done before, wow!"
Variety - "This is peak Jennifer Lawrence right here, she's in her element! Kendell is amazing too! This is real hollywood!"

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Since Kswiss mentioned Baby Driver being in top 10 grosser for Sony, here are the movies that are currently in line for Baby Driver before it achieves that success.

Passengers - $100,014,699
This is the End - $101,470,202
The Equalizer - $101,530,738
Captain Phillips - $107,100,855

So I assume Kswiss expected at minimum for Baby Driver to end with $108 million LTD.

The rest of the Top 10 is as follow (2013-2017)

Spider-Man Homecoming (Still in cinema) - $251,711,581
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $202,853,933
Specter - $200,074,609
22 Jump Street - $191,719,337
Hotel Transylvania 2 - $169,700,110
American Hustle - $150,117,807
Grown Ups 2 - $133,668,525
Ghosterbusters - $128,350,574
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 - $119,793,567
The Angry Birds Movie - $107,509,366

 

[Slayven]

Having a studio that produced 7 films potentialy outgross the entire 3 year output of one of the "big 6" isn't a good look.

Hell, Star Wars might be ahead domestically in almost that same timeframe by the end of January 2018. So the domestic total of 3 films could potentially beat out all of Paramount over the previous 37 months.

I said goddamn, Paramount should just give marvel the rights to everything they own

I'm sure they had the wrong take away from that movie.

Escape

A young man in Harvard goes to visit his girlfriend's family, and things go south.

Starring Jennfier Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, Chris Pratt, Kendell Jenner

If that isn't on DVD in the next 18 months, i will be shocked

 

[FTF]

I am frightened for Episode VIII's drop :/

It'll wind up being the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time domestically. Nothing to be frightened about.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

So it is a flop, what about Pirates?

Didn't do well domestic, but having success internationally. Up in the air on if international performance will be enough to make them want to do one more film, because they're definitely surprised by how much people didn't want any more of this in the US.

 

[Schlorgan]

I said goddamn, Paramount should just give marvel the rights to everything they own

They're already hurting so much after selling the Marvel stuff, I doubt they ever sell anything again.

 

[Toa TAK]

You sure about that?

Let this Mummy Rest In Peace.

Edit: wait, The Mummy is a straight bomb?!

Faith in mankind restored.

 

[xaosslug]

ww chart added

 

[BronsonLee]

I would stay far the fuck away from a Jennifer Lawrence movie co-starring Bradley Cooper OR Chris Pratt at this point but all three together oh no

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I would stay far the fuck away from a Jennifer Lawrence movie co-starring Bradley Cooper OR Chris Pratt at this point but all three together oh no

American Hustle made $150 million though. Thankfully Joy finally put this trinity to end.

 

[Slayven]

Let this Mummy Rest In Peace.

Edit: wait, The Mummy is a straight bomb?!

Faith in mankind restored.

Channing Tatum as van Hellsing will save the Dark Universe

 

[Boke1879]

I would stay far the fuck away from a Jennifer Lawrence movie co-starring Bradley Cooper OR Chris Pratt at this point but all three together oh no

LMFAOO