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Wow, being short instantly kills a man's chances in online dating

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Being black is also a challenge in online dating I have seen some woman flat out stating if you're black don't even think about messaging them, which makes me wonder what we ever did to anyone
 
Being black is also a challenge in online dating I have seen some woman flat out stating if you're black don't even think about messaging them, which makes me wonder what we ever did to anyone

Going to have to agree with this, and this is coming from someone light enough to pass for many other ethnicities. If you are not going for the type of girls who have "built in stereotypes" of black men, or are chasing some rapper fantasy they have been fed via the media, it is much much harder.

Being 5'7 has been a non factor.
 
Ok so being short makes many women ignore other good qualities about you. Does it go the other way by being taller they ignore the not so good qualities about you? I've never done online dating or used any apps like tindr.

I am 6'4-5ish and overweight but I don't look as heavy as I really am. Would my height be enough to get girls to overlook some other minor negative traits such as being overweight?
 
I find that really tall women often have hangups about being really tall. A lot of them have been 5'10" since they were like 14, and it didn't exactly endear them to their classmates, especially before they "filled in". I've met a few who only got hit on by athletes in HS and college, so that's the kind of guy they go for.

One of the downsides for starting my MtF transition as late as I did (27) is that there isn't much I can do about my 6'2" height (which makes me a pretty tall woman). If there were a way to donate height to other people, I'd happily drop myself down a little.

All the people I've either crushed on or gone out with have been shorter than me, and I've always been fine with that. My fiancé is 5'7".
 
If he's as good looking as you say, he'll be fine. Height isn't a deal breaker for every woman in the world.

This. I have a height fetish myself but it doesn't really hurt dating a shorter guy if he's good looking with a great personality. You can look over the small stuff.
 
Just tell him not to make online dating his primary vehicle to find people, its just side show that some people occasionally get lucky with.

You just have to dodge that kind of scum. She was not a princess with a height preference, trust me. He was lucky he got the warning shot across the bow.
 
Also can't you just lie in online dating?

I am sure if you are able to talk a woman into meeting you that being shorter than she thinks wouldnt stop you if your game is on point.
 
Being black is also a challenge in online dating I have seen some woman flat out stating if you're black don't even think about messaging them, which makes me wonder what we ever did to anyone

Going to have to agree with this, and this is coming from someone light enough to pass for many other ethnicities. If you are not going for the type of girls who have "built in stereotypes" of black men, or are chasing some rapper fantasy they have been fed via the media, it is much much harder.

Being 5'7 has been a non factor.

Depends on where you are really.

I've cleaned up with tinder matches with white, Jewish, and Hispanic women in the liberal northeast (Boston, NYC), the liberal south (Atlanta), and the liberal West coast (San Fran/Oakland).

Terrible success with Asian (Chinese/Japanese/Korean) women (a few matches here and there with zero dates) or Indian women in those same cities though.

I'm sure my experience would be much different in less diverse places or places with a more charged racial atmospheres.
 
It's more ikely the internet than anything else, people think they know a person by a pic and a couple of sentences, tell your friend to keep his head up and he'll find someone. I have friends around his hieght and they beautiful girlfriends and wive
 
Being black is also a challenge in online dating I have seen some woman flat out stating if you're black don't even think about messaging them, which makes me wonder what we ever did to anyone
Where are you? I'm in Toronto and I can't ever remember seeing that, because though I'm not black, I wouldn't date anybody who would say that on their profil.
 
Uhh, this sounds like problems most have with online dating. You get very few responses for lots of send messages. Height could hurt him but what you described doesn't seem much different from what taller people experience.

This. I have a height fetish myself but it doesn't really hurt dating a shorter guy if he's good looking with a great personality. You can look over the small stuff.
Right but in an online dating scenario you're not getting as much exposure of great personality to overwrite. Things like younger are very physical based and how you make your snap decisions. He could be the most interesting/charming men but a lot of that is list in online dating depending on the medium is used.
 
Depends on where you are really.

I've cleaned up with tinder matches with white, Jewish, and Hispanic women in the liberal northeast (Boston, NYC), the liberal south (Atlanta), and the liberal West coast (San Fran/Oakland).

Terrible success with Asian (Chinese/Japanese/Korean) women (a few matches here and there with zero dates) or Indian women in those same cities though.

I'm sure my experience would be much different in less diverse places or places with a more charged racial atmospheres.

When I was on I was mostly going for subcontinent(Indian/Bengali/Lankan) women so that might have played a major part in it
 
Lol people telling you to just lie on your profile. What's going to happen when you meet.

Fuck off with that catfishing bullshit.
 
One of the downsides for starting my MtF transition as late as I did (27) is that there isn't much I can do about my 6'2" height (which makes me a pretty tall woman). If there were a way to donate height to other people, I'd happily drop myself down a little.

All the people I've either crushed on or gone out with have been shorter than me, and I've always been fine with that. My fiancé is 5'7".

Hey, I love me some amazons. Nothing better than a really tall leggy woman! I'm 6'2 as well though.
 
I've claimed many times to my buds that I'd squander a genie wish on just 4 more inches added to my height. Bein short all my life has been a drag.
 
I've heard of men being rejected because they're not taller than the woman when she's wearing heels, I've heard of men being rejected because they weighed less than the women, I've heard of men being rejected because they don't earn as much, aren't as well educated, and obviously I've heard of men being rejected because they aren't as intelligent or as attractive as the woman.

But I've also heard of men rejecting women because they earn more, are smarter, are taller, are more athletic etc.

So I guess what we can learn from this is that gender stereotypes are alive and well.
 
If they're A-cups they shouldn't even be dissing short men. [/acerbic]


Uhh, this sounds like problems most have with online dating. You get very few responses for lots of send messages. Height could hurt him but what you described doesn't seem much different from what taller people experience.

Except he gets significantly higher responses when he leaves out height. The bias is clear.
 
I'm not saying it's not a hurdle, but plenty of women don't give a shit about height. Sense of humor, kindness, ambition, guys who have their shit together, etc.

Yeah, when I was younger and less mature, height seemed much more important than it does now. Everyone has their own preferences, but being fun to hang out with is much more important to me.

My husband and I met when we were 18 and we were both 5'10", which was convenient! He grew a bit more in the following few years, just to be awkward.

If they're A-cups they shouldn't even be dissing short men. [/acerbic]

:-(
 
It's too bad the guy is straight, lots of gay guys love a short dude. I'm 5"7 and in dating I would often meet guys my height and taller who were turned on by my size.
 
I always find it funny when girls are basically spelling out: "Don't waste my time if you are under 6', you emasculated pathetic cuckhold disgusting weak freak!".
 
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When someone fights heightism with weightism

This classic need to be posted in every thread about male height.
 
I'd rather those girls be honest with their preference than waste your time and money.

I wish I could write 'no MySpace angles' without looking like an asshole.
 
I don't think being a different race is anywhere near as bad as being short. I am tall and it has negated my race to the point where my race isn't giving me any dating issues. Sure, most girls will not date men of certain races, but if everything else is right about you, there are a lot of women who simply don't care about your race. I would say that being short is a lot worse than being the "wrong" race. To the few who complain about race, it really isn't as bad as it seems to be. I constantly had women contacting me and never had to bother with sending out messages to random women who didn't show interest in me first.
 
Based only on anecdotal evidence from the Internet, I'd venture to say that, while being tall (as a guy) is a desirable trait probably everywhere, the almost sick obsession women seem to have with their partner's height (not only preferring but demanding and requiring the guy's height to be not just taller than theirs but also tall in general) is especially common first in the US and then in other Anglo countries (UK, Canada), and on third place perhaps Scandinavia: it is however much less important elsewhere.

I live in southwestern Europe, in my specific country the average male height is 5'9''-5'10'' (so not shorter than other Western countries) and yet I have literally never seen women openly stating a minimum height as a preference or requirement in their online dating profiles. Also, short-height shaming here seems to be very uncommon compared to what I heard happens in the US, and I say this as a very short guy myself (5'4'').
 
I say have him not do online dating. It's the worst. Both the men and women are on there for a reason. Because they kind of suck and aren't able to relate to others enough in person to get something going. I'm guilty of going through some rough patches and making an okcupid. we all are.

but he has got to get off okstupid. just start being friendly to everyone and let it happen naturally I say. if women aren't always attracted to him... so be it. I'm sure if he maintains a positive and productive life he will find an attractive woman every now and then that's into him.
 
wish I was 5'8 sometimes

being 6'8 I have back pain, strangers asking me for help because I can reach something and the worst of it: every damn person I meet "hey you play basketball??? Must've played a lot of basketball in college right????"

no I'm just a giant fucking nerd ok #tallproblems
 
The problem with online dating is a lot of people are shallow. It's hard to judge how someone will be after a certain response. You just have to keep going and eventually you'll hit it off with someone who won't care about stuff like that.

I actually met my current girlfriend on Tinder. We've been together for over a year and she's the best girl I've ever been with. Sometimes, you just need a little bit of luck, and patience. He should just keep trying - or go out and meet someone through mutual friends.
 
I think it's the same for tall women, but I've never done online dating, just heard rumors.

Haha no it's not. I know a lot of guys tall and short who like tall girls and I can't think of many guys who wouldn't date a tall girl. However a lot of girls consider anyone shorter than 6foot slightly below a eunuch.
 
I'd imagine that's not an issue exclusive to online dating for him.

I gotta agree. Though I don't think it's a problem with him but more their expectations.

He's 5 foot 3 inches, which admittedly is short for a guy. But if women are that shallow they're probably not worth the time of day for him. He should probably try physical face-to-face speed dating or something and see if that changes peoples perceptions because online dating is highly narcissist based over personality. :/
 
Average male height in the US is I think 5'9"

Generally anything under the average where you are is short to an extent

I'm 5'7" so yay I'm short :(

Also 5'7"

The short factor is real. I've never dated a women who has been taller than me, and I actually would want to. You're not even something to consider or at least it would be an uphill battle.

But you know, it's not just a factor in dating. People don't look at you with as much respect when you're considerably shorter. I imagine it has a huge effect in interviewing for certain positions.

America is a country of behemoths. You might need to be a hyper aggressive prick to stand among them if you're a shortie.
 
wish I was 5'8 sometimes

being 6'8 I have back pain, strangers asking me for help because I can reach something and the worst of it: every damn person I meet "hey you play basketball??? Must've played a lot of basketball in college right????"

no I'm just a giant fucking nerd ok #tallproblems

give me four inches will ya?

6'0 here and it seems like that's fine. I always wear work boots which add about one extra inch.

I've heard some real good looking women say no guys 6'3 or under.
 
America is a country of behemoths. You might need to be a hyper aggressive prick to stand among them if you're a shortie.

Hah. Being hyper aggressive will just get you labeled a napoleon, so I'd forget about that as well. The key I find is sort of being personable without coming across as a younger brother type.
 
Can you elaborate? I am curious what you mean.

A lot of girls will not explicitly say that they won't date Asian or black guys, but they aren't exactly their first choices either. With these girls, if you can get into the top say 20% of guys in your race, and not have the negative stereotypical traits associated with your race, you have a realistic shot with them.

I am a minority, but I never had to resort to messaging random women, and actually did better than a lot of average white guys. I would say that on a busy day, I would have interest shown or be contacted by around 15-20 women; 1-5 on a slow day. I had dates almost every day for two weeks straight and it got to the point where I had to schedule my dates a week in advance before closing my dating accounts. Anyhow, back to the point, there will be plenty of women who absolutely will not date men of certain races, but if you get into that higher tier of men within your race, it will be a non-factor because there will be a lot of women who will look past it.
 
In the online dating world women have the pick of the liter.

I saw my friends okcupid profile and she gets 20 to 30 responses a day.
 
I wonder if listing my height 5'9" would help or hurt me with matches on Tinder. Probably worth experimenting with.
 
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