Wouldn't be E3 without them!
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XB1 Elite Controller ($150)
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Wouldn't be E3 without them!
CambriaRising
Member
I'll wait to get this until it's clearanced out of retailers when no one buys it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Well, I hope it's a great controller for those that get it(it should be).
I'm not saying it should be like 70$ but something like 100$ would be a lot better.
BizzyBum
Member
Really?
I mean, it looks like a damn nice controller, but to buy inferior ports just because of the controller?
It's not like the PS4 controller is that bad.
I'll buy it just for use with Windows 10 alone. I've been rocking four 360 pads with Steam over the last 5 years, and it's time for a real upgrade. It will get more use than any console controller would ever have in my house anyway (I've got them all for the record). Couch PC gaming forever!
edit: will of course wait for a bit of a price drop. $150 is a bit muc
edit2: AAs 4 life. It's nice having a bunch of rechargeable on standby
edit: will of course wait for a bit of a price drop. $150 is a bit muc
edit2: AAs 4 life. It's nice having a bunch of rechargeable on standby
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I seriously do as long as there are cheaper alternatives for people that want to go that route.
This controller keeps the entry price low (standard controller) while offering something more for those willing to pay.
Sir Abacus
Member
I'm not hurting for money. I'm a premium enthusiast gamer. I have a $180 keyboard, an $80 mouse, a $650 graphics card and an $800 monitor but even I think this is a tad excessive for just a bloody controller.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Yes.
https://scufgaming.com/shop/scufone/scuf-one-fps/
A basic Xbox One Scuf with trigger stops, four paddles and a disc d-pad runs ~$140 before tax and shipping. It's made out of a standard Xbox One controller, so no premium materials are used. You can't swap parts or reprogram any of the buttons/paddles/etc. The price goes way up if you start including premium grips/finishes/colors/etc.
$150 is a good deal for what MS os offering.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
For something that is vastly improved over original one and it's totally optional, yes I think it is. I spent a lot more on arcade sticks and didn't have problem with that either. This is not for everyone, it's optional, your system will work without it.
Oppo
Member
I don't have a problem with this, the same way I don't have a problem with super high price golf clubs or whatever. But for that price, it had better be the best goddamn controller ever made. Maybe it is? I prefer symmetrical sticks but if I see one on sale I would be tempted. gotta try it first.
ThatGuyAgain
Member
Something like that would have been enough to make your point...
It really is.
BleedOrange
Banned
Agreed. This is obviously a premium product, just like the countless premium keyboards, mice, joysticks, monitors, etc.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I spent the equivalent of $110 on my mouse without blinking an eye, and it was worth every single penny. If the quality of this controller is great, then it's not that bad a price. My mouse doesn't have an internal battery either, it runs off a USB cable.
It is expensive, but it's not unreasonable for the high end controller is proclaims to be.
Hellshingu
Member
I buy sticks for $200+ without any hesitation but $150 for this is making me want to wait it out for a sale or to see some reviews on it first. I don't know what's wrong with me.
hurricanes
Member
Why not use your PC?
Or some games or remakes, or Vita memory, or PS3 599. I can almost 100% assure you this controller markup is huge too. Especially compared some of the other examples that the market decides is too expensive.
BleedOrange
Banned
My $170 keyboard is just a controller as well. Why does it matter what the input mechanic is?
YES if its adding to justify the value. And it is. Like how these arguments are missing facts to reduce what is on offer.
And.yes, i bought the SteelBatllaion controller.
Shuggananas
Banned
have you seen titanfall ?
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
$150?!
Whew, too rich for my blood for a controller.
Whew, too rich for my blood for a controller.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Looks extremely nice! I think a standard XB1 controller will suit me for the time being, but I could see myself going in for one during an Amazon sale or something.
You must not be familiar with how big the market is for custom controllers.
Sir Abacus
Member
To be fair my keyboard has all manner of light pipes, multicolored LED lighting and mechanical switches while this controller doesn't even have colored paper for its XYBA arrangement.
Saying this is appropriately priced because custom controllers are expensive too is not a very good argument. The custom controllers are handmade to order by a third party that has to pay the full retail price of the original controller. Not to mention the fact that they're grossly overpriced as well.
Even back at launch when economy of scale hadn't kicked in, the Xbox 360 wireless controller only cost about $10 to manufacture. It was overpriced as well, but the margin was necessary to offset the large loss that they were taking on the console itself.
Assuming that none of their existing manufacturing chain was reusable and that somehow the new controller costs five times as much to manufacture, that's still a gigantic profit margin. It's not like the console itself isn't profitable now, either.
It's grossly overpriced and exploiting the market, plain and simple. The fact that they've put the remappable buttons behind an artificial software barrier really evidences that.
Even back at launch when economy of scale hadn't kicked in, the Xbox 360 wireless controller only cost about $10 to manufacture. It was overpriced as well, but the margin was necessary to offset the large loss that they were taking on the console itself.
Assuming that none of their existing manufacturing chain was reusable and that somehow the new controller costs five times as much to manufacture, that's still a gigantic profit margin. It's not like the console itself isn't profitable now, either.
It's grossly overpriced and exploiting the market, plain and simple. The fact that they've put the remappable buttons behind an artificial software barrier really evidences that.
$150 is a bit steep for me. I need a controller for my PC and would prefer a premium controller like this but if I get any extra money it's going to VR more than likely so I don't know if I could afford it at $100.
I am glad MS entered this market. Maybe we can get some price drops with more competition entering this space.
I am glad MS entered this market. Maybe we can get some price drops with more competition entering this space.
Just curious: is there anybody who is pretty sure that they'll be buying this, but not at all for FPS games? I'm not asking that sarcastically or saying there isn't, but rather as a genuine question. I've always been curious as to how big the market is for this type of thing outside of the FPS world. I'm more curious about how much people care for the paddles and hair trigger/trigger stops outside of the FPS world.
I have a Scuf on the 360 and can't imagine playing an FPS without it honestly. I haven't played any FPS games on the One yet so haven't had to consider getting a Scuf type controller for it, but I might have to consider this. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can get by with literally just the paddles and would be fine just getting an entry level Scuf though.
I have a Scuf on the 360 and can't imagine playing an FPS without it honestly. I haven't played any FPS games on the One yet so haven't had to consider getting a Scuf type controller for it, but I might have to consider this. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can get by with literally just the paddles and would be fine just getting an entry level Scuf though.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
Pricy as hell, but it seems pretty damn nice.
Pretty darn premium.
How do you use controllers without a power source? Sticking with wired or something?
Pretty darn premium.
How do you use controllers without a power source? Sticking with wired or something?
100 would be better if their intention was to mass sell this, but it doesn't seem that way, this is no different than a Driving wheel or a JOystick or a Premium Headset, they arent sold on great quantities, and for the casual/non-enthusiast will look too expensive.
But Based on those who do get these premium gear is priced accordingly.
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JoJo UK
Unconfirmed Member
Look fantastic, as I previous said I'm a bit short on cash due to newborn and buying a house, any chance you would go for...
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Yeah, 150€ is too much for me. Would have considered it, if it was like 80-90€ and it came with a rechargable battery or if there was a real wired solution. I have already thrown away like 3 USB cables, because the Micro USB port is just shit.
Guess I will have to go with the new standard one, with the improved Bumpers, for now.
Guess I will have to go with the new standard one, with the improved Bumpers, for now.
HalfwayOrb
Member
150 bucks? Fuck me.
There is your answer. Scuf buy the controllers, they pay a markup to MS, they custom build the controllers meaning somebody sits there and mods the controllers for a living, they don't mass produce them. Objectively no you cannot say the Elite isn't overpriced because it likely has a big markup value too.
It's really the same proposition as the money you spent on a keyboard and mouse. Particularly the keyboard; almost entirely the same functionality as even the cheapest product in the same category, with the difference being in the material and construction quality.
It is priced appropriately because there are a bunch of people who will buy it at this price. Now, whether it is a fair price that shows respect for the end user...
I'm gonna laugh when the cnd price is revealed.
I honestly can't see how it's anything other than this. I doubt the retail price is justified by manufacturing/R&D costs. At the same time this is business, and if there's a demand and people are willing to pay then I suppose that alone justifies the price.