I think people are being a bit too binary re Gears 4. It's not a blockbuster series anymore and it's not a massive critical success (I haven't seen it in any GOTY top 10s) but it's still a very good game that seems to have sold decently and will continue to sell decently at a lower price point for some time.
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Xbox Closes a Milestone Year in 2016 with an Exceptional Year Ahead for Gamers
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digoutyoursoul
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I liked the first three, bought them day one but I didn't feel the urge to play another. It was on offer during the Christmas sale at a decent price digitally but still wasn't tempted.
Building out the tournament/arena feature to more games. It's super limited right now but it's pretty cool. Beam integration is coming as well which should actually add some really cool features for people who like to stream.
They are helping current gen console sales far more than exclusives.
SprachBrooks
Member
Hardly because of the Pro itself though. It was just a bad conference, lacked direction and was very dry. They tried to sell the Pro whilst at the same time downplaying it, which caused great confusion.
Whet?
Xbox Scorpio = New Xbox console that shares the same games as Xbox One but it is more powerful and it can power VR solutions.
You are confused? How?
I couldn't get into this one. It had too much of 3 in it.
Yeah I think tournaments and bean are the next bigger thing. Hopefully that leads to something like 1 vs 100 reborn
If you liked the first three you should give it a go. It's the second best game in the series IMO, it's very good.
Madden with Arena will be awesome. I still think MS will come out with a new Kinect for Streamers (shit, it may have the Beam branding).
And? The market is different from what is was 10 or 15 years ago where you saw tons of platform exclusives. Multiplatform 3rd party releases make far more sense and make far more money than first party titles or 3rd party exclusives and their quality has increased dramatically.
hanspampel
Banned
as powerhouse seller, the biggest ips and top reason to buy a console / into a platform?
yes!
ofc not dead as not existent at all anymore. thought that is obvious...
But Gears 3 is the best!
digoutyoursoul
Member
Didn't Naughy Dog just release some good numbers for Uncharted 4?
digoutyoursoul
Member
I have watched friends play a bit and honestly it didn't do much for me, I was a fan last gen but I'm done. The sequel factory thing isn't for me.
SneakersSO
Member
Yup, nearing 10 million. To be fair, UC4 was a part of the main/only bundle Sony pushed in Q4 in NA. Then again, its not like Gears 4, Gears UE, Halo MCC, Halo 5, SSOD, and Forza haven't received their respective bundles either.
Doesn't really make sense considering fans will want Scorpio either way. Removing Xbox One branding from the Scorpio outside of mentioning game/accessory compatibility just simply makes far more business sense based on their current position.
The system will be part of the Xbox One family regardless of how they market the device simply because the Xbox One will still be the base for Scorpio. The same games will release and work on both platforms. Marketing/pushing the Scorpio as if it were a new console via big ads, and major conferences and launch events would give it more attention and help people view the console as a better buy vs. the competition. The possible positives of doing this far outweigh the possible positives of them not doing it. It would honestly be silly for Microsoft not to in my opinion.
Mass Effect
Member
Scalebound needs to release in the summer. It's the perfect time. No big blockbusters crowding it out, plus it feels like a summer game (to me anyway).
Because there was some confusing PR when it was first announced.
They've cleared it up since (repeatedly), but if you haven't been following Scorpio news, then it's possible to still be confused. And plus the whole thing about people saying "it's a new generation" and talks of whether to remove the Xbox One name (on GAF at least). Yeah, I can see why people are confused sometimes.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I wish SSOD had done better, I love that game
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
VR requires additional hardware, how does that fit in? Is it subsidized? Can I get any use from legacy peripherals like Kinect?
VR requires software, where's the launch line-up?
Is this the only software content unique to Scorpio? If it is, is that really such a good thing given the larger performance delta between stock Xbone and Scorpio compared to PS4/Pro?
How much more is this super Xbox going to cost compared to the slim? And when can I get my hands on it?
How am I, the consumer, supposed to determine the desirability of the product without knowing price-point,availability, and unique software line-up?
It seems to me, I actually don't know a damn thing apart from its going to be "super powerful".
SneakersSO
Member
Except face potential consumer backlash from people who just bought into the X1S in larger than ever before numbers? Clearly there is more goodwill in the X1 name then even Xbox fans give credit. And all we are talking about here is removing the 'One' moniker, nothing more - it'll still face the same market realities it would if it were a new console platform, which I highly doubt MS will do anyway.
Xbox fans iterating the X1 & Scorpio are two different platforms, when they not only aren't, but nothing from MS suggests that they are, is whats most baffling here. MS isn't going to treat Scorpio as its own platform - they're gonna lump Scorpio sales in with X1 & X1S because its another X1.
there are even people who think the Xbox One S IS scorpio
tiredheadcrab
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Whatever console comes after Scorpio will be a beefed up Scorpio. Whatever comes after Scorpio 2 will be a beefed up Scorpio 2. There won't be a major platform change because we aren't seeing big diminishing returns like we used to. My guess is they will be pushing 2 consoles at any given time now starting this holiday. One will be more powerful and the other cheaper and less powerful. Scorpio will be their next big premium Xbox. They will probably be hyping this up similar to the way they launch new hardware. It's the next big thing in Xbox. Kind of like how apple will continue to sell iPhone 6s but the 7 is really were you want to be.
I'd say definitely before the end of the year.
Lol perfect
going out on a limb there
I still think a 4K (Even a 1440p or 1620p version) Halo 3 Anniversary campaign and utilizing the Halo 5 engine for multiplayer remakes of popular maps as a launch title would help Scorpio sell a shit ton but Frankie said no plans. Here is hoping they have some stuff lined up. Xbox One was underpowered from day one. I hope Scorpio isn't held back because of it either.
Sony hadn't already announced the Pro though. The event was to communicate the Pro to the media and fans. They just did a shitty job of it. MS already revealed, and communicated the Scorpio to the public, therefore, another event is not needed. Now, all they have to do is talk aesthetics, price, and release date.
hanspampel
Banned
yes they did and those numbers are not bad at all. just not what they were used to be
last gen you got 10/15m seller exclusives with attachrates of 30%+
we don't have that on Playstation or Xbox anymore
1/ ultimate edition for life brah.
sixteen-bit
Member
This strikes me as a particularly meaningless statistic
Kneel before MAU.
Depends if they mean created or created and sold. If it's the latter, that's a good thing to add. Basically they will keep doing these controller things or maybe up it to custom consoles
What makes you say that? We just saw it at e3 which is more than can be said for crackdown etc.
I think they're treating Scorpio launch like a new gen. Crackdown scalebound sea of thieves state of decay 2 forza 7 and some others (ori 2?) As a launch lineup
It's had bad showings every time it's been shown, and they barely make a peep about it otherwise other than a delay.
I sincerely doubt Crackdown 3 makes 2017 as well
Could be that they want to show that the program was successful.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
That embarrassing moment when you can only confirm one first party title for the coming year.
Someone working on the game already said it's a holiday 2017 game a few weeks ago. I doubt much has changed since.
I definitely believe that person believes its a holiday 2017 game
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
No, they're treating it like PS4 Pro - native 4K versions of games you've already played. Quote me in six months.
while I mostly agree with you in the general premise of the Scorpio, I do think Microsoft will have a better "launch" (for lack of a better word) line up for the Scorpio than the PS4 Pro considering how much lead time they have
I think it's mostly because it's coming out soon. I wouldn't read too much into it.
I've played crackdown 3?
But I don't see what your post has to do with mine. Unless you think Scorpio isn't gonna have any launch titles at all?
So why answer it at all then? He was kinda pressured into answering it and rubbed it off at first before saying holiday 2017.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
Honestly, I'd keep expectations in check.
Since they didn't put "sold" and only put "created" I think that's you're answer on which it is.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Scorpio reveal in a few months! Nice!!!
DriftingSpirit
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FH3 performed well. So, kudos for the good performance.