Except this is completely untrue. I had a XBL Gold membership for all of 6 months during this entire console cycle.
Why would i get PS+ next gen if i don't want to play multiplayer?
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Xbox Ones Game DVR, SmartMatch, NFL, TV Guide Restricted To Xbox Live Gold Members
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Except this is completely untrue. I had a XBL Gold membership for all of 6 months during this entire console cycle.
Why would i get PS+ next gen if i don't want to play multiplayer?
Whiteshirt
Member
Its called having principles and not being short sighted. No other platform charges for features that are literally free on every other platform like Netflix or Youtube.
The more willing you are to fund such behaviour, the more willing companies are to implement such policies. Such policies, even if they don't impact you, have no reason to exist.
Discounts, free games. PS+, as of now, actually offers value.
Canis lupus
Member
PS4: party chat, f2p games, mmos, netflix and other apps... all free
Xbone: even offline features behind paywall
Offline apps... are you kidding me?
Xbone: even offline features behind paywall
Offline apps... are you kidding me?
Considering multiple people have already said no, no they won't....so fail?
Pic of new head of Xbox division.
I've actually been hearing "I love gooooold" in my mind every time I see "gold member" throughout this thread from the get go. LOL.
PS4: party chat, f2p games, mmos, netflix and other apps... all free
Xbone: even offline features behind paywall
Offline apps... are you kidding me?
Which offline things are you talking about? Game DVR? Because if you are, it's not offline. Clips aren't saved onto the console, they are stored server side.
And you know this how? They haven't stated whether they can be saved on the drive or not. But it is a process that's happening offline, and taking up system resources at all times during gameplay no less.
and this:
I am surprised by the amount of people who finds that MS charging for free services acceptable. Oh well, it is their money to give. However, it just set a bad trend not just for MS, but the whole industry. Just like DLCs, it can get ridiculous like disc locked content. Now it is inching towards hardware functionality locked by the power of the cloud. Give MS an inch each time and they will eventually take a whole mile. Maybe it is already too late?
Why would they?
Canis lupus
Member
Wut, I can't capture gameplay when I'm offline, why are they not stored on the console? TV Guide is an offline feature.
You are buying into their narrative, they could easily be saved offline, but that feature isn't available to non-subscribers.
CambriaRising
Member
Says who?
No way they are going to be constantly uploading online, that would kill everyone's bandwidth.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
Clips are saved into console, but MS is not allowing them to be accessed directly by users. Changing one 0 into 1 in OS registry could allow both local and online storing, but no, they want to be "progressive" and "magical".
Chobel
Member
WTF??! Is this confirmed?
Are you on the dev team? Didn't think so - pretty bold of you to say things like that then...
I haven't had Gold in years. Now, what you're saying about XB1 is probably true, since we now know that if you want to get even an inkling of the features the console offers, you'll have to have it. However, I guarantee you not everybody is going to have PS+. Not everybody likes online multiplayer, and you can still do just about everything else without Plus.
My thoughts exactly.
Give a layman some credit. Local HD should be easier than constantly uploading.
It is - it was just a joke in reference to MN :-D
googleplex
Member
Anyone buying a Xbone at this point has to know Microsoft are going to nickel and Dime the fuck out of their wallets. How can anyone be shocked at this news? It's been Microsoft's MO throughout this entire generation.
its HDD.
Btw, there has to be local cashing, Xbone afterall, does not demands constant Internet connection.
flipswitch
Member
Will MS accept real gold? Like if I would dangle my gold watch in front of the Kinect sensor, Kinect then scans it and gets its value then converts its worth into months of gold. I then pop it in the console tray for MS to keep.
Opps...completely missed the joke.
its HDD.
Btw, there has to be local cashing, Xbone afterall, does not demands constant Internet connection.
it's caching
Reality does not work that way.
it's caching
Damn you.
[its alright, English is not my native lang]Game DVR: A dedicated Game DVR captures and accesses your magic moments, all saved to the cloud. Along with editing and sharing tools, you will have amazing bragging rights with Xbox Live.
That is as of May 21st so this has probably (I hope) changed.
That is as of May 21st so this has probably (I hope) changed.
Are they trying to say that game dvr WILL NOT WORK without internet connection? Because if this is true, that's the most stupidest thing they have on console [and they have A LOT of stupid things on it].
I don't know about a guarantee. I was just watching the blacklight retribution livestream and the devs didn't find out about ps+ not being required for their game until sony announced it at e3. You would think they would know about it if sony had made a deal with them for getting a cut of the microtransactions.
They did mention that they might give a little something extra to ps+ members though, and they're in talks with sony about that, but nothing game changing like different guns or something. Something along the lines of camos for guns and what not.
That's where I'm confused. I'm not saying its a good thing but that's the way I'm interpreting the comment.
Dont forget electricity, gas, water.
If you play consoles for a day, you need electricity to power them. You're going to need to eat every few hours. You'll need to use the toilet and wash your hands.
It might be a cold day so the heater needs to be on. If you have kids, then you'll need to pay a sitter to watch them while you game.
Man we have an expensive hobby.
boredandlazy
Member
its HDD.
Btw, there has to be local cashing, Xbone afterall, does not demands constant Internet connection.
Freudian slip?
NullPointer
Member
Cached locally until you edit a clip and share it, whereupon its transferred to the cloud at that point so it has a home online for others to stream/download/view from.
Otherwise they're using alien technology.
The clips may be stored on the cloud long term but whilst recording they will be saved to HDD and then edited and then uploaded. Your not going to be uploading your gameplay to the cloud constantly and if you did it would be more than 5 minutes wouldn't it?
uploading all gaming to the cloud...Ain't nobody got bandwidth fo' that!
uploading all gaming to the cloud...Ain't nobody got bandwidth fo' that!
They won't give you access to the tools to cut it though if you're not going to be uploading it. At that point it's taking space on the HD without being able to access it if you can even make a video without Gold.
Chobel
Member
can we access those clips (cached) without XBLG?
There's no way that the DVR doesn't start locally. There's no way people want to play and record multiplayer match and have 720p/30fps plus sound worth of bandwidth on their already pathetic upstream capacity while they are trying to frag people.
Recording locally then uploading to the cloud is the only way that makes sense.
Recording locally then uploading to the cloud is the only way that makes sense.
statham
Member
I already pay for live with my 360, that extends well into XB1, I get all this with my account.
statham
Member
from what I understand, it stores in the magic word 'cloud'
Right. I have 5 years left on my current Gold membership after getting a bunch of leftover 3 free months cards from a holiday bundle pack we made a few years ago.
To me, all the paywall stuff is a non-issue. I can see why people would be upset though.
It stores in the cloud but it starts in your HDD. Are you going to devote 720p worth of your upload bandwidth to record videos while you play? What happens when your connection has issues, does it automatically choke down your image quality to compensate?
The answer is no. It records locally and then gets uploaded to the cloud. It does not record in the cloud to start.
Quadraphonic
Member
That is the whole point of this thread.
Kelegacy
XBOX - RECORD ME LOVING DOWN MY WOMAN GOOD
I guess $500 wasn't enough. I hate that you just cant buy a system anymore and get access to the bulletpoints on the back of the box. I knew the multiplayer would be behind a paywall yet again ( giving you half a system essentially for your console purchase if you don't subscribe) but the core new features like dvr? What assholes.
So what the heck are we buying anyway? Its an awfully expensive console for something that requires a further subscription to use many of its features.
Its almost like a sick joke. Just another example of why I hated Microsoft getting involved with console gaming.
So what the heck are we buying anyway? Its an awfully expensive console for something that requires a further subscription to use many of its features.
Its almost like a sick joke. Just another example of why I hated Microsoft getting involved with console gaming.
statham
Member
My cable is fine with upload/download. I regularly play games on my PC, while my son/wife watchs netflix.
I imagine F2P games will utilise the PSN equivalent of Steam's Wallet feature.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Doesn't it store the gameplay in the cloud?