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Xbox One price cut to £399 in the UK, includes free copy of Titanfall

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longdi

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#game-changer...

MS has UK and NA locked down imo...although i would have preferred they just made the One as powerful as possible and stayed at ₤429/US$499, going for the kill instead of being reactive since they will lose money anyhow. This move leaves things dangling, you still will have games being held back by a weaker console, but the increased sales means more bargaining power to undercut PS4 development.

bad times, sad times.
 
Decent move, though they should offer TitanFall as a free/discounted download to all of the current owners in the UK who bought in at £430. Seems shitty to cut the price so early for the people who supported them the most.

Also, even after this the ASP for the XB1 in the UK will be $540, so it's still more expensive than in the US.
 

T.O.P

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The Titanfall controller can already be bought in German stores.

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Is it already out in the US?

Got mine on Friday (EU) and i think is available for NA too at this point, it's really sick :D
 
When they price-slashed the original XBox, they offered free games to early adopters.

Two free games and a controller. I really hope they do something for day one purchasers...even if it's only some XBL credit or a free download from the store.

Anyway,

GC: This price cut is very welcome but surely it’s an admission that the Xbox One is currently not selling as well as you’d hoped?

HE: No, I don’t think so. For us this is about giving UK gamers the best value that we can. We think that that starts with the announcement of this new price point, at 399. It continues with the inclusion of the hottest game of this new generation, in Titanfall, which is now included in the box at no additional cost.

And I would also say that this has been our most successful Xbox launch ever in the UK. I think that we can already see that both platforms are commercially successful, that’s great for the industry, but we’re only a few months into a generation that is going to last for many years to come.

GC: No one would suggest the Xbox One has been a flop, it’s no Wii U, but when a console is very successful it’s usually sold out for months and doesn’t get a price cut until years later. Clearly, that’s not the situation the Xbox One is in, but why do you think that is?

HE: I just go back to my earlier point, that we just want to give the best value that we can, and with the arrival of Titanfall on March the 14th we feel now is a great time to adjust the price point, get it to 399, include Titanfall while stocks last…

GC: Do you have any idea how long stocks will last? I assume there’s a finite number you know you’ve got to give away?

HE: Yes, it’s a promotion that is while stocks last. What I would say is the people that want to take up this offer, I would strongly encourage them to pre-order as of today at participating retailers. But to give you a sense of order of magnitude, this is similar to what we did with the Day One consoles – which you’ll remember came with either FIFA 14 or Forza. So expect similar volumes as that promotion.

GC: The fact that the price cut is only for the UK is interesting, as it suggests understandable concern that the Xbox’s second biggest market has turned towards the PlayStation. Can you confirm that current hardware sales are 2:1 in Sony’s favour?

HE: Well, you know we don’t comment on UK sales figures, specifically. We don’t break those down…

GC: Not figures, no. But can you confirm that ratio, which seems evident even in software sales?

HE: Again, for us this has been our most successful launch ever. When I looked towards what I said we would achieve internally at this point in time we’re bang on track. I think 399 for an Xbox One, with the inclusion of Titanfall, plus of course Kinect, I think is a great deal for UK gamers.

GC: I’d suggest that some of the Xbox One’s problems still relate back to the disastrous launch, and also the strangely aggressive attitude of most American Microsoft execs since then. They always seem adamant not to admit any fault or to even acknowledge the various U-turns. Has that been an issue, do you think?

HE: You’ve spoken to me before David, and you know I’ve tried to always be straight with you. I think the last chat we had, I think we said we were not happy about the decisions made on things like trading games and always-on, etc. and those have been reversed. I’ve always tried to give you an honest comment on issues…

GC: You have, but that only emphasises the difference between the UK side of things and the American execs.

HE: And I think the announcements we’re making today are another step in the right direction for gamers in the UK. It’s also a good time to remind people that four months in you can trade discs on Xbox One, you can bring in any of your games and you can use the proceeds to buy a copy a copy of Titanfall.

GC: Well, quite! I’m curious, did you ask for the price cut or is that something America came to you with?

HE: It doesn’t really work like that, but we look at it and ask, ‘How can we offer the best value in this country?’ I’m responsible for the UK so I look at the UK and say, ‘How do we get the best value into the market for our fans?’ And we just feel now is the right time to make the adjustment on the price point. With Titanfall coming it just seems like the perfect time to do that.

GC: Do you feel there’s enough autonomy between you and the other worldwide divisions? I can certainly think of numerous situations where Nintendo and Sony have forced decisions on the UK and Europe that local execs clearly knew was a bad idea. And I realise you have to be diplomatic in answering that…

HE: [laughs] I think there are examples in other areas where you can see, let me say the influence of the UK, in some of the worldwide actions that we take. If you just look at the advertising campaign that we ran, which featured Stevie Gerrard, that’s clearly the influence of the UK. That was a worldwide spot that ran everywhere in the world, including the US.

I know that’s not necessarily the example you’re after but I think it’s a demonstration that says the UK has an important voice as the second biggest market in the world and I think there are examples of where we have this degree of autonomy that you refer to. I think the announcements today are another example of that.

GC: But another problem with Xbox appearing to be US-orientated is the TV and media content, which is still extremely lacking in the UK. Can you see that this will be addressed this year, or this half of the year?

HE: We’re still committed to the entertainment vision that we outlined, I’d say it’s an evolving one – again being honest with you. I think, look at what we’ve done with Xbox 360 and how that’s changed over time. I think you can expect the same with Xbox One. We know there are important partners missing, we know the BBC’s not there, we know Sky’s not yet there. I can’t give you a precise date today. I wish I could. But what I can tell you is that we’re working very hard with those companies to bring them to the Xbox One platform as soon as we can.

GC: Will there ever be a UK or European equivalent to the NFL deal? That cost $400 million and yet it’s almost meaningless outside of the US. You could get a lot of first party games financed for that amount of money…

HE: Nothing that I can share with you today.

GC: I don’t expect you to announce anything, but is there something of that magnitude that you know is being planned in the future?

HE: We’re looking at ways to bring great entertainment experiences, great sports experiences, and great gaming experiences to the UK as soon as we possibly can.

GC: Details of this price cut leaked earlier today on ShopTo, although no-one realised it was a permanent price cut, and I noticed immediately many people were saying, ‘Well, it’s good but I’ll still wait until they take out Kinect’. How much of a problem is that attitude to what you’re trying to achieve?

HE: We said all along that we believe that Kinect is an absolutely integral part of the Xbox One experience and that remains the case.

GC: But it’s not though is it? In terms of core games that are out now, or have been announced it’s a periphery feature at most.

HE: Let me give you an example, we’ve seen thousands and thousands of gamer clips uploaded to our Upload Studio by the community. And the way those gameplay clips are captured, for the most part, is when someone speaks to the screen and says ‘Xbox record that’. That phrase has already become a part of Xbox vocabulary, part of gamer’s vocabulary. And I think it’s a great example of how Kinect makes the Xbox One experience even better.

GC: Do you feel Titanfall is literally the biggest game of the year? It doesn’t seem likely that Halo 5 is going to be out this year, so will Titanfall still be the biggest Xbox One exclusive by the time we get to Christmas?

HE: I think Titanfall is going to be a huge game, there’s no doubt about that. Usually a new console is really characterised by the launch of a new game, we saw it on the original Xbox when Halo first came out, we saw it with Xbox 360 when the Call Of Duty franchise really came to the fore with the second game, and I think Titanfall will be that type of game for the Xbox One.

It’s one of those very rare breed of games that people will buy a console in order to play it. We think it’s going to be huge, I think it has tremendous longevity because it’s a multiplayer game. I can’t predict what’s going to be the number one seller at Christmas this early out, but Titanfall is going to be big no doubt about it.

GC: Is there something else you know about, perhaps a first party title, that you know Microsoft are going to be pushing as their big Christmas title, instead of Titanfall?

HE: There’s a number of games that we’ve already announced that are Microsoft-developed games that we’re excited about. We do have Kinect Sports Rivals, which will be a great demonstration of Kinect technology, we’ve got games like Project Spark which we’ve announced, we’ve got Sunset Overdrive… There are a number of first party games coming.

But I think the three hottest games of the year are Titanfall, Watch Dogs, and Destiny. And you will be able to play all three on an Xbox One, and I think they’re the three most anticipated games at this moment in time.

GC: And just quickly, is Xbox planning a big presence at GDC [Game Developers Conference] in March? I know Sony are rumoured to have some big announcements there.

HE: We’re more focused on E3, from an Xbox One point of view.

GC: That’s very interesting, thanks for your time

HE: No problem, it’s a pleasure.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/24/xbox-one-price-cut-to-399-99-with-free-copy-of-titanfall-4316270/
 

Jburton

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#game-changer...

MS has UK and NA locked down imo...although i would have preferred they just made the One as powerful as possible and stayed at ₤429/US$499, going for the kill instead of being reactive since they will lose money anyhow. This move leaves things dangling, you still will have games being held back by a weaker console, but the increased sales means more bargaining power to undercut PS4 development.

bad times, sad times.


Really? ...... Locked down?
 
Getting a bit desperate I see. It'll be interesting to see if the bump continues after Titanfall launches. Sony still have a £50 price advantage in the UK and I can't imagine the Titanfall bundles will last forever.

Should make for a fascinating March/April though.
 

madmackem

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#game-changer...

MS has UK and NA locked down imo...although i would have preferred they just made the One as powerful as possible and stayed at ₤429/US$499, going for the kill instead of being reactive since they will lose money anyhow. This move leaves things dangling, you still will have games being held back by a weaker console, but the increased sales means more bargaining power to undercut PS4 development.

bad times, sad times.

The xbox one is lagging behind ps4 in the uk, this step had to be taken to combat that, let's not go crazy this was a move forced by them being beaten pretty badly in a country that favoured the 360.
 

N.Domixis

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#game-changer...

MS has UK and NA locked down imo...although i would have preferred they just made the One as powerful as possible and stayed at ₤429/US$499, going for the kill instead of being reactive since they will lose money anyhow. This move leaves things dangling, you still will have games being held back by a weaker console, but the increased sales means more bargaining power to undercut PS4 development.

bad times, sad times.
Lol, uk is sonys this gen. US will be 1:1
 

Guymelef

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GC: The fact that the price cut is only for the UK is interesting, as it suggests understandable concern that the Xbox’s second biggest market has turned towards the PlayStation. Can you confirm that current hardware sales are 2:1 in Sony’s favour?

HE: Well, you know we don’t comment on UK sales figures, specifically. We don’t break those down…

So we won't hear about sales after the bundle release, right?
Sure...
 

oldnick

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Anything for other EU countries ?
Aren't France and Germany dangerously falling into 'Sony-conquered' territory status ?
I'l like a French price drop...
 
MS cared about as much back then as they do now. They were just better at lying to you and saying all the nice, right things to get on your good side back then. Just like Sony this generation really.

That doesn't matter, they were better than and if they were lying then I'd rather they continue to lie now but offer that same level of care.

Of course it's obvious that all companies want is your money. Sony, MS, Nintendo, they're not friends, they are corporations who want to sell you a product; however, the way they go about it says a lot. It doesn't matter if it's lies, so long as we get good treatment and value, something MS failed to do

And I just have to chuckle at people still thinking this is some huge game changer. It'll no doubt help for a while but the expectations for Titanfall are absolutely absurd
 
TBH even if it was £199, who would actually want it apart from being a second console?

It's not going to be more powerful than Sony and doesn't have the first party games to even differentiate themselves like Nintendo.

Sony can afford to keep the £350 price for a good while!
 

longdi

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Really? ...... Locked down?

Yes at least from Mar onwards until Sony has Destiny, or some other popular shooter, or have secured GTA4 ..i don't know, just not seeing inFamous doing much.

Titanfall will be big, 'cause MS will make sure it is.
Sony dropped the ball? Who knows, M$ is so rich and they have plants like Peta' the DreamCastbox Moore working inside EA.
 

Chobel

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MS cared about as much back then as they do now. They were just better at lying to you and saying all the nice, right things to get on your good side back then. Just like Sony this generation really.

So why are not offering anything for early adopters?

and Sony too™, really?
 

Honey Bunny

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I hope you guys get to see EU HW numbers soon. They sure as hell won't be giving them out and they're only going to report shipped numbers from now on so total sold - NPD sold will be a bit misleading. I suppose we have to wait for those Nintendo charts?
 

N.Domixis

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Wait, is ms not confident in Titanfall pushing systems on its own? Why bundle it for free with a pricecut if its supposed to be a system seller on its own.
 
Good shit MS. Just like last gen when Sony cut their price nice and fast.. MS too has to do this if they want to compete in the sales game it looks like.

Mmmmm dat TitanFall!

Wait, is ms not confident in Titanfall pushing systems on its own? Why bundle it for free with a pricecut if its supposed to be a system seller on its own.
Oh brother... ya.. that's exactly what's happening. MS has no confidence in TitanFall to make people buy an X1.

Ya right.
 

Miles X

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TBH even if it was £199, who would actually want it apart from being a second console?

It's not going to be more powerful than Sony and doesn't have the first party games to even differentiate themselves like Nintendo.

Sony can afford to keep the £350 price for a good while!

Judging by the fact 360k vs 530k bought an XB1 over PS4 despite £80 more expensive and less powerful, a lot of people. Seriously, if it was cut to £199 it would slay PS4, don't kid yourself.
 

gtj1092

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Isn't their a dichotomy between hyperbolic praising of the greatness and system selling power of titanfall and simultaneously dropping the price of your console and giving the game away for free.

I guess what I'm saying if titanfall is the game to end all games then people will run out to buy it and xones at full price.
 

N.Domixis

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Good shit MS. Just like last gen when Sony cut their price nice and fast.. MS too has to do this if they want to compete in the sales game it looks like.

Mmmmm dat TitanFall!


Oh brother... ya.. that's exactly what's happening. MS has no confidence in TitanFall to make people buy an X1.

Ya right.

If they were confident in TITANFAll boosting sells they would not have made a price cut. Stop deluding yourself.
 

Noema

Member
In typical Microsoft fashion, they react quickly.

This is the type of move Nintendo should have been making with Wii U a year ago.

Will be interesting to see how many consoles this moves though.

To be fair the Xbox is such a small percentage of MS's revenue they can afford to be more aggressive with price cuts.

Plus Nintendo actually needs to make a profit on hardware sales since thy have basically no 3rd party support and get no money from licencing. MS on the other hand can afford selling the hardware at a loss to drive sales, boost their platform and make a profit from 3rd party licencing fees.
 

Sami+

Member
That was a hell of a lot faster than I expected. My guess was a $399 SKU for Christmas being the first real drop.
 

Vol5

Member
Two free games and a controller. I really hope they do something for day one purchasers...even if it's only some XBL credit or a free download from the store.

Anyway,

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/24/xbox-one-price-cut-to-399-99-with-free-copy-of-titanfall-4316270/

That interviewer doesn't pull any punches. To be fair the guy has to tow the company line, but I'm fairly certain when he's at home and looking in the mirror he's shaking his head thinking Kinect is the biggest POS ever and is a good reason why people aren't buying XBOne (in the UK)
 

Darksol

Member
Yes at least from Mar onwards until Sony has Destiny, or some other popular shooter, or have secured GTA4 ..i don't know, just not seeing inFamous doing much.

Titanfall will be big, 'cause MS will make sure it is.
Sony dropped the ball? Who knows, M$ is so rich and they have plants like Peta' the DreamCastbox Moore working inside EA.

inFamous
Driveclub
Watch_Dogs ( not much, but it should lean in favour of PS4 more than XB1 a little bit )
MLB The Show

Sony doesn't have a single heavy artillery comparable to Titanfall, but I'd say it's got a range of titles that will support the console till then.

Besides, for better or worse, I'd say that Titanfall's singularity has sucked out so much air in the room from other Xbox upcoming games like Garden Warfare and Kinect Sports that I'm kinda worried for said game's traction.
 

GoaThief

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If they were confident in TITANFAll boosting sells they would not have made a price cut. Stop deluding yourself.
I believe the Xbone was well overpriced in the UK out of the gate (as in coming in at the equivalent of $700 or something ridiculous like that), the combination of both is a pretty astute move. I don't believe it means MS are concerned about it as a system seller at all, quite the opposite in fact.
 

SPDIF

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So why are not offering anything for early adopters?

and Sony too™, really?

I would have thought that me saying "They were just better at lying to you and saying all the nice, right things to get on your good side back then" would have explained that. I'll change it to this: "They were just better at lying to you and saying (and doing) all the nice, right things to get on your good side back then". Also keep in mind the important part: "They were just better at". It doesn't really mean they cared more.

As for the Sony too™ thing, I don't really know what your point is. Are you trying to say that Sony aren't very good at saying and doing all the right things to get gamers to like them?
 

1979

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TBH even if it was £199, who would actually want it apart from being a second console?

It's not going to be more powerful than Sony and doesn't have the first party games to even differentiate themselves like Nintendo.

Sony can afford to keep the £350 price for a good while!

The PS2 wasn't the most powerful console in the GC/Xbox era either but it managed to have a fantastic diverse range of titles and exclusives.

This is the generation where utter garbage like Knack outsold the new Super Mario 3D World so I'm not sure MS are very worried about Nintendo either.
 

Busty

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#game-changer...

MS has UK and NA locked down imo...although i would have preferred they just made the One as powerful as possible and stayed at ₤429/US$499, going for the kill instead of being reactive since they will lose money anyhow. This move leaves things dangling, you still will have games being held back by a weaker console, but the increased sales means more bargaining power to undercut PS4 development.

bad times, sad times.

Your definition of locked down is clearly very different from everyone else's.
 
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