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Katana_Strikes · Nov 14, 2014

Omotesando said:
I am surprised Sunset Overdrive didn't catch on with the general public. Open world games tend to do well, even if they suck. Maybe the aesthetics are what is turning people away.

A colourful, cartoony looking game that has Jet Set Radio/Ratchet vibes was never going to set the world on fire despite whatever quality the title has or if it's open world (which most won't even be aware of, like the game itself).

quetz67 · Nov 14, 2014

iceatcs said:
Me too, because everyone feel that Xbox one should win Nov. Will be meltdown if they lost.

I do not begrudge them winning November and December. So they can feel like they are flying for two month until the impact in January tells them they were actually still falling.

AmaterasuOni · Nov 14, 2014

Katana_Strikes said:
A colourful, cartoony looking game that has Jet Set Radio/Ratchet vibes was never going to set the world on fire despite whatever quality the title has or if it's open world (which most won't even be aware of, like the game itself).

Also when I tested the demo at a launch party, the game grew old really fast. You just did the same shooting over and over again. All the jokes were quite abysmal as well. It's a pretty game and I guess it's made for quite young players judging from that art direction, jokes and the overall gameplay. It was kinda doomed to flop since the beginning. Nice niche game for people who likes to shoot things with different things and enjoy that kind of juvenile comedy.

Final Verdict · Nov 14, 2014

MrNyarlathotep said:
Because of Halo MCC or because of desperation price cuts?
Because honestly, I don't think either of those factors are particularly compelling, and certainly not enough to make it a lock.

Yeah, I wouldn't say its a lock either because of BF, but it has clearly been outselling the PS4 so far...

For BF you looking at:
PS4 + TLOU + GTA = $400
XB1 + ACU + ACBF = $330
(most places)

Here is what some of the retailer specific deals look like:

XB1 + ACU + ACBF + Kinect + 2nd controler = $430 (Best Buy)
XB1 + ACU + ACBF + $50GC = $330 (Target)
PS4 + Lego + LBP3 = $400 (Toys R Us)
XB1 + MCC + $30GC = $330 (Walmart)
XB1 + Kinect = $330 ( Toys R Us)
PS4 + TLOU + GTA + 2 Games = $450 (Walmart Online)
X1 + MCC + Game + 12M Live = $380 (Walmart Online)
PS4 + $50 GC (Walmart)

As you can see, X1 has more special deals planned.
It could be that MS did a lot of planning to work these out, but it is also very possible that the stores are doing this to move inventory.

KooopaKid · Nov 14, 2014

AmaterasuOni said:
Also when I tested the demo at a launch party, the game grew old really fast. You just did the same shooting over and over again. All the jokes were quite abysmal as well. It's a pretty game and I guess it's made for quite young players judging from that art direction, jokes and the overall gameplay. It was kinda doomed to flop since the beginning. Nice niche game for people who likes to shoot things with different things and enjoy that kind of juvenile comedy.

Plus even something more serious like Infamous didn't light the charts on fire. This style of game design doesn't attract a lot of people.

spekkeh · Nov 14, 2014

StrongBlackVine said:
So Microsoft doesn't have more marketing power now? Why hasn't theirs been working?

Theirs never works. Zune, Surface, Nokia; Microsoft is tragically uncool. Luckily they have third parties working for them.

Curufinwe · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

I would also love a PM.

Final Verdict · Nov 14, 2014

AmaterasuOni said:
Also when I tested the demo at a launch party, the game grew old really fast. You just did the same shooting over and over again. All the jokes were quite abysmal as well. It's a pretty game and I guess it's made for quite young players judging from that art direction, jokes and the overall gameplay. It was kinda doomed to flop since the beginning. Nice niche game for people who likes to shoot things with different things and enjoy that kind of juvenile comedy.

I'll admit, the game starts fairly slow, but once you start progressing, it really opens up and turns into one of the funnest open world shooters I have ever played, and most reviewers seem to agree as well.

The humor part just depends on you taste. I think branding it as 'juvenile' is a bit of a generalization that will quickly fall apart if you take time to play through the whole campaign. I think 'over the top' would better describe it, and I for one definitely enjoyed it for what it was.

Kill3r7 · Nov 14, 2014

AmaterasuOni said:
Also when I tested the demo at a launch party, the game grew old really fast. You just did the same shooting over and over again. All the jokes were quite abysmal as well. It's a pretty game and I guess it's made for quite young players judging from that art direction, jokes and the overall gameplay. It was kinda doomed to flop since the beginning. Nice niche game for people who likes to shoot things with different things and enjoy that kind of juvenile comedy.

Except it's not. Some of the humor is bad but some of it strikes the right cords and is down right hilarious. The game was designed to be the antithesis of the boring modern day brown and drab shooter, which the vast majority of gaming enthusiast complain about. The problem is there are a lot of people who say they are tired of shooters but the reality is that they really like their CoD, BF or Halo.

Curufinwe · Nov 14, 2014

Coulomb_Barrier said:
It's getting increasingly absurd that NPD doesn't include digital software sales.

The percentage of games being bought via DD is increasing each month, even. They have said they are working on methods to track digital sales but they need to sort it out asap. If this carries on into much of 2015 it will be crazy.

They can't sort it out. Platform holders have no incentive to disclose digital sales to the NPD.

AmaterasuOni · Nov 14, 2014

KooopaKid said:
Plus even something more serious like Infamous didn't light the charts on fire. This style of game design doesn't attract a lot of people.

True, inFAMOUS is in the grey area as well. Basically it's made for a bit older audience, because of the serious themes, but at the same time it's "just a simple superhero game in a big city" just like SO. Although I enjoyed inFAMOUS:SS and Last Light, but I'm a sucker for superpowers.

Radec · Nov 14, 2014

heh.. imagine we having no numbers as well for November NPD.

AmaterasuOni · Nov 14, 2014

Final Verdict said:
I'll admit, the game starts fairly slow, but once you start progressing, it really opens up and turns into one of the funnest open world shooters I have ever played, and most reviewers seem to agree as well.

The humor part just depends on you taste. I think branding it as 'juvenile' is a bit of a generalization that will quickly fall apart if you take time to play through the whole campaign. I think 'over the top' would better describe it, and I for one definitely enjoyed it for what it was.

Yeah, might be. I just played the early stages of the game. I didn't quite get the game, I didn't like it that much, but I know many people who likes that kind of stuff. SO is like The Simpsons and I like my comedy more like the Family Guy, if you want a dry analogy.

Kill3r7 said:
Except it's not. Some of the humor is bad but some of it strikes the right cords and is down right hilarious. The game was designed to be the antithesis of the boring modern day brown and drab shooter, which the vast majority of gaming enthusiast complain about. The problem is there are a lot of people who say they are tired of shooters but the reality is that they really like their CoD, BF or Halo.

^Like Final Verdict says, it's all about "taste". I don't like that kind of jokes at all. I like them dark, mostly dry and really witty and intelligent. So SO's comedy was a huge turnoff for me.

I grew tired of shooters when CoD3 was the hottest thing. After that I've basically just played the ones that interest me: DE:HR, Destiny and such.

Phoenician_Viking · Nov 14, 2014

StevieP said:
No, it's the equivalent of your comment. I was showing you why it did not make any sense. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, by example not derogatory baseless comments.

It´s not equivalent at all. The whole gaming world was abuzz with emotion engine and how powerful the PS2 was. That did not happen to the DS. Not because its power anyway. Not to mention that DS launched a month before the PSP.

Thunder Monkey said:
Your argument wasn't exactly better.

PS2 was much weaker than both the Cube and Xbox. It was more powerful than only one of its competitors of the gen.

It's disingenuous to argue that way. Otherwise 3DS is both the winner of its generation and most powerful. Because it launched before Vita.

You can argue that one of the PS2's selling points was its technical capability. But not that it was the more powerful system.

Derp. The PS2 was seen as the most powerful console when it was released and by a large margin. Your equivalency is stupid and does not make sense. Everyone was talking about the powerful the PS2 is, and emotion engine and what not. No one talked about 3DS as the most powerful. Almost no one made a big deal. Unlike the PS2 which power meant a lot to the console.

Roboleon said:
Sometimes, when you have nothing to say, it's better to actually don't say anything.

Right back at you.

Thunder Monkey said:
PSP

If that doesn't work break out 3DS. Launched a long time before Vita. Ran away with a dwindling market. Was the most powerful handheld on the market at the time. That doesn't make it the most powerful handheld of its generation.

If Phoeny wanted to argue that people bought PS2 for it's technical capability that's perfectly cool. MGS2 made PS2 look in an entirely different generation from anything on the DC, but it was still one of the weakest systems of its generation. To argue otherwise is disingenuous at best.

Except the difference is almost no one was talking the 3DS´s power, unlike the PS2.

travisbickle · Nov 14, 2014

Radec said:
heh.. imagine we having no numbers as well for November NPD.

I think the age of NPD GAF is over. Not even a bone from Creamsugar, and the lack of numbers anywhere else on the net proves Aqua right that everyone was waiting for it on GAF and we were unwilling to hide them behind email tags!

RIP in peace NPD predictions Dec 2006 - Sep 2014.

Guymelef · Nov 14, 2014

I just wake up, no numbers, what happens here?

Mpl90 · Nov 14, 2014

travisbickle said:
I think the age of NPD GAF is over. Not even a bone from Creamsugar, and the lack of numbers anywhere else on the net proves Aqua right that everyone was waiting for it on GAF and we were unwilling to hide them behind email tags!

RIP in peace NPD predictions Dec 2006 - Sep 2014.

But, you know, quoting people's posts to see what's inside email tag is just too much stressful! What's this, pornography?!? /s

RPGamer92 · Nov 14, 2014

KooopaKid said:
Plus even something more serious like Infamous didn't light the charts on fire. This style of game design doesn't attract a lot of people.

infamous was the #2 best selling game the month it came out.

Sami+ · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

I would love a PM. Thanks.

RPGamer92 · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

I'd like a PM as well please.

AmaterasuOni · Nov 14, 2014

travisbickle said:
I think the age of NPD GAF is over. Not even a bone from Creamsugar, and the lack of numbers anywhere else on the net proves Aqua right that everyone was waiting for it on GAF and we were unwilling to hide them behind email tags!

RIP in peace NPD predictions Dec 2006 - Sep 2014.

Yep, everyone knew she was right, but I guess "the opposition" wanted this to happen, because "when there's no actual numbers, there's no real bad news".

GamerJM · Nov 14, 2014

Guymelef said:
I just wake up, no numbers, what happens here?

Creamsugar never delivered.

Mpl90 · Nov 14, 2014

Seriously, there can't be an NPD thread without hardware numbers, except for Wii U. We need them, even the smallest hint would be appreciated. Please, someone save us ;_;

rokkerkory · Nov 14, 2014

Wonder if hmcc will chart this month ie nov due all the issues.

DryvBy · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

PM this.

Katana_Strikes · Nov 14, 2014

rokkerkory said:
Wonder if hmcc will chart this month ie nov due all the issues.

It most definitely will. Same as AssCreed, just like any other popular game in the past that has had issues but still sold well, regardless if it's deserved or not.

Pimpbaa · Nov 14, 2014

Glad The Evil Within did well. Would like to see a sequel, but perhaps a bit more polish next time (or a better engine).

KooopaKid · Nov 14, 2014

RPGamer92 said:
infamous was the #2 best selling game the month it came out.

Doesn't mean much. I'm not sure it even sold 2M worldwide. All I can find is 1M in 9 days.

ethomaz · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

This site used GAF leak numbers... that is why it didn't posted this month.

It had the work to put the numbers in cool graphs.

Katana_Strikes · Nov 14, 2014

Is there anything worse than waking up in the morning and there's no cream or sugar in the house?

Conduit · Nov 14, 2014

AmaterasuOni said:
Yep, everyone knew she was right, but I guess "the opposition" wanted this to happen, because "when there's no actual numbers, there's no real bad news".

Guymelef · Nov 14, 2014

The age of Sony and NeoGAF NPD numbers is done.

Road · Nov 14, 2014

Guymelef said:
The age of Sony and NeoGAF NPD numbers is done.

Sony knows they're gonna lose November and every month from then on, so they managed to shut down all leaks so we never find out.

flkraven · Nov 14, 2014

Still dont see any all caps posts

Pennywise83 · Nov 14, 2014

Mpl90 said:
But, you know, quoting people's posts to see what's inside email tag is just too much stressful! What's this, pornography?!? /s

And I want Fantasy Life's numbers, lol

AmaterasuOni · Nov 14, 2014

Conduit said:

FTF · Nov 14, 2014

travisbickle said:
I think the age of NPD GAF is over. Not even a bone from Creamsugar, and the lack of numbers anywhere else on the net proves Aqua right that everyone was waiting for it on GAF and we were unwilling to hide them behind email tags!

RIP in peace NPD predictions Dec 2006 - Sep 2014.

Cornbread78 · Nov 14, 2014

Final Verdict said:
Yeah, I wouldn't say its a lock either because of BF, but it has clearly been outselling the PS4 so far...

For BF you looking at:
PS4 + TLOU + GTA = $400
XB1 + ACU + ACBF = $330
(most places)

Here is what some of the retailer specific deals look like:

XB1 + ACU + ACBF + Kinect + 2nd controler = $430 (Best Buy)
XB1 + ACU + ACBF + $50GC = $330 (Target)
PS4 + Lego + LBP3 = $400 (Toys R Us)
XB1 + MCC + $30GC = $330 (Walmart)
XB1 + Kinect = $330 ( Toys R Us)

As you can see, X1 has a lot more special deals planned.
It could be that MS did a lot of planning to work these out, but it is also very possible that the stores are doing this to move inventory.

Isn't there a WalMart bundle in their flyer that includes a PS4, GTAV, TLoU, and any other two games for $430?

Reedirect · Nov 14, 2014

So glad that all the people saying TEW would flop hard were wrong. Shame that Alien didn't pull similar numbers.

AmaterasuOni · Nov 14, 2014

Reedirect said:
So glad that all the people saying TEW would flop hard were wrong. Shame that Alien didn't pull similar numbers.

This is interesting, because at least I thought Alien is more appealing to masses than TEW.

Chobel · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

Can I have PM too?

amar212 · Nov 14, 2014

travisbickle said:
I think the age of NPD GAF is over. Not even a bone from Creamsugar, and the lack of numbers anywhere else on the net proves Aqua right that everyone was waiting for it on GAF and we were unwilling to hide them behind email tags!

RIP in peace NPD predictions Dec 2006 - Sep 2014.

Yes, I have never posted in NPD threads, but what Aquamarine and others were doing was really amazing.

We lost very much because of the few vocal minority persons.

I am issuing a plea for Aquamarine to reconsider her positions and make whatever she may like in the interest of the community.

Trust me. I'm a PhD · Nov 14, 2014

Cornbread78 said:
Isn't there a WalMart bundle in their flyer that includes a PS4, GTAV, TLoU, and any other two games for $430?

450USD, but yes^^ I think I will get this for my elder brother in PA... depends on the two additional games^^

Log4Girlz · Nov 14, 2014

amar212 said:
Yes, I have never posted in NPD threads, but what Aquamarine and others were doing was really amazing.

We lost very much because of the few vocal minority persons.

I am issuing a plea for Aquamarine to reconsider her positions and make whatever she may like in the interest of the community.

I don't want Aquamyqueen to get in trouble, better to remain quiet!

Replicant · Nov 14, 2014

I never understand the hype for Sunset and the NPD suggests many others don't either.

Cornbread78 · Nov 14, 2014

Trust me said:
450USD, but yes^^ I think I will get this for my elder brother in PA... depends on the two additional games^^

Yeah, if it's any 2 games, then it's a good deal.

Final Verdict · Nov 14, 2014

Cornbread78 said:
Isn't there a WalMart bundle in their flyer that includes a PS4, GTAV, TLoU, and any other two games for $430?

No....only retailer specific deal I could find for PS4 was the Toys R Us bundle with Lego and LBP3.
Everywhere else seems to be just doing the standard TLOU + GTA bundle.

But there is still hope, Gamestop's BF has not been leaked yet.

Psycho_Mantis · Nov 14, 2014

saddest NPD thread I've read ;___;

Final Verdict · Nov 14, 2014

On Demand said:
A certain site who gave full numbers last month doesn't have any for Nov. It was posted by a member here but then he edited his post as he was told. Seems it was too late as it was posted on chartzzzzzzzzzz.

Sigh. PM's are your friend.

I bookmarked the site just in case.

EDIT-

Too early in the morning. Obviously i ment Sep and OCT. lol.

May I have a PM?

Raist · Nov 14, 2014

amar212 said:
Yes, I have never posted in NPD threads, but what Aquamarine and others were doing was really amazing.

We lost very much because of the few vocal minority persons.

I am issuing a plea for Aquamarine to reconsider her positions and make whatever she may like in the interest of the community.

I'm not even sure what happened, and I've read most of last month's NPD thread. I just saw her gradually lose it, posting all caps and one-word posts and stuff.

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