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Battlefield Hardline Open Beta Discussion Thread
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UpDownLeftRight
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You shouldn't be expecting PBR in most games yet. It's going to remain a rarity for a little longer and maybe won't even be the norm until next gen depending on what devs decide to prioritize since it's a hell of a challenge to squeeze in, being so power hungry.
icecold1983
Member
pc. the guns are wildly imbalanced, movement is even jankier than bf4. netcode is really bad. graphics worse than bf4, framerate worse. that dust bowl map is horrendously awful. its basically just a flat square of terrain with buildings plopped on it. the amt of battlepick ups is stupid.
Pjsprojects
Member
Not for me thanks.
Tried all three, PS4,X1 and maxed PC. Game chuggs a bit on PS4 and it looks worse than BF4 on all formats.
As mentioned above it feels more like a average dlc pack.
Tried all three, PS4,X1 and maxed PC. Game chuggs a bit on PS4 and it looks worse than BF4 on all formats.
As mentioned above it feels more like a average dlc pack.
death4romabove22
Member
Just created an EU account how do I activate it on my ps4 and DL the beta ?
Broadbandito
Member
I played for 4-5 hours last night on ps4, experienced no NOTICEABLE frame rate drop. Was super impressed compared to bf4 and the e3 hardline beta last year.
Pjsprojects
Member
I got a stutter when jumping a car over a fence into some players and again when crashing a chopper into a building.
icecold1983
Member
this post sums up exactly how i feel about it
"Over the last few months this game has become worse in every possible way. Every aspect of this feels poor, clunky and unrefined in the sort of way that isn't a "don't worry they'll fix it on release affair". I'm not joking about the every aspect, it just feels bad in the way that you know means it always will be.
The vehicles are driving around at silly speeds in a tiny block-sized maps with downright absurd handling; they feel ****ty to drive and look ****ty when you see them driving around.
The weapons; a complete hit and miss of either being utterly OP or having terrible recoil for no rhyme or reason ... there is absolutely nothing resembling an overall weapon balance in this game, they all feel individually tuned in a vacuum and completely disjointed from one another in how you would expect one class of weapon to perform like compared to another.
I played mainly Hot-Wire this morning. Um. Maybe it's because of the way the vehicles feel like above, but it feels like a massive cluster **** of random crap occurring without much direction. It's not very fun. You can pull the "But people don't know how to play it yet!" card, but most people don't know how to play conquest after over a decade, so that's always going to be the case. It's just the same problem you get in the likes of BF4. Horrible, horrible spawn system leading to a cluster **** game that isn't much fun to play.
The theme doesn't make the slightest lick of sense. Cops and robbers; ok. Only Cops have some extreme, zero-tolerance shoot to kill policy from apparently before they know a crime has been committed and robbers aren't so much robbers as a paramilitary organization? why exactly isn't the actual military being called in for this? because a paramilitary organization with air support is beyond the wheel house of your average police force. If you're going for a theme, go with the theme, don't try and make it something it isn't.
Then onto why helicopters are apparently mandatory on these tiny maps? It's a Battlefield game that doesn't want to be seen as a battlefield game even though it still includes basically everything you find in a battlefield game, but just whatever you do don't call it a battlefield game because it's not, or something?
This game is poorly imagined, poorly executed and downright schizophrenic in it's delivery of a war that isn't a war because apparently a car is being boosted as the cause for the hundreds of deaths about to occur, so it's just a police matter.
Then for me performance personally is down since the last beta and now I stutter every few seconds. Perhaps they will fix that, perhaps they won't. But as one of those unlucky many that pre-ordered Battlefield 4 to have a **** sandwich served cold to me I'm just not willing to even give this the chance in that regard. DICE, Sweden or LA, burnt that bridge over a year ago and my willingness to hang around for them to fix their broken games no longer exists."
i personally dont care about the police theme, but all of the rest rings true to me.
"Over the last few months this game has become worse in every possible way. Every aspect of this feels poor, clunky and unrefined in the sort of way that isn't a "don't worry they'll fix it on release affair". I'm not joking about the every aspect, it just feels bad in the way that you know means it always will be.
The vehicles are driving around at silly speeds in a tiny block-sized maps with downright absurd handling; they feel ****ty to drive and look ****ty when you see them driving around.
The weapons; a complete hit and miss of either being utterly OP or having terrible recoil for no rhyme or reason ... there is absolutely nothing resembling an overall weapon balance in this game, they all feel individually tuned in a vacuum and completely disjointed from one another in how you would expect one class of weapon to perform like compared to another.
I played mainly Hot-Wire this morning. Um. Maybe it's because of the way the vehicles feel like above, but it feels like a massive cluster **** of random crap occurring without much direction. It's not very fun. You can pull the "But people don't know how to play it yet!" card, but most people don't know how to play conquest after over a decade, so that's always going to be the case. It's just the same problem you get in the likes of BF4. Horrible, horrible spawn system leading to a cluster **** game that isn't much fun to play.
The theme doesn't make the slightest lick of sense. Cops and robbers; ok. Only Cops have some extreme, zero-tolerance shoot to kill policy from apparently before they know a crime has been committed and robbers aren't so much robbers as a paramilitary organization? why exactly isn't the actual military being called in for this? because a paramilitary organization with air support is beyond the wheel house of your average police force. If you're going for a theme, go with the theme, don't try and make it something it isn't.
Then onto why helicopters are apparently mandatory on these tiny maps? It's a Battlefield game that doesn't want to be seen as a battlefield game even though it still includes basically everything you find in a battlefield game, but just whatever you do don't call it a battlefield game because it's not, or something?
This game is poorly imagined, poorly executed and downright schizophrenic in it's delivery of a war that isn't a war because apparently a car is being boosted as the cause for the hundreds of deaths about to occur, so it's just a police matter.
Then for me performance personally is down since the last beta and now I stutter every few seconds. Perhaps they will fix that, perhaps they won't. But as one of those unlucky many that pre-ordered Battlefield 4 to have a **** sandwich served cold to me I'm just not willing to even give this the chance in that regard. DICE, Sweden or LA, burnt that bridge over a year ago and my willingness to hang around for them to fix their broken games no longer exists."
i personally dont care about the police theme, but all of the rest rings true to me.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
Just finished trying this out on PS4,
Game's IQ seems higher than BF4, much cleaner image, less muddy. Framerate seems incredibly smooth, not a single drop, even on high action moments. Loadings were faster than BF4 as well. Graphics however, even though they look "nice", they are nothing special. Gameplay wise I thought it was very similar to Payday 2 for some reason (maybe was just the setting), it plays very similar to BF4, with some minor changes, action seems way faster, and you can see bullet drop, also similar to Counter-Strike, if you're moving, bullets fly all over the place.
Somehow I still get a "cheap" feeling about this one, IMO its not worth full price, i'd say the game feels like a F2P game, or a 15 game, something along those lines. Eitherway, if you asked me whats wrong with it, I wouldnt know how to answer.
PS. I jut played Heist mode.
Game's IQ seems higher than BF4, much cleaner image, less muddy. Framerate seems incredibly smooth, not a single drop, even on high action moments. Loadings were faster than BF4 as well. Graphics however, even though they look "nice", they are nothing special. Gameplay wise I thought it was very similar to Payday 2 for some reason (maybe was just the setting), it plays very similar to BF4, with some minor changes, action seems way faster, and you can see bullet drop, also similar to Counter-Strike, if you're moving, bullets fly all over the place.
Somehow I still get a "cheap" feeling about this one, IMO its not worth full price, i'd say the game feels like a F2P game, or a 15 game, something along those lines. Eitherway, if you asked me whats wrong with it, I wouldnt know how to answer.
PS. I jut played Heist mode.
People worrying about the graphics need to remember they toned it down last "beta" to cut download size down. I'm pretty sure the same thing is happening here unless Visceral has gone on record with "LOL NO. THESE ARE FINAL."
icecold1983
Member
they have said this is final
Broadbandito
Member
Summer Haze
Banned
Yeah, It was between this game, or re-buy BF4 along with all of it's map packs. I think I'm going to go with the latter. There's no way I'm paying full price for this. This looks and feels like a quick, cheap, BF4 add-on.
A couple of random screenshots from the PS4 version (USB capture):
A couple of random screenshots from the PS4 version (USB capture):
Reckless Onion
Member
Game is amazingly fun. I love it
That AKM though
That AKM though
I've been playing all day and Downtown hasn't come up on X1. There are only 2 maps right now. :\
The vehicle physics/handling have been dreadful since forever (jeeps, bikes, etc). They desperately need to be completely reworked for BF5.
death4romabove22
Member
Hey gaffers need some help if I activate a EU psn do I need to start a new PS plus membership as well ?
dark_inferno
Member
Yeah, It was between this game, or re-buy BF4 along with all of it's map packs. I think I'm going to go with the latter. There's no way I'm paying full price for this. This looks and feels like a quick, cheap, BF4 add-on.
A couple of random screenshots from the PS4 version (USB capture):
Ugh... it looks like a PS3 game.
Edit: Thanks man for showing that. Wanted to download it but i got here and saw that. Now im not downloading it. Saving the Traffic for something else then.
Backfoggen
Banned
Yeah, It was between this game, or re-buy BF4 along with all of it's map packs. I think I'm going to go with the latter. There's no way I'm paying full price for this. This looks and feels like a quick, cheap, BF4 add-on.
A couple of random screenshots from the PS4 version (USB capture):
BF4 was ok for a launch title but there are no improvements in terms of AF or AA. Looks awful for a recent release.
Broadbandito
Member
This comes with a rock solid frame rate and none of that annoying blur. I prefer this to bf4 visually/performance wise
Collateral22
Member
No once one account that's primary has PS+ then it's fine the EU account will work
Anton Sugar
Member
I was going to say that Frostbite is just destined to never look good on consoles, but that doesn't explain Dragon Age: Inquisition, which was also multiplatform.
I don't know what it is about BF games. I figured they'd make some strides further into this gen's cycle, but it doesn't look much better than BF4, if at all.
Let's not go nuts. PS3 Frostbite games look like dogshit.
I don't know what it is about BF games. I figured they'd make some strides further into this gen's cycle, but it doesn't look much better than BF4, if at all.
Let's not go nuts. PS3 Frostbite games look like dogshit.
VisceralBowl
Member
Broadbandito
Member
so no finalized visuals for beta, pretty close though. Thanks
I'll be happy when they stop focusing on 360/ps3 releases
death4romabove22
Member
No once one account that's primary has PS+ then it's fine the EU account will work
So do I just go into settings to activate the EU account
Summer Haze
Banned
What? There are dips galore in this game. Unless you're talking about the 32 player mode, which is much more stable, but still not locked 60fps.
(On PS4 I might add)
icecold1983
Member
thats one way to interpret it lol
Summer Haze
Banned
Yeah, this definitely looks worse imo.
AusRoachman
Member
Can't even logon to origin (Xbox one ) . Guess I will try again tomorrow .
Summer Haze
Banned
This. I want a proper, current-gen-only BF game. Last-gen's roots are so painfully obvious in this game.
dapperbandit
Banned
Finally got to play it.
It plays smooth and I don't have much to complain about visuals wise.
I think my biggest complaint is just the general design of the menus. A complete clusterfuck, I have no idea what I'm looking at or where to find things.
It plays smooth and I don't have much to complain about visuals wise.
I think my biggest complaint is just the general design of the menus. A complete clusterfuck, I have no idea what I'm looking at or where to find things.
Broadbandito
Member
I played with like 40 people in conquest last night, I didn't notice drops like I did on e3 beta and bf4 ps4. 32 player heist was solid too, I was really surprised. Told my buddy that I would not buy it on ps4 unless it was a smoother experience and to my surprise they got it pretty smooth. This was after 4-5 hours of play
dark_inferno
Member
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-off-battlefield-3?page=2
Its really funny. Because those shots look awfully like a few of those BF3 maps. And i cant see the difference seriously. Maybe its the Frostbite engine or maybe the devs but those shots are terrible.
DrGonzo615
Banned
Still going to try this when it goes live in the US, but all the impressions here pretty much confirm what Ive been saying all along.....this was an expansion that EA decided to milk into another full release. I would have totally been on board with this game if it was a $15-$20 expansion pack like BF:V for BC2 but a full release for what seems like amounts to a few new maps and vehicles? Meh.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
it's open to all
not up in NA yet. Probably going up later today with the rest of the store update
? The maps on offer aren't all that there will be for the full game.
Filthy Casual
Member
So 1080p on PS4 was bullshit then, urghh. Is the download meant to change to 2gb btw?