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PGS -- Windows 10 Game Handheld announced
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The Real Napsta
Member
Where can I pre order?
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
GhostTrick
Banned
Z8750 sounds too difficult to sustain in such a form factor for a decent battery life.
well, that's windowed. Fullscreen would be just fine.
Lol that's hilarious, good one.
me0wish
Member
Yup, but it's probably fake, check out GPD win:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-intel-z8550-win-10-os-game-console#/
cbrotherson
Member
A bit more info, via the Pyra/Pandora and dingoonity boards:
- Secondary storage is MicroSD
- Retail launch is still the first plan, via investor income for funding.
- They dont plan to do pre-orders. The device will be available when it is ready (ETA Q4 2016). Interestingly, the estimated price has gone up a fraction to $230-260.
- Vibro-motors will be added to the device (not sure what effect this will have on ETAs/price).
- Theyre reconsidering the location of the analogue sticks, second screen app, guide button and colour scheme.
- The company is registered in the United States, Detroit. The head office is located in Moscow. Logistics office in China.
- Secondary storage is MicroSD
- Retail launch is still the first plan, via investor income for funding.
- They dont plan to do pre-orders. The device will be available when it is ready (ETA Q4 2016). Interestingly, the estimated price has gone up a fraction to $230-260.
- Vibro-motors will be added to the device (not sure what effect this will have on ETAs/price).
- Theyre reconsidering the location of the analogue sticks, second screen app, guide button and colour scheme.
- The company is registered in the United States, Detroit. The head office is located in Moscow. Logistics office in China.
If its actually that price , then wow. Ill buy one.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Where the hell did this come from all of a sudden?
StereoVsn
Member
I will buy two, one would be a present. I stil don't believe this is real.
Just get rid of the second screen.
NoFaceNico
Member
I think the people behind this project have Kickstarter on their mind.
Check out this unlisted video entitled "PGS Kickstarter 2.0" that was uploaded on March 26: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyTYOM_yl0k
It seems to show a working "prototype" but I have quotation marks there for a reason. Someone who watched it believes it's just an off the shelf windows tablet without its case. Can anyone confirm this and identify the board?
If indeed their "early prototype" is just someone else's product and they're making these outrageous claims and price predictions, then I would strongly advise them to reconsider launching a Kickstarter at this stage.
Edit:
By the way, did they hire the ScreenJunkies honest trailer guy to say "PGS Revolution Now"?? If it's the same guy that's pretty cool!
Also, just some helpful advice to the team. It seems like the guy in the video is a foreigner speaking English and they dubbed over his voice. I would recommend that they just use his voice, even if he has a heavy accent. It actually is endearing to have the "foreign tech guru" leading a pitch video.
Check out this unlisted video entitled "PGS Kickstarter 2.0" that was uploaded on March 26: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyTYOM_yl0k
It seems to show a working "prototype" but I have quotation marks there for a reason. Someone who watched it believes it's just an off the shelf windows tablet without its case. Can anyone confirm this and identify the board?
If indeed their "early prototype" is just someone else's product and they're making these outrageous claims and price predictions, then I would strongly advise them to reconsider launching a Kickstarter at this stage.
Edit:
By the way, did they hire the ScreenJunkies honest trailer guy to say "PGS Revolution Now"?? If it's the same guy that's pretty cool!
Also, just some helpful advice to the team. It seems like the guy in the video is a foreigner speaking English and they dubbed over his voice. I would recommend that they just use his voice, even if he has a heavy accent. It actually is endearing to have the "foreign tech guru" leading a pitch video.
NoFaceNico
Member
I've identified their "early prototype" as a $65 Linx EM-I8270 7 inch Tablet, which is also sold under the Emdoor brand.
It's actually written on the board itself.
Also, when you look at the buttons and input/outputs they are exact matches.
Here is the Linx (flipped over) superimposed on the "early prototype":
It's actually written on the board itself.
Also, when you look at the buttons and input/outputs they are exact matches.
Here is the Linx (flipped over) superimposed on the "early prototype":
Even their trailer looks fake. At least they are consistent.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
That video is amazing.
I've identified their "early prototype" as a $65 Linx EM-I8270 7 inch Tablet, which is also sold under the Emdoor brand.
It's actually written on the board itself.
Also, when you look at the buttons and input/outputs they are exact matches.
Here is the Linx (flipped over) superimposed on the "early prototype":
They responded:
R10Neymarfan
Member
I really want to believe...
NoFaceNico
Member
Where did they originally post the response?
Also, the video was released to the Dingoonity and Pandora forums by the PGS team themselves.
Diablohead
Member
a linx7 processor is not going to play a great deal without melting, the processors in those get HOT and I know, I own the 10inch model.
lol hardly.
Building a storefront is incredibly expensive. And that's before you actually convince developers to put their games on your system. And you won't, because the potential audience is so tiny there's nothing worth it for them to spend the time (which is money) to do so. So then you're paying developers for the privilege of adding their games to your store.
And don't forget the extraordinarily complex workings of international financial systems, being able to accept payment in different countries, how you track all the accounting, paying your developers on time.
Oh! Don't forget about developer dashboards so they can check to see whether they sold 3 units or 4 units last month! And also you need to build refunds now. So that when 3 of your 4 customers refunded the game because they'd rather buy it on Steam, the developer knows how much money they should be getting back from you. Did you figure that part out too - working out how refunds should work?
And then everyone will just go and install Steam anyway.
...Scatter...
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If Microsoft released it I would be interested because I'd know games would be supported at those performance specs. I couldn't commit to an item like this in the PC wild without set performance targets.
WaterAstro
Member
It's symmetrical sticks, so it's fake.
qualitydisc
Member
Are the sunken thumbsticks like that feasible from a design point of view?
Pictured: Hardcore and Standard model. Here's an update from PGS taken from two sources (Dingoo board and FragHero)
FragHero said:
PGS commentating on the latest revision on Dingoo said:
Guess we won't have to worry about this being a crowdfunding scam.
cbrotherson
Member
Nice update - they've also said they're prepping something for E3:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFbeHLMhp2-/
I'll be attending the show so if I come across a prototype or such during a work break, I'll let you know.
GhostTrick
Banned
I dont believe it. Must be a scam and they'll either do a crowdfunding or preorder thing.
Out of nowhere, unrealistic prices and specs.
Out of nowhere, unrealistic prices and specs.
When you rotate the top of the stick it pops out and locks into place or back and push them down and they lock down. It not a new concept and one of the few things that could happen with this device.
The bottom screen showing a bespoke overview of the track, like a WiiU gamepad, is also very confusing.
dwr
Member
Some new info I found on a youtube comment by the PGS team:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i60l92f4Z08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i60l92f4Z08
Portable Solutions 5 days ago said:Hi, Thank you for attention to PGS!
// "Where i can purchase"
At the moment, nowhere. We are planning to start selling in December. But this depends on many factors.
// "I can not find PGS on the Kickstarter"
Initially, we planned to develop a device using a business investor. Unfortunately, we went with the opinion with the investor. The investor would like to convert the product to the next low-quality junk. While we want to do as a qualitative device as possible. Eventually we going to try luck at Kickstarter. Most likely in the coming week.
Link to a draft of our page:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pgslab/981507127?token=c0c2fbd9
// "do you have prototype?"
Currently, we have several "frankenstein" prototypes. Unfortunately, at the moment they are visually far from the final renders. They based on Microsoft Surface 3 (128\4) stuffing, and it has the same performance. As soon as we have an industrial prototype, we are pleased to show his.
// "2016Q4"
This date we promised our partner manufacturer. Even if we have to move the release date, I do not think that will be a big shift.
// Why so cheap?
Because we canThe approximate cost of the base model - $ 200. We have big plans for our product, and its future generations (Apollo Like), and we would like to earn a reputation in the eyes of the target audience, get fanbase. Retail will be a little more expensive.
// Retail Constacts?
Currently - nope. We plan to sell our product from Gearbest and Amazon.
// Can you show prototype benchmarks video?
Can, but the results will not differ from the results of testing Surface 3 (128/4), full of them on the web.
In truth, PGS is not the best choice for the most demanding games, like Witcher 3, DOOM 4 etc, but we must remember that these games less than one percent. Battlefield 3? No problem. Mass Effect trilogy in HD? Why not? Bioshock trology? Sure. Skyrim, Fallout 3? Yes. Tens of thousands of great games that are not available on phones and handheld game consoles.
PGS team - fans of the handheld gaming devices. We do not aim to release the device to just make money. We want to do something really new, comfortable, high-quality, popular. And we will do everything in our power to make it. I hope that answered all the questions. If we missed something, ask us. Good luck!
GhostTrick
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