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shysaursoft
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Here's two more shots I made today:
After Ragged Scrybe suggested it, I've made a Deviant Art account and am in the process of putting my shots up there: http://miktar-dracon.deviantart.com/
After Ragged Scrybe suggested it, I've made a Deviant Art account and am in the process of putting my shots up there: http://miktar-dracon.deviantart.com/
shysaursoft
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The next "best looking game" thread on GAF is going to get so fucking wrecked by your stuff.
So if we beat both of those, we won the game,right? Time to quit!
shysaursoft
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You made me go look at the first screenshot I ever took, vs the latest. What a year can do:
EDIT:
Perhaps y'all can help me. I'm trying to decide between one of these two Cursed Shores shots to use (these are the end result from about a dozen I made, most of them failures due to rain / random mobs):
FormallyMegadrive
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Hey guys, could I get an invite to any of the guilds? I'm on right now as "Suspended Chaos" and will be on for another 4-5 hours. 
edit: Thanks!
edit: Thanks!
BrettWeir
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So I figured I would start accumulating mats for The Flameseeker Prophecies for my Engi, Floobit.....I didn't mind the mats listings, until I came across the 500 Ascalonian Tears. I've never stepped foot in Ascalon Catacombs. Everything else in the recipe is attainable solo, which makes these frustrating for me since I hate to have to beg for people to run AC over and over. Ugh.
On that note......how the hell did The Flameseeker Prophecies NOT get an overhaul like some of the other Legendaries did in the previous patch?? No footfall, and compared to most other Legendaries, it seems rather......dull.
On that note......how the hell did The Flameseeker Prophecies NOT get an overhaul like some of the other Legendaries did in the previous patch?? No footfall, and compared to most other Legendaries, it seems rather......dull.
Kos Luftar
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Got it for my warrior this morning. Will probably the other two as they come out. He will have totally different ones from my Engi.
AFollowerNotALeader
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So.
About overflows. I was thinking about this last night.
Obviously they are necessary. For various reasons, many of them good, the servers don't scale to large numbers of players.
It's been a while so for a while I was trying to remember how other games solved this issue. The *best* I've seen so far, was ironically in a game where this mechanism was rarely used (because of a rapidly declining player base) which was SWTOR (and mostly surfaced on star bases and during world events after they merged servers).
In SWTOR, additional instances of zones are also spun up on demand. These differ from overflows in GW2 in three distinct ways.
1) They are server specific. You are always playing with people from your server.
2) They are named and it's easy to tell which one you and your friends are in.(e.g. Nah Shaddaa:1 Nah Shaddaa:2)
3) You can switch between them at will by right clicking on the map and selecting a different instance from the menu.
This is much better for organising with friends than GW2 (one of those extremely rare occurrences where SWTOR is better!). It would be great if you could agree with your friends on TS that you are doing Tequatl in Sparkfly Fen:2 and then port yourself there.
You also don't have the issue which we have in Europe with GW2 (which you are less likely to have in the US) where people in overflows are all speaking different languages, made worse by the idiots who haven't realised that they are in an overflow (despite the pop up message - I don't understand how these people are so stupid) and start chewing people out for not speaking English on an "English" server.
Obviously where this is slightly worse is that there might not be enough players on one server in that zone to fill two instances, but unlike SWTOR, GW2 doesn't really have population issues (this was actually helpful with SWTOR world events because you could avoid the combination of bad design and idiots by choosing a lower population instance of the zone).
At the very least, they could group the servers that contribute to overflows by language.
It also ought to be possible to name the overflows and allow players to port to the "right" one at will (assuming it's not full).
About overflows. I was thinking about this last night.
Obviously they are necessary. For various reasons, many of them good, the servers don't scale to large numbers of players.
It's been a while so for a while I was trying to remember how other games solved this issue. The *best* I've seen so far, was ironically in a game where this mechanism was rarely used (because of a rapidly declining player base) which was SWTOR (and mostly surfaced on star bases and during world events after they merged servers).
In SWTOR, additional instances of zones are also spun up on demand. These differ from overflows in GW2 in three distinct ways.
1) They are server specific. You are always playing with people from your server.
2) They are named and it's easy to tell which one you and your friends are in.(e.g. Nah Shaddaa:1 Nah Shaddaa:2)
3) You can switch between them at will by right clicking on the map and selecting a different instance from the menu.
This is much better for organising with friends than GW2 (one of those extremely rare occurrences where SWTOR is better!). It would be great if you could agree with your friends on TS that you are doing Tequatl in Sparkfly Fen:2 and then port yourself there.
You also don't have the issue which we have in Europe with GW2 (which you are less likely to have in the US) where people in overflows are all speaking different languages, made worse by the idiots who haven't realised that they are in an overflow (despite the pop up message - I don't understand how these people are so stupid) and start chewing people out for not speaking English on an "English" server.
Obviously where this is slightly worse is that there might not be enough players on one server in that zone to fill two instances, but unlike SWTOR, GW2 doesn't really have population issues (this was actually helpful with SWTOR world events because you could avoid the combination of bad design and idiots by choosing a lower population instance of the zone).
At the very least, they could group the servers that contribute to overflows by language.
It also ought to be possible to name the overflows and allow players to port to the "right" one at will (assuming it's not full).
Kos Luftar
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Nope. You might be giving up to easily.
Last night we had a bone wall go up, which means someone in turrets or who ever was defending the screwed up, but we still killed him with 2 minutes left.
Kos Luftar
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Lag is bad in NA as well where skills won't even activate. The only thing that helps is to put the graphics settings to "Best Performance" where everything looks like shit but at least the skills work.
It is so satisfying when he actually goes down.
God that's gorgeous.
I mean people tend to reference GW1 as "doing it better," without the need to venture into SWTOR-land. In towns, there was no "main" or "overflow," just "districts" that were numbered and cross-server (GW1 didn't even have selectable servers). There were even international districts where people could meet up cross-region, which GW2 tragically lacks of course. The problem with this concept is that it was never desirable to have a certain number of people in GW1 cities, because nothing actually happened in them in terms of gameplay.
in GW2 when an overflow for a zone pops up, it's almost always because something is occurring that requires a substantial population present. So while arbitrarily naming the overflows and making it either to jump between them would be great as convenience features, and some kind of language flag sounds crucial for funneling players into different overflows, the idea of overflows being created merely with the overflowing players from one particular server would very likely have the net effect of making them even more frustrating to play on. While GW2 as a whole itself doesn't have population issues, the quirks of individual servers mean that you could wind up with a player from a server that was just barely able to fill their main instance, and a player from a server that filled up its main and an entire overflow already, both separately on a map with 3 other people instead of being merged together to at least increase the population on that one.
Of course, the cross-server population is difficult to organize even without a language barrier. So while it would make sense to make it more convenient to make sure that your friends or guild all get onto the same non-main instance, the real primary issue of not being able to "get into your home server," where the real community coordination is taking place, really remains unchanged in any of these solutions. The overflow issue is frustrating primarily because during the times that server communities come into play, the "home server rush" is a big deal whereas most of the time in GW2 it doesn't interfere with you. It's not an easy solve, and I just feel like so often people deride the way overflows work as some kind of mistake in design rather than being a solution to another problem themselves. Things would actually be much more limiting without them
edit: Personally haven't had any skill lag or latency during Teq fights yet, knock on wood!
edito:
This is gonna be up any minute: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/october-01-2013/
i.e. now
The back piece is fucking hilarious.
Everyone wins:
1. They're leaving the old TA there for those that haven't done it
2. They're adding a new level 80 path that is connected to scarlet and the living story
Although, those rewards look pretty meh, but then again I've never really been big on rewards. It's all about the challenge for me. Can't wait for some new dungeon goodness.
Also??
Okay? Kind of reminds me of Wind Waker, lol.
1. They're leaving the old TA there for those that haven't done it
2. They're adding a new level 80 path that is connected to scarlet and the living story
Although, those rewards look pretty meh, but then again I've never really been big on rewards. It's all about the challenge for me. Can't wait for some new dungeon goodness.
Also??
Okay? Kind of reminds me of Wind Waker, lol.
Very sparse page (wouldn't be surprised to see another update to it before Tues) but this is the interesting component IMO:
A couple of the aetherized nightmare skins might look quite nice on a character or two.
How peculiar. Not a whole lot of interaction between the open world and dungeon paths so far. Wonder what's in those chests.
A couple of the aetherized nightmare skins might look quite nice on a character or two.
I wouldn't expect a lot in this update, other than the dungeon that is. I think a new dungeon is plenty of content for 2 weeks, particularly when the second update of the month will most likely be the big ol' Mad King update.
Also, there is an "extended" free trial from Sept. 27th to Oct. 3rd. Nearly a whole week! Tell your friends!
Also, there is an "extended" free trial from Sept. 27th to Oct. 3rd. Nearly a whole week! Tell your friends!
Kos Luftar
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Very interesting way of doing this update. I guess it wasn't a revamp just a new path.
Back pieces are getting ridiculous, I really hope they aren't the next legendary items that have been rumored.
Another update that will piss off WvWers and PvPers I guess...mostly PvE content this update.
Back pieces are getting ridiculous, I really hope they aren't the next legendary items that have been rumored.
Another update that will piss off WvWers and PvPers I guess...mostly PvE content this update.
There will be WvW content announced, but nothing huge I don't think. Just like consumables dropping from player kills and stuff.
I don't expect anything else in terms of new playable content, but typically the releases will throw a bone to something else as well, be it a structural or QoL change, a WvW rank change or mastery, something in PvP, etc. It's just unusually sparse at first glance. Granted I can understand them needing a break once in a while. Like the last 6 updates have all had something in that vein
edit: Also yeah the 15th patch will be rather large.
Kos Luftar
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I don't think there is anything else new because a new dungeon path must take a whole lot of work and testing and this update is just before the Halloween update which is probably packed full of new features.
At the very least it'll have the skill balance changes, the new condition damage display floaters and trait tooltip systems.
Yep. Which is a decent amount of stuff if you ask me. Like I said, the big one is the 15th.
in GW2 when an overflow for a zone pops up, it's almost always because something is occurring that requires a substantial population present. So while arbitrarily naming the overflows and making it either to jump between them would be great as convenience features, and some kind of language flag sounds crucial for funneling players into different overflows, the idea of overflows being created merely with the overflowing players from one particular server would very likely have the net effect of making them even more frustrating to play on. While GW2 as a whole itself doesn't have population issues, the quirks of individual servers mean that you could wind up with a player from a server that was just barely able to fill their main instance, and a player from a server that filled up its main and an entire overflow already, both separately on a map with 3 other people instead of being merged together to at least increase the population on that one.
Of course, the cross-server population is difficult to organize even without a language barrier. So while it would make sense to make it more convenient to make sure that your friends or guild all get onto the same non-main instance, the real primary issue of not being able to "get into your home server," where the real community coordination is taking place, really remains unchanged in any of these solutions. The overflow issue is frustrating primarily because during the times that server communities come into play, the "home server rush" is a big deal whereas most of the time in GW2 it doesn't interfere with you. It's not an easy solve, and I just feel like so often people deride the way overflows work as some kind of mistake in design rather than being a solution to another problem themselves. Things would actually be much more limiting without them
Yeah, I agree. I thought about the whole concept of having "districts" like in GW1, but I don't think it would really work for this type of encounter. It might solve some issues but create others. Nothing's perfect. I'd never get rid of the overflow concept for anything, but right now, in the short term, it's frustrating.
Right now the need to camp out and wait for Tequatl (something I thought was gone years ago in MMOs) is annoying. If you aren't logged in early enough to get into the SBI version of Sparkfly (A picky sidenote: I refuse to call it 'mainflow' - for some reason I find the term annoying. If you're not in an overflow, you're just on Stormbluff Isle!), you're probably not going to be able to play with your whole guild. The ability to ferry individual players only works to a point, since the server gets full. Getting locked out comes with a slightly decreased chance of winning the fight, since whatever effort your home server is making to organize is now useless to you. Although if you've got some good commanders or vocal people in the overflow to organize people, that helps. If players were able to say "OK guys, GAF is gonna go to Sparkfly #3" we could maybe all get in AND the overflow would benefit from an organized force helping to push things along. That said, there are obvious flaws here too. Getting everyone in still wouldn't be a guarantee, and I think it would all depend on how early the overflows started opening - if a guild suddenly jumps into an overflow where Tequatl's already been up for 2 minutes, you've lost some valuable time.
Complaints aside, I think this is all a temporary problem. Tequatl is New and Shiny. We have new content coming NEXT WEEK, and in all likelihood that's going to thin out the crowds a bit. Tequatl will still be very popular, but eventually they'll revamp other bosses or add new ones that will thin out the crowds even more. The overflow problem will gradually decrease over time. It's my hope that Tequatl becomes an "event" you can plan and organize for with multiple guilds, instead of just hoping to get in with the crowds.
I think the ideal compromise for me would be to make Tequatl (and other world bosses) spawnable like the Karka Queen. That way, the guild doing the work would already be there when the crowds start coming in.
Kos Luftar
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Best thing about Oct 1st update is that SAB will be shut down!
/flameshieldup
/flameshieldup
No... no.. I don't think anybody is going to disagree with you on this one, Beardo. It's almost universally panned.
Kos Luftar
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I know everyone complained about the one zone but did it actually make people hate all of SAB because of it?
Nah, World 1 is still great. World 2 is brought down by 2-2, though 2-3 is too long as well. Less frustrating though, in terms of design.
Yeah, when you do 2-2, come back.
I hate the term "mainflow" too
It definitely is annoying. I was able to get in at about 7:27PM yesterday without even needing a ferry, but I definitely usually. I'd love it if you could trigger him as well, but I don't know if they have the event chain logic in place.
I still have plenty of time to spend in SAB before it's gone and I'll be sure to mention how much I hate 2-2
I wonder if they're making adjustments to it though, like they did with AC. Some of the boss fights in there are boring, and all of the final Nightmare Tree fights feel like they can be cheesed too easily.
I hate the term "mainflow" too
It definitely is annoying. I was able to get in at about 7:27PM yesterday without even needing a ferry, but I definitely usually.
Did you have Irish coffee at work this morning?
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