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Bioshock Infinite Final Box Art

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
The box art is... okay... I guess.

One of these would have been better:

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At least have Elizabeth in there.

But the box art is okay.

now this would be better (after some cleanup). Most covers proposed in this thread were not good.

The game is about shooting people in the face, first and foremost. Of course there will be something more to that but it's a base mechanic so it should be conveyed in box art.
 
So you guys spent years designing and realizing a steam-punk utopia city in the sky? Fuck that here's a white guy with a shotgun.
 

ymmv

Banned
So you guys spent years designing and realizing a steam-punk utopia city in the sky? Fuck that here's a white guy with a shotgun.

Yep. The game's biggest selling points are MIA on the cover. The designers have made tons of art in that "end of the century" style, and yet they use a cover that plays it safe to the extreme. Stupid.
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
So will this be a reversable cover? So we flip it around and get the real cover that Ken wanted?
 

Muffdraul

Member
I was a fan of the place holder box art they had for the game for a long time.

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Me too. What-his-name, the dude from Irrational who posts here sometimes, confirmed a while back they weren't going with that, but I was maintaining some denial that they might. I've always been a fan of the austere and understated approach. The JP FFVII box art couldn't be any more perfect IMO.

The main thing that irritates me about the final cover is that Booker's design has been changed pretty radically from what they've shown before. I also strongly dislike they insisted on turning the original distinctively old-timey coiffed & mustached Handy Man in a generic bald brute that could have come from any number of games over the last decade. One of my biggest pet peeves is when developers show their work in progress to the public, give us plenty of time to get used to it and love it, and then fucking change them in the full release. Hey, developers- how about you just keep the lid on your shit until it's final? If you decide to show something to the public, then don't fucking change it afterward.

These covers are heavily focus tested. This will probably sell more copies by drawing in the more mainstream gamer.

Then they should reserve dogshit covers like this strictly for the copies that are shipped to retail, and for online store product pages. Those of us who knew we were buying the game years before this piece of crap was even sketched should be rewarded with a better cover.
 
Me too. What-his-name, the dude from Irrational who posts here sometimes, confirmed a while back they weren't going with that, but I was maintaining some denial that they might. I've always been a fan of the austere and understated approach. The JP FFVII box art couldn't be any more perfect IMO.

The main thing that irritates me about the final cover is that Booker's design has been changed pretty radically from what they've shown before. I also strongly dislike they insisted on turning the original distinctively old-timey coiffed & mustached Handy Man in a generic bald brute that could have come from any number of games over the last decade. One of my biggest pet peeves is when developers show their work in progress to the public, give us plenty of time to get used to it and love it, and then fucking change them in the full release. Hey, developers- how about you just keep the lid on your shit until it's final? If you decide to show something to the public, then don't fucking change it afterward.

Booker is bald? isn't that him on the cover?
 

Gintoki

Member
Chris Kohler talked with Ken Levine about the cover

“I understand that some of the fans are disappointed. We expected it. I know that may be hard to hear, but let me explain the thinking.”

“We went and did a tour… around to a bunch of, like, frathouses and places like that. People who were gamers. Not people who read IGN. And [we] said, so, have you guys heard of BioShock? not a single one of them had heard of it.”

“And we live in this very special… you know, BioShock is a reasonably successful franchise, right? Our gaming world, we sometimes forget, is so important to us, but… there are plenty of products that I buy that I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about. My salad dressing. If there’s a new salad dressing coming out, I would have no idea. I use salad dressing; I don’t read Salad Dressing Weekly. I don’t care who makes it, I don’t know any of the personalities in the salad dressing business.”

“For some people, [games are] like salad dressing. Or movies, or TV shows. It was definitely a reality check for us. Games are big, and they’re expensive, I think that’s very clear. And to be successful, and to continue to make these kinds of games which frankly, of the people who make these types of games, there’s not a lot of them, and they haven’t exactly been the most successful with these types of games that have come out in the last few years. I was thrilled because I love them, and I hope that we had some small role in getting those games greenlit… But they have to be financially successful to keep getting made.”

“I looked at the cover art for BioShock 1, which I was heavily involved with and love, I adored. And I tried to step back and say, if I’m just some guy, some frat guy, I love games but don’t pay attention to them… if I saw the cover of that box, what would I think? And I would think, this is a game about a robot and a little girl. That’s what I would think. I was trying to be honest with myself. Trust me, I was heavily involved with the creation of those characters and I love them.”

“Would I buy that game if I had 60 bucks and I bought three games a year… would I even pick up the box? I went back to the box for System Shock 1, which was obviously incredibly imporatnt — that game was incredibly influential on me, System Shock 2 was the first game I ever made. I remember I picked it up… looked at it and I said, I have no idea what this game is. And I didn’t have a lot of money back then. So, back on the shelf. And I was a gamer.”

“I wanted the uninformed, the person who doesn’t read IGN… to pick up the box and say, okay, this looks kind of cool, let me turn it over. Oh, a flying city. Look at this girl, Elizabeth on the back. Look at that creature. And start to read about it, start to think about it.”

“I understand that our fan says, that’s great Ken, what’s in it for me? One, we need to be successful to make these types of games, and I think it’s important, and I think the cover is a small price for the hardcore gamer to pay. I think also when we do something for the hardcore gamer, there’s something we’re talking about and something we’re sure about. The thing we’re sure about is that we’re going to be releasing a whole set of alternate covers that you can download and print. We’re going to be working with the community to see what they’re interested in.”

“We had to make that tradeoff in terms of where we were spending our marketing dollars. By the time you get to the store, or see an ad, the BioShock fan knows about the game. The money we’re spending on PR, the conversations with games journalists — that’s for the fans. For the people who aren’t informed, that’s who the box art is for.”
 

Well, you have to admire his frankness, at least, and the fact that he's willing to discuss the issue. Although considering the demographic they're aiming for and their apparent love of multiplayer, I'm not sure this will work out for them, but we'll see.

EDIT: By the way, what's with the love for that placeholder box art? It's "different," sure, but a horrible composition: just a logo on top of some slightly blurry stock cloud image. Literally five minutes of work. There are better ways to communicate the aerial nature of the game than a random sky image (not that the current cover does a whole lot better in this regard).

EDIT 2: That cover at the top of page 9 is awesome. Much more stylistic and lovely. But frat boys can't relate to young females and song birds, so too bad!
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
He's got fratboys on the brain.

I posit the RDR cover, it's got a white guy with a gun, yet it's artistically stimulating, AND it managed to captivate those fratboys. This is not a herculean task (but it helps if you have the Rock star artists working for you)

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