nature boy
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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SOMEONE ASK HIM DETAILS OF THE BILL FFS
His engagement is showing with his health care victories clearly.
SOMEONE ASK HIM DETAILS OF THE BILL FFS
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SOMEONE ASK HIM DETAILS OF THE BILL FFS
It's the best bill. Better than Obamacare which is burning up.
aspiegamer
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lol, guy didn't even know this was actually a tax bill in disguise that coincidentally cost millions of poor people their health care. Normally I wouldn't be this savagely cruel about his lack of understanding (okay fine, that's a lie, but whatever), but the reports of him being confused since his plan is taxes after health care? Yeah, he's clueless. You'd think he'd have staffers that would at least vaguely explain legislation to him.
Gurgelhals
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It's a bot that converts EasyD's tweets into White House press releases, because tweets count as official statements by the President.
Yeah. I wonder at his mental faculties. He doesn't even seem to know basic stuff about things that should interest him.
Does he even take questions from press anywhere anymore?
Only fox and friends
SOMEONE ASK HIM DETAILS OF THE BILL FFS
"Fake news" has lost any meaning he wants it to convey. I wish I news org would say " Yes, we are fake news. The fakest of the fake. The best fake"
Plinko
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Right--that really lowers my already low expectations.
Either A) He wasn't paying any attention at all, or B) He read the bill but couldn't understand it. Either way, it's not good.
About the same.
Also, look at that number of 39% of republicans "not having heard enough" about the bill. That is incredibly high. Rural folk, or liars?
I'd say that it's people that know the bill is terrible and will hurt them, but they don't want to vote against their team. That answer lets them say they don't support it without saying it's bad
Joe Shlabotnik
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I'm pretty sure that's roughly the same number of people who had "no opinion" of the AHCA. I'd say most of those are wobbly Trump supporters. Just trying to ignore stuff they know is bad news.
skullmuffins
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Fox News viewers.
They know the bill is garbage so they literally won't talk about what it actually does.
Let's get something straight. Coming out after the fact that the bill was delayed and saying your against it and are going to make it better is fucking cheap. These spineless cowards weren't against it until it makes them look good. The whole only 5 people supported it is a sham. If McConnell held a vote you bet your ass he would have gotten a vote in the 40s
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm starting to feel as if a public option has a really good chance of being implemented in 2021 if things keep going as they have been. I still feel single-payer is a no-go due to a payroll tax and companies just pocketing extra money. That would destroy finances for millions of people. A public option, though, could be a breakthrough.
nature boy
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Someone is bored
balladofwindfishes
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Doesn't he have a healthcare bill to work on?
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
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I can't even parse this one. The guardian of Amazon?
Joe Shlabotnik
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Yes. The only Nos that matter are the ones that come out before the vote (and even then). The bill would never fail by one or two votes. There are a ton of finger-in-the-wind Senators who support it if it's going to pass and don't if it's going to fail. All this shows is how sketchy everyone felt about the bill in private.
Veritigo_X
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Did he mean the Guardian (like the newspaper) of Amazon or....? Is them not paying internet taxes the fake news? I'm having a really hard time understanding this tweet.
tedrotheredro
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Something about Jeff Bezos (Amazon CEO) owning the Washington Post. Maybe he thinks the paper helps Amazon not pay taxes?
Edit: Found an article from way back about it, here's some Trump quotes:
"He thinks I'll go after him for antitrust," Trump said at the time. "Because he's got a huge antitrust problem because he's controlling so much, Amazon is controlling so much of what they are doing.
"He's using the Washington Post, which is peanuts, he's using that for political purposes to save Amazon in terms of taxes and in terms of antitrust."
Edit: Found an article from way back about it, here's some Trump quotes:
"He thinks I'll go after him for antitrust," Trump said at the time. "Because he's got a huge antitrust problem because he's controlling so much, Amazon is controlling so much of what they are doing.
"He's using the Washington Post, which is peanuts, he's using that for political purposes to save Amazon in terms of taxes and in terms of antitrust."
BoogieWoogie
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I thought the GOP was all about not paying taxes.
The Washington Post is a highly-skilled business that has a fiduciary responsibility to its business, its family and its employees to pay no more tax than legally required. That being said, the Washington Post has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city taxes, state taxes, employee taxes and federal taxes, along with very substantial charitable contributions.
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smokeandmirrors
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That's how I parsed it.
But he's gone after the nytimes and Washington post this morning as fake news. Building to discredit a report today?
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Why? That makes them smart!
Greigor The Fellhand
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the venezeula stuff stinks of Turkey 2.0.
the guy in the video is/might be an actor that was interviewed for a movie a little while ago. I'll try to find the vid links
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pulled from a reddit comment
First of all because this man 'Oscar Perez', was an actor and producer for a Venezuelan Movie called "Muerte Suspendida", which was funded by the CICPC, the national intelligence agency, which is obviously controlled by the government. The guy apparently is also an actual CICPC officer, but I do still suggest people to take this video with a very BIG grain of salt, I don't want to sound like a nut-job who believes in conspiracy theories, but this is just way too odd. Some people are already calling this a bluff, and an staged self-coup so the government can justify any nasty thing they have in plans
Here are a couple videos of him being interviewed about the movie, all of them are in spanish obviously, but you can tell that it's the same person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyDP0OqR7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPjAFwPW0I
(@3:25) https://youtu.be/NGSo0oFMwAQ?t=3m25s
the guy in the video is/might be an actor that was interviewed for a movie a little while ago. I'll try to find the vid links
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pulled from a reddit comment
First of all because this man 'Oscar Perez', was an actor and producer for a Venezuelan Movie called "Muerte Suspendida", which was funded by the CICPC, the national intelligence agency, which is obviously controlled by the government. The guy apparently is also an actual CICPC officer, but I do still suggest people to take this video with a very BIG grain of salt, I don't want to sound like a nut-job who believes in conspiracy theories, but this is just way too odd. Some people are already calling this a bluff, and an staged self-coup so the government can justify any nasty thing they have in plans
Here are a couple videos of him being interviewed about the movie, all of them are in spanish obviously, but you can tell that it's the same person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyDP0OqR7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPjAFwPW0I
(@3:25) https://youtu.be/NGSo0oFMwAQ?t=3m25s
balladofwindfishes
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Trump believes Bezos bought the Washington Post to be a propaganda machine for Amazon and Hillary Clinton.
He's believed this since Bezos bought it.
He's believed this since Bezos bought it.
It is crazy what fucking lemmings GOP Senators have ended up being. Universal opposition to Obama on legislation which should have been getting 70+votes. Willingness to say nice things about Garland behind McConnel's back but still not lift a finger to seat him. Knowing that their health care efforts are dangerous nonsense but still playing along until it's clear others have made it safe. Just, really pathetic stuff.
Public option and perhaps also universal catastrophic coverage (aka the Kerry plan) would be really good next steps. Both would dramatically help the system but neither would demand the same level gut punch as a 50% spike in the most regressive tax in the country.
A Serious Man
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I guess he's salty WaPo made him take his fake Time covers down.
BoogieWoogie
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Because at the end of the day, all of the decisions they make never fucking touch them. They're shielded from all the garbage they do. It's so fucking infuriating.
Fake or not, whatever happens to Venezuela the likelihood of a competent response by this administration is very low.
We're currently in a situation where we have to say ending up like Turkey might still be better than ending up like Syria.
I just want to know what "internet taxes" are.
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maybe the sales tax?
Widdle Puppy
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I think turtle man is only good at obstructing and finding clever ways to not do his job. I wonder, if health care fails a second time in the Senate will they try to kick turtle man out?
Ignatz Mouse
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Here's a game-- find a reference to "virtue signalling" that isn't dismissing the actual point.
Poodlestrike
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The hopes for McConnell to be ousted are premature, I feel. This was undoubtedly a disaster, but unlike Ryan in the House I dont think the Man-Turtle is in nay real danger from it. He's got a longer record of "successes," to use the Republican perspective, which makes it harder for Rs to justify tossing him. Also, this Healthcare thing isn't something he's pegged his personal worth on like Ryan did,so it'd not as much of a blow to him as an individual.
nature boy
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No, he's as safe as you can be.
BoogieWoogie
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Tillerson's pissed as Trump:
Trump just screaming FAKE NEWS without even any extra to it (like, WHY are they fake news?!) at anyone he doesn't like has gotten extremely tiresome.
What's this in reference to?
Tillerson's pissed as Trump:
What's this in reference to?
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