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May 20 - Draw Mohammed Day
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This is America son we do what we like. USA USA
ElectricBlue187
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Baki said:
why do they write 'G' like that? It's fucking heretical
Baki said:
Well other religions get the piss taken out of them all the time but no one gets all riled up about it. The only reason this has happened is because some Islamic groups instead of just getting over it start going "We are going to kill you! You'll be beheaded with filthy scum!! We'll bomb you all!!" which then make some people turn around and go "Fuck you, here is a picture of Mohammed.".
PjotrStroganov
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Hah, nice one
Maleficence
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Krev said:
I think it's more Idiocy begets Idiocy. But +1 anyway
Seriously, this is really stupid and childish, respond to the extremist idiots of a religion by dedicating a day to actively trying to offend many completely innocent people.
Baki
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Darklord said:
Which shouldn't happen. And they have every right to protest it if they wanted to. And to be honest, a "good" person would never go out of their way to insult a group of people just for their own amusement. Its just an asshole thing to do.
Death threats are a bit much, I agree. But why antagonise these people in the first place. Nothing good comes out of it and you just end up upsetting a bunch of people who weren'r involved at all.
Which upsets/insults millions of people around the world. I'm sure you wouldn't hold the same opinion if people went out of their way to mock the holocaust, black slavery etc..
eznark said:
How about the billion people who weren't threatining to murder you? I can't believe you can't look past the handful of people to see that this is insulting to more than just them?
PumpkinPie
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The quote in the OP can't make up it's mind whether it's Mohammed or Muhammed. Noobs.
Keyser Soze
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For some reason I am imagining Bob Ross painting picture of Mohammed... which is amazing
Maleficence said:
Any "innocent people" that feel mortally offended by someone else not having the same world view as them deserves everything they get.
If I say I'm offended when someone else claims not to like Star Wars do I get to have that 90 minute review of Phantom Menace banned?
Baki said:
Protest and saying they are going to behead you are two different things. And by your views every single comedian in history is not a good person and an arsehole.
They bomb and kill innocent people if they are antagonized or not so fuck'em.
Too bad. Harden the fuck up or shut up. Simple as that. The world is full of people/shows/movies/books/ect that have offensive comedy in it that target everyone and everything from all kinds of religion, race, sexuality, political views, and yeah probably things like the holocaust and black slavery too. The only reason this has even happened is because of Islam extremists and you know what? The fact they are against it makes people want to do it a thousand times over. If they just shut the fuck up this wouldn't have even happened. A normal islamic person wouldn't be upset to that extent over fucking south park.
"How about the billion people who weren't threatining to murder you? I can't believe you can't look past the handful of people to see that this is insulting to more than just them?"
Other religions/politicians/actors/etc. are mocked on daily bases and feelings are hurted and yet the world goes around. People of faith should just ignore all these drawings and let God/Allah/Buddha to deal with the blasphemers.
Other religions/politicians/actors/etc. are mocked on daily bases and feelings are hurted and yet the world goes around. People of faith should just ignore all these drawings and let God/Allah/Buddha to deal with the blasphemers.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I don't usually go about my days trying to pick fights with extremists. I do, however think this is a valid thing to do. Sure, it's not very sensitive and it's not very tactful but this situation with religious extremists running amok needs to be put down and ridicule is better than any use of violence. It is disrespectful as hell, but atleast it's not violence.
womfalcs3
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Shows the weak mentality of those who have no respect for others' beliefs. Thanks for displaying that OP.
Because a couple of people send death threats, it becomes open season. A few people out of 1.7 BILLION MUSLIMS in the world.
As a Muslim, though, I'll show the tolerance that they cannot exhibit. Go ahead, you have the right to behave this way, even if I think it's childish and evidence of a weak mentality.
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Oh, didn't US politicians receive death threats for their views? How logical would it be to paint the entire country and its citizens as violent buffoons because of that?
Because a couple of people send death threats, it becomes open season. A few people out of 1.7 BILLION MUSLIMS in the world.
As a Muslim, though, I'll show the tolerance that they cannot exhibit. Go ahead, you have the right to behave this way, even if I think it's childish and evidence of a weak mentality.
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Oh, didn't US politicians receive death threats for their views? How logical would it be to paint the entire country and its citizens as violent buffoons because of that?
Maleficence
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I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, they should, freedom of speech and all that. But they look like assholes doing it, it's a big dick move, there are more intelligent and less confrontational ways to make your point, promote freedom of speech and stick it to the extremists.
This is not the kind of thing I would expect intelligent people to be involved in, and to me deserves ridicule in a similar way than the idiots who protest against freedom.
This is not the kind of thing I would expect intelligent people to be involved in, and to me deserves ridicule in a similar way than the idiots who protest against freedom.
I don't hate Islam, but I hate censorship. I think I'll join.
Also, here in France, a few right-wing douchebag politicians went nuts over a picture that shows someone wiping hiw ass with the national flag. They want a law against that. So if someone created a "soil a national symbol day", I'd gladly join aswell.
Also, here in France, a few right-wing douchebag politicians went nuts over a picture that shows someone wiping hiw ass with the national flag. They want a law against that. So if someone created a "soil a national symbol day", I'd gladly join aswell.
SimpleDesign
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I don't want to see any pictures of Mohammad consummating his marriage with little Aisha.
Baki
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Fuzz Rez said:
Or...People should just stop mocking other people? Crazy idea, I know. At the very least people should acknowledge its an asshole thing to do.
Furret said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no such thing as true "freedom of speech" and for good reason.
If we had "freedom of speech" people would be free to disclose government secrets without reprecussions. People would be free to slander publically (but they can't) etc...
My point, its nice to not offend people unneccessarily. I'm surprised you don't agree with me.
Just like its nice not to call people derogatory terms like "nigger" and "cracker" etc..
Hot Coldman
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On one hand: religious tolerance.
On the other: they censored South Park.
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LET'S DO THIS PEOPLE
On the other: they censored South Park.
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LET'S DO THIS PEOPLE
Just kidding, I can't draw for shit anyway :lol
Instead of losing their cool...
I honestly believe that Muslims should start making awesome drawings of Muhammad or make a biopic starring Viggo Mortensen as Muhammad and Morgan Freeman as Gabriel.
Take the fun away, much like African Americans use the N-word. Plus, it'll get some people interested ( efficient propaganda!).
I honestly believe that Muslims should start making awesome drawings of Muhammad or make a biopic starring Viggo Mortensen as Muhammad and Morgan Freeman as Gabriel.
Take the fun away, much like African Americans use the N-word. Plus, it'll get some people interested ( efficient propaganda!).
This is less about offending people and more about retaliation toward an extremist group. Comedy Central giving in to thir death threats sends the message that it works. People getting together todo this shows defiance.
If Jews or blacks sent death threats over south park mocking slavery or the holocaust and comedy central censored it, I'd support a similar situation.
If Jews or blacks sent death threats over south park mocking slavery or the holocaust and comedy central censored it, I'd support a similar situation.
womfalcs3
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Blutonium said:
You said, "I'm not religious so I can draw whatever I want whenever the fuck I want to, yay!".
Given the context of this thread, whatever you want means mocking the beliefs and religious figures that other people hold highly. It's not about drawing a person, it's about how you draw them.
You referred to the fact you're not religious as the justification. If that's why you feel you can do this, then I'm glad I'm religious.
Maleficence
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Kenak said:
But instead of retaliating against the fanatics, you're retaliating against anyone who could posible be offended by these depictions of the prophet. It's overhanded, unnecessary, and stupid. It's literally the retaliation of a 6 year old mind.
Baki said:
Again you advance the idea that being offended is some awful crime or personal injury.
Frankly I'm offended every time some shiftless shop assistant fails to refer to me as "sir", but I take it in my stride because it's not important.
And that is an example is from a cultural norm that is (or used to be) accepted by everyone.
Having to kowtow to someone else's insistence that their favourite fairy tale is real - with the implied threat that they'll kill me if I don't - is not acceptable in the 21st century.
Baki said:
I don't think it is illegal but it is an political/social suicide to deny holocaust. Then again there are some weird laws in some countries so I wouldn't be surprised if mocking the holocaust is illegal some where in the world.
edit: Holocaust denial is illegal in a number of European countries: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia and Switzerland. :lol
Bboy AJ
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I can't wait for June 20th when I'll hang a black mannequin from a tree. Or July 20th when I'll carve a swastika into a gas chamber where I'll place a Jewish doll eating a ham sandwich. Hey, if they're offended by that, freedom of speech!
This is so stupid. Childish and immature. You don't have to go out of your way to offend people. Death threats are also ridiculous and immature but this attitude is in no way helping.
This is so stupid. Childish and immature. You don't have to go out of your way to offend people. Death threats are also ridiculous and immature but this attitude is in no way helping.
womfalcs3
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Maleficence said:
I would be supportive if they would focus their attacks on the fanatics who threaten death, but no. They're going after Islam and the general Muslim population. They think it's funny, just as a bully in 6th grade would.
The way Jon Stewart handled it was nice. He eventually went after those who threaten violence, not the entire population.
Witchfinder General
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While I respect the views some have put forth for not drawing no one, and I repeat no one has the right to dictate what an artists can or can't draw.
No one.
No one.
Yep. They are the same thing as a drawing of a person. No difference at all.Bboy AJ said:
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I don't think most people would be so upset if it was normal protests. It is that fact that death threats are being used to impose censorship that is so hateful, and deserves to be opposed at every level.Baki said:
Maleficence
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Witchfinder General said:
Again, not trying to dictate what they draw, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve ridicule for it.
If instead of issuing death threats, they proteted and comedy cereal complied? I'd have absoultely no qualms with the Islamic protestor and would be against this.Baki said:
People make death threats to put an end to something. Populace retaliates in defiance of death threats. That's the issue at hand.
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