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Sonic Colors - E3 Trailer + screens
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Personally I greatly enjoyed Unleashed. At the time both of the Adventure games are cool, but nowadays you realize how glitchy they are and how bad the story and voice acting is. Adventure games are miles above Heroes or 2006, but still I feel they're pretty bad (despite some cool ideas like Chao). Now Unleashed, I never ran into glitches, and highly enjoyed it more as a successor to Sonic R's formula with bigger and more levels. I know that wasn't the intent of the developers but that was exactly the feeling I got from playing it.
Sonic Colors looks cool too, but I hope it doesn't have that same flaw Unleashed has: It still doesn't feel like a real platforming game, despite plenty of good design choices.
Sonic Colors looks cool too, but I hope it doesn't have that same flaw Unleashed has: It still doesn't feel like a real platforming game, despite plenty of good design choices.
GitarooMan
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I think Sonic Unleashed (360/PS3) blows Sonic Heroes out of the water.ILikeFeet said:
The Awkward Wizard
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November 16th? That's the same day the U.S. gets LittleBigPlanet 2!!
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Well, Media Molecule had a good run
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Well, Media Molecule had a good run
I'm getting all three, and then making a momentum based Sonic game in LBP2
Looks basically like Unleashed with some gimmicks added and the warehog removed. Graphics look nice for Wii. Looks a lot like Unleashed, which was one of the only two 3D Sonic games I actually kind of liked, but knowing Sonic Team they'll probably find some way to fuck it up.
Don't know if want.
Don't know if want.
Hell, I like it. It seems like the big "gimmick" everyone's waiting for is just the Wisps, which are integrated into the good parts of 3D Sonic. I'm looking forward to it.
Eh, it's a toss up.Gilgamesh said:
It looks like a pretty fun Sonic 3d title to me. The Unleashed Sonic daytime stages (HD version) worked well enough for Sonic in a 3d game. Personally I think the behind the back speed sections were well done, as long as everything isnt automated (loops and so on).
An even mix of 2d platforming and 3d behind the back Sonic 2/3d blast bonus stage style gameplay works for 3D Sonic titles.
Now whether or not it plays well, or is actually fun is another story. Also I need to hear some in game tracks :lol
An even mix of 2d platforming and 3d behind the back Sonic 2/3d blast bonus stage style gameplay works for 3D Sonic titles.
Now whether or not it plays well, or is actually fun is another story. Also I need to hear some in game tracks :lol
pretty good trailer indeed but actually there is nothing new from the E3 Demo other than some cool additions like the driller robots at 00:40
but now we can confirm according to the boxart that there would be 8 wisps on Wii 6 on DS , 4 of them in both games 4 exclusive to the Wii and 2 for the DS , that's a total of 10 wisps...
but now we can confirm according to the boxart that there would be 8 wisps on Wii 6 on DS , 4 of them in both games 4 exclusive to the Wii and 2 for the DS , that's a total of 10 wisps...
Azure Dream
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I hope after this game, they rethink the way they include and use certain set pieces over and over, like the tri-rails, the rainbow ring launchers, etc. Every time they make a new Sonic game, you don't see much of them at first, then once they get closer to launch and show a real trailer like this, there they are, all over again. It's like they're trying to force them to be iconic as the question blocks in SMB.
I wouldn't be surprised to see strings of rings you have to light dash through eventually. Maybe they'll make that a Wisp power, though. But even if the layout is different and better, I'm a little tired of playing Sonic games where the levels segments are strung together with the same set pieces since Heroes (and to a degree, SA2). It may sound like a strange complaint, but it makes it harder to think of this as a new and different Sonic game.
I wouldn't be surprised to see strings of rings you have to light dash through eventually. Maybe they'll make that a Wisp power, though. But even if the layout is different and better, I'm a little tired of playing Sonic games where the levels segments are strung together with the same set pieces since Heroes (and to a degree, SA2). It may sound like a strange complaint, but it makes it harder to think of this as a new and different Sonic game.
Yoshi
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Imo "new and different" isn't needed. Sonic's main problem was being unfocused. Sonic's gameplay was intact in all but two games (Sonic 2006, Sonic & the Black Knight), additional gameplay styles were the bad factor. Chaos, overworlds, Knuckles' gameplay, Big, character changing, shooting, Werehog, RPG-elements, those were the problems the series had to face. So having a focused game that plays on the strengths and doesn't include a new form of bullshit is a great progress.
Kulock said:
That's not a strange complaint at all. Nearly everyone loves the Mario Galaxy games, and a large reason as to why that is the case is that the levels have a high degree of variety. Almost every level throws in a new mechanic, concept, or type of challenge that makes things fresh and fun. If every level had the consisted of the same five things (but rearranged!), the games would lose most of their luster.
This game was playable at Summer of Sonic, and a Sonic Stadium member posted these impressions:
A staff member of Sonic Stadium responded to the part where he said that there weren't any multiple routes in the first two levels:
A staff member of Sonic Stadium responded to the part where he said that there weren't any multiple routes in the first two levels:
Ooooh no, this aint true. There are at least two SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT multiple paths in every level in the Colors demo, and Iizuka himself says that there are several. It's not only way better then the small variances in SA, but it's much more substantial then the mild variances in Sonic Unleashed.
Thing is, you gotta look for them. One path I distinctly remember was underground in the Sweet Mountain level.
People who are saying it was "just like Unleashed"forgive me, because I sat Unleashed out, but do they mean the Wii version, possibly? Because I downloaded the 360 demo and hated it, but I really got into Colors.
Also, yes, there were definitely multiple ways to go through the stages. I did several myself. I particularly liked defeating the carnival boss with the laser powerup...
Also, yes, there were definitely multiple ways to go through the stages. I did several myself. I particularly liked defeating the carnival boss with the laser powerup...
zigg said:
They mean the 360/PS3 version. Colors is supposed to be the "best" parts of Unleashed refined.
So basically like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey32XHstfko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE6zydPGbNQ
But hopefully with less whoo and more 2d sections (3d sections are nicely done, but shouldnt take up most of the level, should be an even mix, and no qte). And of course no werehog beat em up style sections.
My only issue with 3d Sonic Unleashed style is that there are usually boost pads in every loop, even though you can gain enough speed on your own. Just like Sonic 2 added the spin dash so you wouldn't need to go back and get a running start, since 3d Sonic focuses on the boost meter now, you should be able to pick up speed without dash pad assistance 24/7.
Hero of Legend
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Seda said:
It could just be the Curly White Wisp?
Knux-Future
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Yoshi said:
Birdo and Wart?
ThatObviousUser
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MAtgS said:
Pokemon Emerald?
Some of the Kirby games too, I think.
Not all games introduce new playable characters with brand new play mechanics. Sonic games have a consistant track record for doing exactly that and having the new playable characters suck the fun out of the game. Why is this not a valid complaint? It is not like someone is bitching that they've added a new enemy type or a Sonic reskin.MAtgS said:
The Technomancer
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Any word on if drifting is back in the game? If the 3D sections are just running forward, that's going to be very dull, and drifting was the best new mechanical aspect of Unleashed. Made steering around turns ten times easier.TimmiT said:
The Technomancer
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Awesome. Well, okay, tilting the nunchuck sucks, but it was also mentioned above that it supports GC controllers, which I will take as confirmation that it also supports CC.TimmiT said:
Awesome!
The_Technomancer said:
Drifting's definitely included, you can see it in the latest trailer. Around 00:56 or so.
EDIT:
Beaten, it would seem!
Hero of Legend
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NTom64 said:
Say Tom, are the odds looking good of a NTom64 + FTA HellFireComms Sonic Colors commentary?
Hopefully it's sooner than later.
BTW, why was the Secret Rings commentary canceled? I think it only went up until Part 17 was it?
Hero of Legend said:Say Tom, are the odds looking good of a NTom64 + FTA HellFireComms Sonic Colors commentary?
Hopefully it's sooner than later.
BTW, why was the Secret Rings commentary canceled? I think it only went up until Part 17 was it?
Yes, but Sonic CD/3+K first. We're redoing Secret Rings, and it was cancelled due to recording issues.
The Technomancer
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By the way, was there ever really a consensus on whether the Wii or PS360 had better daylight stages? Or even an idea of how they played differently? I never played the HD version.
Hero of Legend
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NTom64 said:
Ah, I see.
Hope everything goes well, love your stuff.
The_Technomancer said:
I myself don't remember what reviews said, but in my eyes from playing Wii and watching HD playthroughs, the HD version's WAY too fast, and the Wii version's are wider seemingly.
But like I said, I don't recall if critics preferred the Wii or HD day stages, maybe the fact the Wii version was more commonly the higher-rated one points to the Wii day stages actually being preferred? Wasn't the Werehog seen as worse on Wii? Particularly due to the controls (which I myself found to be okay, and I only used the Wiimote + Nunchuck setup)?
ThatObviousUser
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Ugh I had forgotten about those awful title controls for drifting. :/
The_Technomancer said:
I don't know about the consensus, but I felt WiiS2 had the better night stages (not that you asked) and PS360 had the better day stages by far (though the Robotnikland stage in the WiiS2 version is extremely good).
I remember the day stages in the WiiS2 stages to generally feel like long stretches of nothing, while there was more (though still just a mild amount) of platforming in the PS360 version and the bits that were empty roads felt more exciting to me.
BlazeHedgehog
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ILikeFeet said:
The Wii/PS2 version of Sonic Unleashed has its fans. But yeah, what I've seen of it, levels in the SD version of the game just seem really... empty? They also seem to focus more on running without stopping to do anything else. The HD version does a lot, too, but I dunno:
Dragon Road (Wii)
Dragon Road (360)
The Wii version is probably not awful, but if you have to pick one...
new interview with Takashi Iizuka, the man you all know and love
http://www.game.co.uk/Games/Wii/Platform/Sonic-Colours/~r349876/?s=sonic+colours
also, be sure to follow the HONEST AND TRUE Iizuka on twitter!
http://twitter.com/IizukaTakashi (it's a parody, but it's great)
http://www.game.co.uk/Games/Wii/Platform/Sonic-Colours/~r349876/?s=sonic+colours
also, be sure to follow the HONEST AND TRUE Iizuka on twitter!
http://twitter.com/IizukaTakashi (it's a parody, but it's great)
Davey Cakes
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Two different worlds for Sonic games. Yeah, and one of them should never be revisited again.