V_Ben
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Capcom's ludicrous PSN DRM use is rearing its ugly head again in BCR2. Whoopee! #1

Shameless quote from the Bionic Commando: Rearmed 2 thread;

Originally Posted by LegatoB:
Hey guys, the store text for Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 on the PSN says that "You must log into the Playstation Network each time to play this game." That sure sounds like the way they did the online-only Final Fight PSN, too.

I'll be passing on this one on principle. I never would've bought Final Fight if they'd told me upfront, and this time they did.
GO CAPCOM. Honestly, bloody stupid. I don't want to have my internet on whenever I want to play a game. Urgh. At least they're telling people they're being nitwits upfront though.
ezekial45
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(02-01-2011, 11:56 PM)

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So what happens if you get disconnected during play?
DMPrince
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(02-01-2011, 11:57 PM)

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lol. now we can add it to the list.
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(02-01-2011, 11:59 PM)

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#4

It's ridiculous, but so is five users to a purchase.
godhandiscen
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(02-01-2011, 11:59 PM)

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#5

This happens because of game sharing on the PS3 right?
Wario64
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(02-02-2011, 12:01 AM)

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lol Capcom lol.

At least they put it in their store description this time. They didn't do that for Final Fight until weeks later
Last edited by Wario64; 02-02-2011 at 12:04 AM.
MoFuzz
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h3ro
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(02-02-2011, 12:04 AM)

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So you can't play the game if your connection is out? Even if it's on the original machine that downloaded the game?
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(02-02-2011, 12:05 AM)

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lol

I was right.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419893

The next step is serial keys.

Then somebody will write a virus for PS3.
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(02-02-2011, 12:05 AM)

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#10

That's ridiculous
Argyle
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#11

This just went from must purchase to no purchase on this news, thanks for the heads up!
Wario64
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#12

Originally Posted by h3ro:
So you can't play the game if your connection is out? Even if it's on the original machine that downloaded the game?
Can't play the game if you're not connected to PSN. If you lose connection during gameplay, I believe you'll still be able to play, but you need to be connected to PSN to launch it.

So if your connection is dead, can't play. If PSN is down, can't play.
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Originally Posted by godhandiscen:
This happens because of game sharing on the PS3 right?
no, game doesnt have to allow for sharing.
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What a downright ignorant thing to do to a game.
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(02-02-2011, 12:08 AM)

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I'm out then. Too bad because I really want it.
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(02-02-2011, 12:09 AM)

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Originally Posted by spwolf:
no, game doesnt have to allow for sharing.
What is Capcom's excuse then?
wsippel
(02-02-2011, 12:09 AM)
#17

Originally Posted by spwolf:
no, game doesnt have to allow for sharing.
People don't read licenses, though. Most people simply assume that you're free to share anything on PSN, even though the actual EULA clearly states that you're never allowed to share anything unless the license says otherwise. And I'm personally not aware of a single game that actually allows game sharing.
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This is one reason why I haven't bought anY Capcom game after that ridiculous Final Fight crap. Sorry, Capcom for I love BC:R but can't support this.
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Ug - was going to treat my PS3 to this instead of my 360 getting all the love... Not anymore Sony, not anymore. Hmph!
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#20

Won't buy unless they change their drm.
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#21

Oh boy, of all the ways you can mimic PC gaming, this is not the right one.

And this is just the beginning.
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(02-02-2011, 12:12 AM)

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No sale, I often play my ps3 offline when I don't want to be bothered or while at friends houses.
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(02-02-2011, 12:13 AM)

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#23

Is this similar to the XBLA version?
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(02-02-2011, 12:13 AM)

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Originally Posted by wsippel:
And I'm personally not aware of a single game that actually allows game sharing.
wtf, most of them do. almost every game that comes out on psn can be shared.
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(02-02-2011, 12:14 AM)

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Originally Posted by wsippel:
People don't read licenses, though. Most people simply assume that you're free to share anything on PSN, even though the actual EULA clearly states that you're never allowed to share anything unless the license says otherwise. And I'm personally not aware of a single game that actually allows game sharing.

I think he means that developers have the option to not allow sharing at all with their games.

Was going to buy, now I'm not.
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(02-02-2011, 12:15 AM)

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Fuck off Capcom

Was gonna buy this, can shove it up their collective arse now.
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#27

Way to drive potential costumers away, Capcom.

Assholes.
wsippel
(02-02-2011, 12:17 AM)
#28

Originally Posted by akachan ningen:
wtf, most of them do. almost every game that comes out on psn can be shared.
They can be shared. Doesn't mean the license allows it.
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Originally Posted by Foffy:
Is this similar to the XBLA version?
I don't think any XBLA game needs an internet connection to at least run.

Originally Posted by wsippel:
They can be shared. Doesn't mean the license allows it.
That's messed up.
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(02-02-2011, 12:18 AM)

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Maybe if console gamers actually bought their games, they wouldn't get burdened with such intrusive DRM. Sorry, but that's just the way things are going nowadays folks, with rampant piracy and everything.

Take it easy, I'm kidding FFS.
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(02-02-2011, 12:19 AM)

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#31

You lose Capcom, you lose.
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I don't really see the big deal. Then again I have never felt "put out" by any companies use of DRM.
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Lousy DRM. Another pass on this game. Tough luck Capcom.
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#34

When will these companies learn screwing customers with lame DRM never works?

Bomb away now, BCR2. You don't deserve any sales.
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Don't you guys just love DRM =\
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#36

Originally Posted by soldat7:
I don't think any XBLA game needs an internet connection to at least run.
Not actual XBLA games, but all the indie games do for some reason.
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#37

BCR2:
No online co-op...





Requires you to be online.
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#38

definitely going 360 for this, this drm is rediculous.
V_Ben
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(02-02-2011, 12:25 AM)

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#39

Originally Posted by MiniBossBattle:
BCR2:
No online co-op...





Requires you to be online.
Capcom. When you think they might win, they lose.
wsippel
(02-02-2011, 12:27 AM)
#40

Originally Posted by soldat7:
That's messed up.
Is it? I could share audio CDs, or DVDs - basically anything. But that doesn't mean I'm allowed to do so. The default PSN license states that you buy stuff for my own, personal use. That's as clear as it gets.
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hah money is staying in my account. Pity cos i liked the first rearmed a lot.
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Originally Posted by Router:
I don't really see the big deal. Then again I have never felt "put out" by any companies use of DRM.
Internet goes down. You can't play game on hard drive.


This makes sense to you.
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(02-02-2011, 12:28 AM)

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This better not catch on in the PlayStation Store. Being able to play all of my downloaded games whether or not I am online has led me to buy more games on PSN lately than XBLA. Too many times I have found myself locked out of most of my games on XBLA just because the internet was down.

PSN's setup with this issue is vastly superior to XBLA and I want it to stay that way.
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Originally Posted by The Crimson Kid:
This better not catch on in the PlayStation Store. Being able to play all of my downloaded games whether or not I am online has led me to buy more games on PSN lately than XBLA. Too many times I have found myself locked out of most of my games on XBLA just because the internet was down.

PSN's setup with this issue is vastly superior to XBLA and I want it to stay that way.
What ?
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Originally Posted by The Crimson Kid:
This better not catch on in the PlayStation Store. Being able to play all of my downloaded games whether or not I am online has led me to buy more games on PSN lately than XBLA. Too many times I have found myself locked out of most of my games on XBLA just because the internet was down.

PSN's setup with this issue is vastly superior to XBLA and I want it to stay that way.
You need to transfer your licenses on your new Xbox 360. It's somewhere on xbox.com
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Originally Posted by MoFuzz:
This would be a lot funnier with the "hey" thrown in.
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Getting the 360 version then. Plus I have more HDD space on that anyways.
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#48

Originally Posted by DiscoJer:
Not actual XBLA games, but all the indie games do for some reason.
Indie Game are not rated by ESRB/PEGI/Others so to bypass it MS requires you to be online to play.
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Will wait on sale on 360 version then. Thanks for the heads up.

It amazes me that instead of using a method simliar to the "you can't use it on another device within 24 hours of using it on another" rule they implemented on things like the Uncharted 2 beta. At least that shit doesn't fuck with people who aren't gamesharing it. In fact, gameshare groups would probably stay away from it due to the possible annoyance of going to start it up and being told to fuck off for 24 hours because it was played on another ps3. If you want to use some sort of DRM, that's probably the best middle ground between the two extremes, at least that I've seen implemented on PSN.
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Originally Posted by godhandiscen:
What is Capcom's excuse then?
piracy I'd guess


I don't know what's feasible on the PS3 now but Capcom seems to want that people keep paying for playing that game in the near future.